subwaycommuter1983

I would wait until all the r46's are gone from the A. The C doesn't have that many r46's The C has a lot of 8 car r179's and those trains ain't leaving the C anytime soon.

2 r211As + 13 r179's= 15 NTTs for the A. Work in progress!! 🙌

Yes!!! 🙌 If all goes well moving forward, by 2033 (10 years from now), the only SMEEs left are going to be the garbage trains and NY Transit Museum trains

Nope, A lot of people have confirmed that it passed. As for the schedule it could be crew related. I'm glad that the pilot train is back in service and we should expect the first production train to enter service at any moment.

I found a video that talks about the r268 I just hope that the MTA exercises option order 2 of r211's and purchases enough r268's to replace all r68's and to allow service boosts in the B division.

Hopefully, option order 2 would allow these changes to happen and yes, 4th Avenue needs more local service.

I think that the second option order, which may be open gangway, should go to E/F. The R should stay with the r160's. The D should get r211As, since it does get crowded, especially during PM rush hours and during Yankees game.

The base order of r211As will most likely displace all the r46's off the A/C. That's is probably one of the reasons why the 8 car r179's are being retrofitted with CBTC, even though the J/Z is not getting CBTC any time. The first option order will most likely make the C and G 100% full length and make the B/D 100% NTTs. The G will either get r179's from the C or get r160's from ENY. If CI gets r211As is going to be for the B. I do see second option order going to Jamaica, regardless if it's open gangway or not, while CI gets some of the r160's plus all the r68's. The MTA needs to exercise the second option order not just for CBTC, but also for the second phase of SAS, which will require more trains for the Q. Is it true that the MTA included the r268 in the same capital program as the r262's???

I found a video that does say that the pilot train passed the 30 day test. Now let's wait patiently for the production trains to be delivered, burn in tested (which takes aproximately several days) and gradually be put in service. My guess for the production trains entering service would be 1 train per week or 1 train biweekly.

Passed. The production trains need to do burn in testing before entering service.

Option 2 will allow the NQW to get some of their r160's back. It makes much more sense for Jamaica to get option 2 due to ridership.

That's definitely going to happen, especially once work on 6th Avenue CBTC begins, that's when we're going to see a lot of reroutings via 8th Avenue particularly on the D, which runs 24/7. The F will also get rerouted, but the F already has NTTs.

8th Avenue CBTC includes 59th Street. Therefore, all r68's have to leave the B/D. That's why Concourse will most likely get a good chunk of the 1st option order. There are still rumors that the B may move to Concourse. I don't know how that's going to work out.

Source?? AFAIK SIR is only getting 75 R211S's.

SIR is only getting 75 r211S's.

Why not?? The E/F trains have the highest ridership and QBL has CBTC. The r211's is already equipped with CBTC and can accommodate more riders than the r160's. It makes much more sense for Jamaica to get the second option order. If the MTA is really smart, then they should stop worrying about costs, think about the future and make the whole 2nd option order open gangway. At least the NQW riders can get some of "their precious" r160's back if Jamaica gets the 2nd option order. Also, let's not forget that the first option order will most likely be split between 207 and Concourse due to CBTC.

Were you actually expecting that the r32's and r46's will stay in service for another 10-15 years?? For what?? So that subway service continues to be delayed due to mechanical issues?? Do you know how annoying it is to get to work or school late because the train broke down? The real reason why there is a subway car shortage is because the MTA did not order enough r179's. The subway car shortage will be eliminated with the second option order of r211's.

The r68's cannot stay on the BD once 8th Avenue CBTC is done. R68's are not equipped with CBTC.

They won't fail. Both Ts should run on the E or F trains.

IMO the second option order should go to Jamaica, regardless if it's open gangway or not. The first option order will most likely go to the B, C, D trains due to 8 th Avenue CBTC, which will require the A, B, C, D to be 100% NTTs. The MTA needs to exercise the second option order because ridership is growing and it will continue to grow as more real estate is being built. Also, the r46's won't last beyond 3 years.

Exactly.

The worst performing r46's will be replaced by the best performing r46's. Then, the r68's will replace the remaining r46's, while the r211's will go to subway lines that will run on QBL, 8th Avenue and 6th Avenue due to CBTC.

IMO the worst performing r46's should be removed first and be stored as "emergency fleet" until option 1 begins to enter service. The retirement of the r46's should be done gradually as more option 1 trains enter service and the worst performing trains should retire first.

The r46's are not going to retired yet. Yes, we are going to see the production r211A's gradually enter service. Let's be patient. Don't be surprised if each production train enters service on a weekly or biweekly basis. The MTA should make sure that things are running smoothly with the r211's before retiring any r46's.

Did you really read my latest post?? Cause you really misunderstood what I posted. Since when over using a train means the same as scrapping a train?? Cause if you look at the dictionary or go to Google you will notice that "over using" something and "scrapping" something mean two different things.