subwaycommuter1983

What is even more infuriating is that if God forbid something bad happens to these stupid teens, their parents will have the audacity to sue the MTA when in reality it's the parents fault for being irresponsible. What are these parents doing, while their teens are subway surfing? I just wish all r211's have the same components that prevent subway surfing.

Awesome. How many r211As are currently in service?

And for irresponsible parents to sue the MTA if something bad happens to their teen subway surfers. These irresponsible parents should be held accountable for failing to supervise their teens.

How? The C runs completely below ground. The NYPD needs to harshly penalize these teens (and their parents) who are involved in vandalism and/or subway surfing.

The MTA needs to install platform barriers (not like the ones on 191st, which is pure garbage) to prevent people and trash from getting on the tracks. This would allow open gangway trains to operate safely.

Bad idea. AFAIK the Rockaway Park doesn't have higher ridership than the A. IMO the r179's and the r211's should only go to Rockaway Park during rush hours until a huge majority of the r46's are gone from the A.

It's too soon to put r211's on the Rockaway Shuttle. What's the point of putting NTTs on the Rockaway Shuttle, when the A is still dominated by the r46's? I think that it's even too soon to put the r179's on the Rockaway Shuttle Once the vast majority of the r46's leave the A, then the MTA can think of putting the r211's or r179's on the shuttle.

Let's not get excited. The fact that the open gangway trains are only going to run on a subway line that doesn't have high ridership is a huge setback and defeats the purpose of having open gangway trains. It is also an indication that moving forward the MTA will only stick to purchasing standard trains.

It will be a huge waste of money if both open gangway trains are placed on the C. The C doesn't have the ridership that the A, E, and F trains have.

To add insult to injury, the r46's are getting vandalized and parts for the r46's are becoming scarce. If the MTA doesn't get their act together, we may have a massive subway car shortage that will either lead to Service reduction or some lines running shorter trains, like it happened in the 80's and early 90's. It may take a while before issues on the r211's are fixed.

Exactly, there are some people that just can't accept the fact that the r32's are mostly gone. There are even false rumors spreading on social media that the r32's are returning to service. 🤦 The important thing right now is to fix the issues on the r211's so that deliveries can continue.

If that was the case they would have retired all the r46's too. They are the oldest cars right now.

That was before the pandemic. Once COVID-19 hit, the r32's became a safety and health hazard for train crews, due to the fact that they have to be switching cars. Do I need to remind you that it was the r160's that were used with the r46's when the r179's were massively pulled from service in the summer of 2020?? The r32's are retired and are not coming back. Deal with it. As for the r211's they will be fixed and they will be back.

Sarcasm. Lol!!!

Really?? Who's going to operate them?? Do I need to remind you that train crews refuse to operate the r32's due to COVID?? Let's not forget that COVID still exists.

Fortunately, those issues were fixed and the r179's are currently the most reliable subway fleet in the system. The same will happen with the r211's. 2 years from now, the r211's will be as reliable or even more reliable than the r179's.

There's no point of keeping the r32's any longer when train crews won't operate them due to COVID, which still exists.

At least the r32's weren't vandalized prior to retirement. Lol!!! As for the r46's, I just don't know if it's "railfans" that hate the r46's that are causing these acts of vandalism or if these vandalic acts are caused by teens that have irresponsible parents. Either way, the MTA and NYPD need to impose heavy fines or jail time to those who are vandalizing trains and buses. Remember, if it's easy for a crazy teen to vandalize a train, then it will also be easy for a terrorist to put a bomb on a train. Safety first.

The MTA is never on schedule in regards to overall subway improvements. It seems that the gearbox issues are more serious than the issues that affected the r179's during 2019-2020. As a result, the r211's are obviously behind schedule in regards to delivery, testing and placement in service.

Thanks for the update. I got lucky today and rode 4130-4139. I wasn't chasing trains. I was simply traveling from Harlem to Midtown and the newest r211 was the first train that came.

Thanks for sharing. Both open gangway trains should be in service within a few weeks. Let's cross our fingers. How many r211's are currently in service on the A?

Option 2 will allow Broadway to get some NTTs, most likely r160's, due to ridership. There is still a strong possibility that option 2 may consist of r211Ts. If that is the case, then it would make much more sense to have all open gangway trains go to the E/F because they are the most crowded lines in the B division.

Broadway will have to wait until the r268's are in service to become 100% NTTs, not because of vandalism, but because Broadway is not getting CBTC in the foreseeable future. Remember the r211's will run on lines that are currently running or will run of CBTC within the next 3-5 years.

It will most likely happen if the D does get the r211's.

I saw that train heading NB at 145 St 90 minutes ago.