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Wouldn’t be worth it. 123s are empty as it is once they hit Jersey City. The heavy ridership is all in Union City.

Even a fare card doesn't work well with the NJT zone system. Say I have a one-zone ticket and a two-zone ticket both loaded onto my fare card. I board the bus and tap. How does it know how which ticket to use? If the answer is "tell the driver which ticket to use," that's not going to work in the real world. If you are boarding a bus at Port Authority do you expect a line of 40 people to all state the number of zones they're going? It will delay boarding just as bad or worse as the scanning thing. Mobile tickets are OK because you choose which one to activate before boarding. But forcing people to use a cell phone doesn't sit right with me. Sometimes I need to take the bus and my phone is dead. The people running NJT are morons and I doubt that they thought any of this through. So the implementation of the fare card will be interesting to watch.

I could see a benefit since the 119 gets really full once it hits Central Ave and tends to leave people behind at the last few stops. But they could run more short turns from JSQ to solve this. From my observations the 123 empties out past Congress Street. They should be giving more trips to the 119 and turning more 123s short at Congress. I could even argue that all 123s should end at Congress Street. I know they want to provide service for workers at Christ Hospital, but they can walk to Bergenline.

NJT management clearly has a weird obsession with cruiser buses. On the busy Hudson County routes they are a disaster. I wonder if the people working in the NJT offices have ever tried to get off an MCI while 8 people are standing in the aisle.

North River tubes are completely maxed out, you can’t run any trains from NYP to Meadowlands without stealing trains from another line. Until they increase the number of tracks under the Hudson, building any new lines into NYP is pointless.

Does the person who wrote this know how trains work? Why would people want to wander onto a random platform?

They will kick you off. If the bus is crowded or depending on the driver you might get away with it. But others will remember people's faces and they will stop the bus and make you pay more or kick you off. In my experience the NJT operators are not scared to enforce the fare like how NYCT operators are. I don't see fare evasion on the NJT routes I ride. In NYC enforcing the fare is considered a safety issue.

The same management that buys cruiser buses for busy Hudson County routes. Have you ever tried to get off an MCI with 8 people standing in the aisle? It’s absolutely awful. Nobody managing NJT has ridden a bus.

This didn’t happen did it? Have not been asked to scan on any buses.

They can’t really compete with the jitneys

I honestly had no idea, unlike the former academy routes the 84P actually shows up. I feel stupid now but tbf, NJ Transit needs to make it clearer which routes have it and which don’t.

Was on the 84P out of journal square.

I was on a former coach usa bus (6026) and there’s no ticket/card reader on it… are they on any of the former coach buses? Why would they announce tap to pay if they won’t even have readers on all the buses?

I don’t even use the second door because the operators always forget to open it. It should be a self operating door like most agencies use.

I tried tapping today. I asked the operator if I could tap and he had no clue what I was talking about. Basically what I predicted. The drivers don’t know anything and nobody is going to use this.

NJ Transit officially announced tap to pay yesterday Has anybody used it? How has it been working for the operators? Seems like such a big change but they didn't make a big deal announcing it.

Speaking of which Ive always been fascinated by the NJT routes that go into Warwick NY. Do they run up there because it's profitable? Does NY pay them any money for it?

Can someone explain the difference between the 192 and 199 buses? Looking at the timetable, the 7:45 am PABT departure is a 199 and the 8:00 am PABT departure is a 192. But they make exactly the same stops. So what is the difference

Most likely, nothing. If NJT doesn't take over they are going away forever

I think the difficulty with producing an NJT map is not the size/coverage area, since you could easily split the map up by county or other divisions. The problem is the number of variants for each route which is far beyond most other transit agencies. When a route has 8 different variants it is difficult or impossible to show on a map in an understandable way. The NJT bus system has an inherent legibility problem.

Is there a legitimate purpose to have the destination sign flash the garage name? If anything it could confusing if somebody thinks it’s the destination of the bus. I see too many buses doing it. It should be removed as an option.

The 123 is an exact fare route

It's strange but if they didn't do that then hardly anybody would pay between NY and Secaucus. Would be like the HBLR on the honor system lol

I've used tickets to Secaucus that have been scanned by conductors and never had this problem, I don't think this is intended behavior, probably just the turnstile glitching out. It's irritating to be accused of fare evading when it's not what you did but ultimately they just let you out and there was no harm done...

I'm also annoyed by how many operators are too lazy to switch to the correct sign. When I was at Hoboken the other day an operator on the 23 pulled into the wrong lane, with a 22 sign on, and got out of the bus to yell to everyone that it was a 23? Just why?