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JG still had diesel before 1999 correct?? my feeling wont change when your tell me thing I know already. I'm not here to change anybody mind on what they feel about the MTA. In my 25+ years of dealing with the MTA I've see it decline due to poor management. You have supervisor sitting in cars burning gas while buses are bunching so spare me the whoa is me story with the MTA. I have family in and around the MTA so it's not smoke I'm blowing. I'm part of a few that see this for what it really is not super coating the situation.

West Farm has been open longer then 10 years has been CNG since it open so what got converted ?? JG has been CNG since 99 so once again they dropped the ball it didn't sneak up on them. I know more then you think I just don't believe in giving excuse for people not doing there jobs. Nothing is brand new this system is 100+ and it worst now with more technology. Not a fan of Cuomo outside of him doing what should have been done with the MTA hold the agency accountable.

Respone to what?? That what you pay them for correct. I would do a million times better then the pencials pushers wasting your money. Countdown clocks with horrible service what really the point Its too easy. My opions should not affect you giving that they give you A one service. Take a poll of everyday New York, CB members they wont feel like you. I watch the MTA open forums they dance around just like you with no real answer to why thing are failing.

Sounds like more excuse for poor magnement to much access to data for hiccups so simple. You money is wasted on supervisors not crossing T and dot the I it's really a joke you believe these thing are not unavolblie. The tanks on the CNG are something that should be priorty not waiting until everything expires. It's the same mill in most companies not just MTA nobody will address the issue and hold people accountable. Just make excuse until it directly affect a certain party then it's a issue. The System it a joke at this point and i dont see it turning arounds anytime soon. People will use more ride share service instead of wasting money on a systems not working for the people.

Foresight is part of job as well the Bx6, Bx36 were no secret as far as ridership poor management plays a big part. Politics has it's part so something things are out of the MTA hands so I get, I just call BS when I see it not trying to justify mediocre management.

It's more of this thread is for fleet moves not our opinions on the state of the MTA. I'm trying to respect the thread for other sake would have been a good debate.

That a lack of effort to do your job if you ask me, I wont go into this on this post I understand the sensitive of the board. we are all entitled to our opinion on the state of the MTA I leave it at that.

I can't give a system of this size a break to many people not doing there job. Data is the key to efficiently running a system not just transit systems. I watch them BS and drop the ball and waste money on everything but fixing the system.

Nobody ever acknowledges the poor mismanagement and lack of effort to order correctly.

He pulled y'all in im glad i don't take this to serious 🤣🤣🤣🤣

Knowing TA the will get the R142 from the

SC is 5 min from the New lots av actually.

In a perfect world trippers B6, 20, 83 splitting the 15 could happen with all Postal Trips to SC.

The 36 is good defiantly no space for the 36, 100 should be at FB also but the space is limited and the MTA Bus thing. The ENY\SC situation can be so much better there is space for a least 2 to 3 more local routes. SC - B13, 14, 84, 103, Q7, 8, BM1-4

FB can handle all KP routes I believe you can streamline that whole terminal. GA does OK with WPB routes and that helps keep DH times down FP not as close to WBP or Jamaica as they would like it will help the route. UP does OK but that sheepshead DH is a killer rush hour for the 36 That where FB comes in.

ENY - B12, 14, 15, 17, 25, 42, 45, 60, 65, 82, 83, 84, Q24, 56 FB - B2, 9, 31, 36(UP), 41, 44, 46, 47, 49 JG - B4, 8, 11, 16, 35, 37, 43, 48, 61, 63, 67, 69, 70 FP - B7, 13, 20, 26, 52, 54, 57, Q55, 58 GA - B24, 32, 38, 39, 62, Q54, 59 UP- B1, 3, 6, 36(FB), 64, 68 74, X27, 28, 37, 38

That the biggest problem the routes are not created based off the community needs. They are made by people who never stepped foot in these areas. We can utilize the B84 it just need to go where we want service and its not on Ashford.

It's a debate he entitled to his opinion it's ok to have dialog it won't end the world. I'm Kool as a fan I enjoy different ensign on situations I could be missing something maybe I could not see.

Lol my proposal are base off of me actually riding the route at varies times of the day. You not from here so you not fimlair with the shops and pockets of businesses in and around New lots. We like to stick to the area of ENY, Brownsville & Canarsie. It would not matter if the B13 goes to Williamsburg or Ridgewood it won't add ridership to gateway, Plus the B13 has a purpose and it serves that Gateway is extra. The B83 is the Starrett city bus that most of the rider not gateway customers it actually made it worse then it was. The B20 is almost as bad as the B13 it's only around because you need extra service to Broadway Junction. I don't mind you opions because there not based off were I live. That why the B84 was created to help ENY get to gateway only issue it's not serving ENY. But I would not expect you to know that so it's ok bro I'm not losing sleep over somebody from Flatbush talking to me about service in my area. The B20 has been cut and alter because it cost more then it bring in manly bad routing. While the B83 is packed because nobody wants to transfer at Pennsylvania & New lots or Wortman & Van siclen from the B20.

You don't live in this area it's ok your off a bit stick to Marine Park areas you don't know ENY. The B13 is a feeder for Euclid av nothing more I been off the B84 seeing your talk is not geared towards the current situation in the area. You not a everyday rider of the routes in this area I can tell by the you lack of knowledge. The B83 was chosen because the B6 & B82 are longer enough and would only add run time. The B13 has nothing to do with the B83 being extend there not even in the same rider pool. Your jump all over the place and by the way the B24 is a semi circle route that works well for Greenpoint, Maspeth & Williamsburg.

Pennsylvania Ave is plague by the horrible service pattern, the B20 is dead past rush hour. Wortman av and points east only need access to the (3). The B83 is the primary route to Broadway Junction by the amount of people that get off on van siclen whatever bus is ok. The B13 is a wasted route nobody wants to go to Williamsburg from ENY on the bus. Bushwick is a quicker ride by take the (J) or the (C) to the Junction. Outside of Cypress Hill Houses nobody rides the B13 to gateway You don't really have anything backing your opions towards the B84 needing to be cut. Those 3 routes could do better redesigned to streamline Pennsylvania av which should be a major concern.

It’s not about the B84 and more of your lack of knowledge of the area and the service needs. The network in that area is not geared towards the demands of service for the present time. I don’t really go to Gateway so I could care less if the B84 stay or goes, But it’s not useless I will say that.

As somebody from this area where do you get you number from ??. That community will use the B84 if it better servers us say New Lots or Pennsylvania Avenue. No one will use the B84 from New Lots because the people that use gateway don’t come from the . Brookline, Linden & Blvd all use gateway but don’t have a direct bus beside the horrible B83. If you give the B84 more western service you can draw people to it. The Q8 will not do much for that side as none of us really wanna go to QNS. The B13 is a wasted routes should just left the B18. That the biggest issue with the bus system it’s not basied off the neighborhood that use them. We have 7 Routes in and Around the Spring Creek (Gateway) & ENY area only 2 sever the mall from the same direction.

Outside of rush the RTS are on Standby most the Brooklyn Division follow the practice.

NTT are way more sensitive it would be a very high risk running the Manhattan portion without yard access.