Jemorie

The , like the , need cars with electronic exterior side signage for obvious reasons.

Far Rockaway or Lefferts Blvd? Also no R46 on the ?

So in other words, most or all of the R160s currently at Jamaica will head back to CI once the R211s get here? Do you guys realize how much time and money spent on this swap thing would be wasted then? I swear in all honestly this current ongoing car fleet swap between JAM and CI is sorta a joke for this very reason then, especially since CBTC on Queens Blvd will not be fully online till at most 5 years later as we already saw previously with Canarise CBTC and Flushing CBTC. At least the R62As on the will stay there for a while until sometime in the 2030s. Not saying that the can't get the R211s though.

Yes, they still do. They never replaced the signs as of yet. The Far Rockaway Branch ones are regular. They say to 207th Street, although they don’t clarify that the train goes express during the daytime and local during the night-time.

Lmao don't get too excited though.

Yeah, but they stopped having those Rock Park s end at 59th in the AM Rush (and start at 59th in the PM Rush) about 8 years ago though (last time was 2012). Combined with more modern technology as time went on, including electronics, countdown clocks, and the MTA Subway Time app. In the AM Rush, they head straight up to 207th Street and remain in service in general the rest of the day.

The only thing I don't really like is that either way, the is still half-ass and not everyone will be familiar with where the first and last cars of the train will stop. That itself will be a problem. Summers of 2011 and 2012 was superior, except they took some R42s from ENY and some R46s from Jamaica for obvious reasons, shorting the spare ratios for the and . If the R32 fleet was slightly more than just 222, no such borrowing from other barns would have been needed, let alone, car swapping that took place all those summers in question. always be doing too much.

They don't always have to do that though. Sometimes, the 6 eight-car trains of R42s (before they were retired) had ran all day. Not all 6 eight-car trainsets though. Just only like half of them or just one. Same on weekends. The only exception was during the Summers of 2013 and 2014, and from Summer 2015 through early 2019, where they along with the R32s, would operate at any given time since they were the vast majority of the fleet at the time. If the remaining R32s stay on the , they would be treated like how the 50 R42s were (before Summer 2013 and after early 2019).

No they don’t. Check the official timetable. 🙄

No they will not. They will most likely head to the , but they won't run the entire day unless the dispatcher wants them to. Train requirements and headways are lower off-peak than during actual peak.

Any updates to the 2 10-car R179 trains btw, guys?

Can't increase service without slightly reducing service due to the current aging signals between Hoyt and Canal that are eventually going to need replacing anyway, or to accommodate work that is taking place under traffic. Or both. A general order that requires all three different lines to share a track anywhere along their routes also prevents service increases, until CBTC.

He obviously does not ride the on a daily basis to know how crowded trains get during the morning rush hour out of Brooklyn with 10-minute headways, let alone, how many total cars are in the overall NYC Subway fleet to calculate on Google one by one like how former transit employee Joe Korman did in his own website which has now been outdated (while still accurate) since his death. He knows nothing of what he is talking about. That's why he typically commented the way he did. It's not even funny. It's just reeking of ignorance.

Yeah, don't mind him. I expected that snide response from someone like him from the beginning. At least @VIP, @Mysterious2train, @MysteriousBtrain, and @Coney Island Av seem to understand where we're coming from. They don't have to keep all 222 R32s as we already know the original plan was to keep at most 110-130. As long as not all cars are retired before the R211s, the spare ratio should be good.

You can't even do simple mathematics on Google and yet you're here typically talking all that crap. Nobody here is making any wild scenarios to keep the R32s in service forever, only till the R211s.

You do realize that, as @Mysterious2train pointed out, the governor influenced the into making the shutdown from full-time to half-ass, right? Among other things you fail to realize and understand... Yeah no. Keep it simple. headways stay 10 minutes off-peak including on weekends to equalize with those on the , R32s stay at 207th Street (reactivate all 222 cars unless they already stripped a handful of them), make them full-length 600 feet to run on the alongside R46s and the 13 ten-car trainsets of R179s, put all the four-car R179s in the east since they won't be equipped for CBTC for the time being anyway. Most of the four-car R160s and all 212 R143s in the east are already equipped with CBTC for respective use on Queens Blvd and Canarsie.

Even after months of station rehabs? Wow.

So a total of 26 10-car trainsets (or 260 cars) have the Siemens motor propulsion system? Sweet. The one that’s still running on the should head back to Coney Island for now, if not permanent. Always hated the Alstom motor propulsion system. I’ve always been under the impression as to why Kawasaki didn’t include the Siemens motor propulsion system on all of their 66 10-car trainsets (or 660 cars) of their R160Bs.

Nah chill. Nah. Anything but the please.

The is boring to railfan with the R32s on IMO. Same with the if they’re only going as far as Lefferts.

They gonna be severely short on cars if retirement is in March as currently projected. Car shortage also means reduced service. They need to wait till the R211s. They don’t have a choice. Governor Cuomo is a complete fool and a glory ass hog. I hate him. He is the reason why the continues to fail the public to this very day. The is also partly at fault too since they should have ordered more R160s back then and included the R44s in their retirement list. The R44s were lemons long before they were retired earlier than planned.

I guess.

Oh okay. Knowing how cheap and half-ass the agency can be, I thought this UWB thingy would have been the way to go so that they can save money and no such car fleet swapping between CI and Jamaica (or between Pelham and Flushing) would have ever taken place. I don’t think UWB is a bad thing though. I actually like it.

Whatever. But I doubt it’s because “they didn’t build it”. While the original plan (in this case, the BMT) was for one track to run under West 59th Street and the other on West 60th Street (before they changed it to both tracks running on West 60th Street instead), I still wonder that the thought process of the BMT for two tracks (and two island platforms) on West 60th Street and West 59th Street respectively (even before deciding to build them) could have been there. That’s all I was asking. That underpass at the 59th Street area is...trash.

The is always inconsistent with car assignments anyway. I have personally been under the impression that Lex deserved CBTC more as well as the other IRT trunk lines that were already 100% percent NTTs prior to the / car swap and the R188 contract. The spent a whole ton of money and time spent on retrofitting the most of the R142As to R188s, even though they could have done that years before so that the R62As didn't need to be sent over from the to the to retire the Redbirds on the latter. I also read a recent article about the is testing some other type of signaling system on some lines to keep costs down than with CBTC: https://www.ny1.com/nyc/all-boroughs/news/2019/09/27/mta-tests-ultra-wideband-technology-on-l-train- Couldn't they have just used that for Flushing (and then now Queens Blvd) instead?