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  1. As of 10/27/17 Para Transit bus 2807 is OOS with Extensive front end damage. Para Transit 1205 is OOS after an accident in Riverhead Possible order over next five years 201x New Flyer XDE35 or XDE40: 43 Buses (Unknown amounts of each model) *2947-2948 Possibly replaced by Unknown Cutaways brought for Fixed Route Service. *The 7D/E, 10A, and 10D/E were proposed to be cut in 1990. It is assumed they were cut because another route that was listed with them was mentioned as having been cut but restored a few years later. It is assumed that if they were indeed cut they were restored around or before 1993 as the routes were listed on the 1993 system wide bus map Suffolk Bus Corp (81 total - 58 buses needed weekday, 47 buses needed Saturday, 16 buses needed Sunday; 60 buses needed Summer weekdays, 49 buses needed Summer Saturdays, 18 buses needed Summer Sundays) Ronkonkoma Yard (58 Total) Routes: S40 (1 Weekday Run, Weekends),S42 (1 Weekday Run, Saturday Only),S45 (2 Run Weekdays & Weekends),S56 (1 Run Weekdays and Saturday),S57,S58 (1 Saturday Run, Sundays),S59,S60 (2 Runs & 1 Saturday Run),S61,S62 (Saturday Only),S63 (1 Weekday Run, Saturday),S66,S69 (Night Loop),S110 (3 AM Runs, 3 PM Runs),3A (1 Weekday Run and Saturday),3B (1 Run weekday, Saturday),3C (2 Weekday Runs and Saturday),3D,6A (Saturdays),6B,7A,7B 1999 Orion 05.503: 9933 [1] 2004 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E450: 2402 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5001-5003,5005-5009,5011-5013,5015-5016,5054,5057,5073,5075,5078-5080 [21] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1017-1019,1022-1024,1026-1027,1029-1030,1033,1035-1036,1038,1057-1058,1060,1063 [18] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1066-1071,1075 [7] 2017 New Flyer XE35: 7021-7030 [10] 2017 ARBOC/Unknown Model: 7113,7119 [2] (Chevy Express Chassis) ----------------------------------------- 2007 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E450: 2703-2705,2708-2719,2721,2725 (16) 2008 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford Ex50: 2801-2803,2806,2808-2814,2816-2830 (26) 2009 Starcraft Starlite Ford E450: 2901-2946,2949-2951 (49) 2012 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford Ex50: 1201-1204,1206-1222 (21) 2013 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E350: 1301-1381 [81] 2014 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford Ex50: 1401-1409 [9] 2015 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E350: 1501-1511,1513-1542 [41] 2017 Coach and Equitment MetroLite Ford Ex50: 1717-1742 [25] Coram Yard (17 Total) Rotues: S40 (1 Weekday Run), S45 (1 Weekday Run?),S56 (1 Weekday Run),S58 (Weekday Only, 3 Saturday Runs),S60 (2 Weekday Runs, 2 Saturday Runs),S61 (1 Weekday Run),S62 (Weekday Only), S63 (1 Weekday Run?),S66 (1 Weekday Run),S68,S76 (II),S110 (1 PM Run),6A (Weekdays),6B (1 Run Weekdays),7B (Weekdays) 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5014,5059,5071-5072,5074,5077 [6] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1021,1025,1028,1031-1032,1037,1059,1061-1062 [9] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1072-1073 [2] --------------------------------------------------------- 2013 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford: 1329 [1] Bay Shore Yard (6 Total) Routes: S40 (2 Weekday Runs),S42 (1 Weekday Run?),S45 (2 Runs Weekday?), S47 (Summer Only), 3A (1 Weekday Run),3B (1 Weekday Run), 3C (1 Weekday Run Only) 1999 Orion 05.504: 9915,9923 [2] 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5004,5010 [2] 2010 Orion 07.502 35ft: 1016,1020 [2] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2015 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E350: 1512 [1] EBT Inc (63 total- 37 buses needed weekday, 25 buses needed Saturday, 11 buses needed Sundays) Routes: S1,S20,S23,S25,S27,S29,S31,S33,S41,S54,1A,2A,2B 2005 Coach and Equipment Metrolite: 2502 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5022-5034,5051-5053,5055-5056,5060 (19) 2008 Gillig Advantage BRT Low Floor: 8001-8004 [4] 2010 Orion 07.501: 1001-1009 [9] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1039-1053,1055-1056 [17] 2017 New Flyer XDE35: 7011-7020 [10] 2017 ARBOC/Unknown Model: 7102,7106-7108 [4] (Chevy Express Chassis) Twin Forks Transit* (25 total - 13 buses needed weekday and Saturday, 7 buses needed Sundays; 14 buses needed Summer Weekdays and Saturdays) Sunrise Coaches Inc. (19 total) Routes: S92,8A 2010 Orion 07.501: 1010-1011,1014-1015 [4] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1065 [1] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1078-1081 [4] 2017 New Flyer XDE40: 7001-7010 (10) Hampton Jitney (6 total) Routes: S94(Summer Only),10B,10C 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5041-5042 [2] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1064 [1] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1074,1076-1077 [3] Total number of Suffolk Transit Buses: 169 Total Number of SCAT buses: 270 * Twin Forks Transit is the contract holder, Sunrise Coach Lines and Hampton Jitney are the sub contractors as well as co-owners of the company. Official Retired Buses (Buses before 1981 were either brought used by the County or were owned by the Private companies and used on routes after the creation of Suffolk Transit) 1959 GM TDH5106: 617 [1] 19xx GM TDH4517: 330,340 [2] 19xx GM xxxxxxx: 92,333-335,395,421,435-436 [8] 1960 GM TDH4517: 420 [1] 1960 GM SDH5301: 101 [1] 1960 GM TDH5302: 371 [1] 1961 GM TDH4517: 106 [1] 1962 GM SDH4501: 1334 (Leased from New York Bus Service?) 1962 GM TDH5301: 409 [1] 1963 GM TDH4519: 527 [1] 1963 GM SDH4502: 102 [1] 1964 GM TDH4519: 837 [1] 1964 GM TDH5304: 158 [1] 1965 GM TDH4519: 292-294,840 [4] 1966 GM TDH4519: 108,111,700 [3] 1967 GM TDH4519: 104-105 [2] 1969 GMC T6H4521: 517,528 [2] 1973 GMC T6H4523A: 904,909,917,921,924 [5] 1974 GMC T6H4523A: 124 [1] 1975 Flxible 45096-6-1: 14-15,828-829,836 [5] 1981 New Flyer D901A-10235C: 108-115,119-120,550-557,800-806 (25) 1982 Gillig Phantom 3596TB: 5-13,(5,118-125),7-13,125-127,209,558-562,815-820 (31) 1982 Chance RT52: 1-4,4-6,20-22,113-117,121-124,210-214,807-814,810-812 (37) 1987 Gillig Phantom 35102TB: 701-702,8703-8704,710,8720-8733,740-742,750-760 (33) 1988 Chance RT52: 300-303,320-321,340-341,350-352,880-884 (16) 1991 Gillig Phantom 40102TB: 9100,910-917 [9] 1991 Gillig Phantom 35102TB: 9101-9108,920,930-934,940-941 (16) 1993 Flexible Metro D 30096-6T: 9301-9303,9311-9316,9321-9326,9331-9342 (27) 1996 Gillig Phantom 35102TB: 9600-9617,9620,9630-9636,9641-9655,9660-9661 (43) 1997 Gillig Phantom 3096TB: 9701-9702,9711-9714,9721-9726,9731-9734 (16) 1999 Orion 05.503: 9901-9914,9916-9922,9924-9930-9932,9934-9942 (39) 2000 Gillig Phantom 35TB102 Suburban: 2000-2005 [6] 2005 Gillig Phantom 35102: 5021,5058,5076,5081,5091-5096 [10] 2010 Orion 07.501: 1012-1013 [2] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1034,1054 [2] Total Number of Retired Suffolk Transit Buses: 354 Retired SCAT Roster (List in incomplete.) 1993 Unknown Ford E Series: xxxx-xxxx (2, Transferred to Suffolk County PD renumbered 29784-28785) 199x Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford: 1909-1910 [2] 2000 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 94xx,9414,9446,9494 [4] 2002 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2201-2218 [18] 2003 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2301-2315 (15) 2004 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2401-2405,2407-2425 [24] 2006 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2500-2501,2503-2509,2511-2516 (15) 2007 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2701-2702,2706-2707,2709-2710,2720,2722-2724,2726,27xx-27xx (13; #2702 & 2724 transferred to Suffolk County PD) 2008 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2804-2805,2815 (3, 28xx Transferred to Suffolk County Parks Department for Smith Point Park Shuttle) Total Number of Retired SCAT Buses: 96 Official Retired Routes List S35 - (1981-2016) S71 - (2001-2016) S90 - (1981-2016) 1B - (1981-2016) 5A - (1981-2016) 7D - (1981-1990,1992?-2016*) 7E - (1981-1990,1992?-2016*) 10A - (1981-1990,1992?-2016*) 10D - (1981-1990,1992?-2016*) 10E - (1981-1990,1992?-2016*) S74 (1981-1998) S21 (1981-1990) 1C (1981-1990) 9A (1981-1990) S64 (1981-1987?) 4A (1981-1987) 4B (1981-1987) S76 (I) (1984) 7C (1981-19xx) 8B (1981-19xx) Total Number of Retired Routes: 20 Former Operators CBS Lines, Inc (1989-2011) Inter-County Motor Coach (1977-2011) Alert Coach Lines (1977-1978,1981-1994) Coram Bus Service, Inc/Coram Line Service, Inc (1981-1989) The Blue Coach Lines (1981-????) Louis A. Fuoco Bus Service (1981-????) Babylon Transit (1981-????) Lindenhurst Bus Co, Inc (1981-????) Long Island Airport Service (????) MSBA (1973-1975,1977-1981) SeaShore Transit, Inc (1978) Holbrook Transportation Corp (1975-1977) Number of former operators: 12
  2. County probably doesn't have the money for it. The County doesn't have that much money, which is why the cut the routes last year, and only brought 30 New Flyers as the base order. The ARBOC/Unknown Model came from some short of State program, not exactly sure if Suffolk had to put in money for that. Besides they were brought in part with Federal Money which states I believe that buses can be retired after either 12 years or 500,000 miles. The route that they worked (S92) is pretty long Wouldn't be surprised if they have over 500,000 miles. (One of the 2005 Gilligs that were retired from the S92 had 999,999 Miles on it.)
  3. Yes the Base order of 30 buses have come in and are in service. 2010 Orion 07.501 1012-1013 had a high amount of miles on them from working nearly every day on the S92. 2010 Orion 07.502 1034,1054 caught fire and were destroyed.
  4. As of 10/9/17 5076 is OOS after being involved in an accident 7/20/15 - Possibly Retired? Para Transit bus 2807 is OOS with Extensive front end damage. 5058 OOS due to an accident on the LIE on 9/27/16 - Possibly Retired? Para Transit 1205 is OOS after an accident in Riverhead 5081 is OOS due to unknown accident and maybe retired. Possible order over next five years 201x New Flyer XDE35 or XDE40: 43 Buses (Unknown amounts of each model) *2947-2948 Possibly replaced by Unknown Cutaways brought for Fixed Route Service. *The 7D/E, 10A, and 10D/E were proposed to be cut in 1990. It is assumed they were cut because another route that was listed with them was mentioned as having been cut but restored a few years later. It is assumed that if they were indeed cut they were restored around or before 1993 as the routes were listed on the 1993 system wide bus map Suffolk Bus Corp (81 total - 58 buses needed weekday, 47 buses needed Saturday, 16 buses needed Sunday; 60 buses needed Summer weekdays, 49 buses needed Summer Saturdays, 18 buses needed Summer Sundays) Ronkonkoma Yard (57 Total) Routes: S40 (1 Weekday Run, Weekends),S42 (1 Weekday Run, Saturday Only),S45 (2 Run Weekdays & Weekends),S56 (1 Run Weekdays and Saturday),S57,S58 (1 Saturday Run, Sundays),S59,S60 (2 Runs & 1 Saturday Run),S61,S62 (Saturday Only),S63 (1 Weekday Run, Saturday),S66,S69 (Night Loop),S110 (3 AM Runs, 3 PM Runs),3A (1 Weekday Run and Saturday),3B (1 Run weekday, Saturday),3C (2 Weekday Runs and Saturday),3D,6A (Saturdays),6B,7A,7B 1999 Orion 05.503: 9933 [1] 2004 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E450: 2402 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5001-5003,5006-5009,5011-5013,5015-5016,5054,5057,5073,5075,5078-5080 [20] 2009 Starcraft Starlite Ford E450: 2947-2948 [2] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1017-1019,1022-1024,1026-1027,1029-1030,1033,1035-1036,1038,1057-1058,1060,1063 [18] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1066-1071,1075 [7] 2017 New Flyer XE35: 7021-7030 [10] 2017 ARBOC/Unknown Model: 7113 [1] (Cutaways) ----------------------------------------- 2007 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E450: 2703-2705,2708-2719,2721,2725 (16) 2008 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford Ex50: 2801-2803,2806,2808-2814,2816-2830 (26) 2009 Starcraft Starlite Ford E450: 2901-2946,2949-2951 (49) 2012 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford Ex50: 1201-1204,1206-1222 (21) 2013 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E350: 1301-1381 [81] 2014 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford Ex50: 1401-1409 [9] 2015 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E350: 1501-1511,1513-1542 [41] 2017 Coach and Equitment MetroLite Ford Ex50: 1717-1742 [25] Coram Yard (17 Total) Rotues: S40 (1 Weekday Run), S45 (1 Weekday Run?),S56 (1 Weekday Run),S58 (Weekday Only, 3 Saturday Runs),S60 (2 Weekday Runs, 2 Saturday Runs),S61 (1 Weekday Run),S62 (Weekday Only), S63 (1 Weekday Run?),S66 (1 Weekday Run),S68,S76 (II),S110 (1 PM Run),6A (Weekdays),6B (1 Run Weekdays),7B (Weekdays) 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5014,5059,5071-5072,5074,5077 [6] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1021,1025,1028,1031-1032,1037,1059,1061-1062 [9] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1072-1073 [2] --------------------------------------------------------- 2013 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford: 1329 [1] Bay Shore Yard (7 Total) Routes: S40 (2 Weekday Runs),S42 (1 Weekday Run?),S45 (2 Runs Weekday?), S47 (Summer Only), 3A (1 Weekday Run),3B (1 Weekday Run), 3C (1 Weekday Run Only) 1999 Orion 05.504: 9915,9923 [2] 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5004-5005,5010 [3] 2010 Orion 07.502 35ft: 1016,1020 [2] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2015 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E350: 1512 [1] EBT Inc (61 total- 37 buses needed weekday, 25 buses needed Saturday, 11 buses needed Sundays) Routes: S1,S20,S23,S25,S27,S29,S31,S33,S41,S54,1A,2A,2B 2005 Coach and Equipment Metrolite: 2502 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5022-5034,5051-5053,5055-5056,5060 (19) 2008 Gillig Advantage BRT Low Floor: 8001-8004 [4] 2010 Orion 07.501: 1001-1009 [9] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1039-1053,1055-1056 [17] 2017 New Flyer XDE35: 7011-7020 [10] 2017 ARBOC/Unknown Model: 7102,7108 [2] (Cutaway) Twin Forks Transit* (25 total - 13 buses needed weekday and Saturday, 7 buses needed Sundays; 14 buses needed Summer Weekdays and Saturdays) Sunrise Coaches Inc. (19 total) Routes: S92,8A 2010 Orion 07.501: 1010-1011,1014-1015 [4] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1065 [1] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1078-1081 [4] 2017 New Flyer XDE40: 7001-7010 (10) Hampton Jitney (6 total) Routes: S94(Summer Only),10B,10C 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5041-5042 [2] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1064 [1] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1074,1076-1077 [3] Total number of Suffolk Transit Buses: 166 Total Number of SCAT buses: 270 * Twin Forks Transit is the contract holder, Sunrise Coach Lines and Hampton Jitney are the sub contractors as well as co-owners of the company. Official Retired Buses (Buses before 1981 were either brought used by the County or were owned by the Private companies and used on routes after the creation of Suffolk Transit) 1959 GM TDH5106: 617 [1] 19xx GM TDH4517: 330,340 [2] 19xx GM xxxxxxx: 92,395,421,435-436 [5] 1960 GM TDH4517: 420 [1] 1960 GM SDH5301: 101 [1] 1960 GM TDH5302: 371 [1] 1961 GM TDH4517: 106 [1] 1962 GM SDH4501: 1334 (Leased from New York Bus Service?) 1962 GM TDH5301: 409 [1] 1963 GM TDH4519: 527 [1] 1963 GM SDH4502: 102 [1] 1964 GM TDH4519: 837 [1] 1964 GM TDH5304: 158 [1] 1965 GM TDH4519: 292-294,840 [4] 1966 GM TDH4519: 108,111,700 [3] 1967 GM TDH4519: 104-105 [2] 1969 GMC T6H4521: 517,528 [2] 1973 GMC T6H4523A: 904,909,917,921,924 [5] 1974 GMC T6H4523A: 124 [1] 1975 Flxible 45096-6-1: 14-15,828-829,836 [5] 1981 New Flyer D901A-10235C: 108-115,119-120,550-557,800-806 (25) 1982 Gillig Phantom 3596TB: 5-13,(5,118-125),7-13,125-127,209,558-562,815-820 (31) 1982 Chance RT52: 1-4,4-6,20-22,113-117,121-124,210-214,807-814,810-812 (37) 1987 Gillig Phantom 35102TB: 701-702,8703-8704,710,8720-8733,740-742,750-760 (33) 1988 Chance RT52: 300-303,320-321,340-341,350-352,880-884 (16) 1991 Gillig Phantom 40102TB: 9100,910-917 [9] 1991 Gillig Phantom 35102TB: 9101-9108,920,930-934,940-941 (16) 1993 Flexible Metro D 30096-6T: 9301-9303,9311-9316,9321-9326,9331-9342 (27) 1996 Gillig Phantom 35102TB: 9600-9617,9620,9630-9636,9641-9655,9660-9661 (43) 1997 Gillig Phantom 3096TB: 9701-9702,9711-9714,9721-9726,9731-9734 (16) 1999 Orion 05.503: 9901-9914,9916-9922,9924-9930-9932,9934-9942 (39) 2000 Gillig Phantom 35TB102 Suburban: 2000-2005 [6] 2005 Gillig Phantom 35102: 5021,5058,5076,5081,5091-5096 [10] 2010 Orion 07.501: 1012-1013 [2] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1034,1054 [2] Total Number of Retired Suffolk Transit Buses: 351 Retired SCAT Roster (List in incomplete.) 1993 Unknown Ford E Series: xxxx-xxxx (2, Transferred to Suffolk County PD renumbered 29784-28785) 199x Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford: 1909-1910 [2] 2000 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 94xx,9414,9446,9494 [4] 2002 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2201-2218 [18] 2003 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2301-2315 (15) 2004 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2401-2405,2407-2425 [24] 2006 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2500-2501,2503-2509,2511-2516 (15) 2007 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2701-2702,2706-2707,2709-2710,2720,2722-2724,2726,27xx-27xx (13; #2702 & 2724 transferred to Suffolk County PD) 2008 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2804-2805,2815 (3, 28xx Transferred to Suffolk County Parks Department for Smith Point Park Shuttle) Total Number of Retired SCAT Buses: 96 Official Retired Routes List S35 - (1981-2016) S71 - (2001-2016) S90 - (1981-2016) 1B - (1981-2016) 5A - (1981-2016) 7D - (1981-1990,1992?-2016*) 7E - (1981-1990,1992?-2016*) 10A - (1981-1990,1992?-2016*) 10D - (1981-1990,1992?-2016*) 10E - (1981-1990,1992?-2016*) S74 (1981-1998) S21 (1981-1990) 1C (1981-1990) 9A (1981-1990) S64 (1981-1987?) 4A (1981-1987) 4B (1981-1987) S76 (I) (1984) 7C (1981-19xx) 8B (1981-19xx) Total Number of Retired Routes: 20 Former Operators CBS Lines, Inc (1989-2011) Inter-County Motor Coach (1977-2011) Alert Coach Lines (1977-1978,1981-1994) Coram Bus Service, Inc/Coram Line Service, Inc (1981-1989) The Blue Coach Lines (1981-????) Louis A. Fuoco Bus Service (1981-????) Babylon Transit (1981-????) Lindenhurst Bus Co, Inc (1981-????) Long Island Airport Service (????) MSBA (1973-1975,1977-1981) SeaShore Transit, Inc (1978) Holbrook Transportation Corp (1975-1977) Number of former operators: 12
  5. Wouldn't be suprised if it had been late the whole day. Not sure what exact S45 run it starts with but #7025 comes off the first S110 run in the Morning.
  6. As of 10/3/17 5021 is OOS due to a accident in Patchouge on 3/20/17 while on the S54 5076 is OOS after being involved in an accident 7/20/15 - Possibly Retired? Para Transit bus 2807 is OOS with Extensive front end damage. 5058 OOS due to an accident on the LIE on 9/27/16 - Possibly Retired? Para Transit 1205 is OOS after an accident in Riverhead 1034 caught fire and is possibly retired. 5081 is OOS due to unknown accident and maybe retired. Possible order over next five years 201x New Flyer XDE35 or XDE40: 43 Buses (Unknown amounts of each model) *2947-2948 transferred to Fix route for use on the 7A (2948 broke down and was replaced by 2947 for the rest of the week, unknown if 2948 was returned to SCAT service) *2947-2948 Possibly replaced by Unknown Cutaways brought for Fixed Route Service. *The 7D/E, 10A, and 10D/E were proposed to be cut in 1990. It is assumed they were cut because another route that was listed with them was mentioned as having been cut but restored a few years later. It is assumed that if they were indeed cut they were restored around or before 1993 as the routes were listed on the 1993 system wide bus map Suffolk Bus Corp (92 total - 58 buses needed weekday, 47 buses needed Saturday, 16 buses needed Sunday; 60 buses needed Summer weekdays, 49 buses needed Summer Saturdays, 18 buses needed Summer Sundays) Ronkonkoma Yard (66 Total) Routes: S40 (1 Weekday Run, Weekends),S42 (1 Weekday Run, Saturday Only),S45 (1 Run Weekdays & Weekends),S56 (1 Run Weekdays and Saturdays?),S57,S58 (Weekends Only),S59,S60 (2 Runs & Weekends?),S61,S62 (Saturday Only),S63 (1 Weekday Run, Saturday),S66,S69 (Night Loop),S110 (3 AM Runs, 3 PM Runs),3A (1 Weekday Run and Saturday),3B (1 Run weekday, Saturday),3C (2 Weekdays and Saturday),3D (2 Run Weekdays?, 1 Run Saturday?, Sunday),6A (Saturdays),6B,7A,7B 1999 Orion 05.503: 9908,9928,9932-9933,9935,9939 [6] 2000 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 2000-2001,2004-2005 [4] 2004 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E450: 2402 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5001-5003,5006-5010,5012-5016,5054,5057,5073-5073,5075,5078-5080 [20] 2009 Starcraft Starlite Ford E450: 2947-2948 [2] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1018-1019,1023-1024,1026-1027,1029-1030,1032-1033,1035-1036,1038,1057-1058,1060,1063 [17] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1066-1071,1075 [7] 2017 New Flyer XE35: 7021-7030 [10] 2017 Unknown Make/Model: 7113 [1] (Cutaway) ----------------------------------------- 2007 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E450: 2703-2705,2708-2719,2721,2725 (16) 2008 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford Ex50: 2801-2803,2806,2808-2814,2816-2830 (26) 2009 Starcraft Starlite Ford E450: 2901-2946,2949-2951 (49) 2012 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford Ex50: 1201-1204,1206-1222 (21) 2013 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E350: 1301-1381 [81] 2014 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford Ex50: 1401-1409 [9] 2015 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E350: 1501-1511,1513-1542 [41] 2017 Coach and Equitment MetroLite Ford Ex50: 1717-1742 [25] Coram Yard (15 Total) Rotues: S45 (1 Weekday Run?),S56 (1 Run Weekdays?),S58 (Weekday Only),S60 (2 Runs? Weekday, 1 Run Saturday?),S61 (1 Run Weekdays),S62 (Weekday Only), S63 (1 Weekday Run?)S68,S76 (II),S110 (1 PM Run),3D (2 Run Saturday?),6A (Weekdays), 6B (1 Run Weekdays?) 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5011,5059,5071-5072,5074,5077 [6] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1021,1025,1031,1037,1059,1061-1062 [7] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1072-1073 [2] --------------------------------------------------------- 2013 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford: 1329 [1] Bay Shore Yard (11 Total) Routes: S40 (Weekday Only),S42 (1 Weekday Run?),S45 (2 Runs Weekday?), S47(Summer Only), 3A (1 Weekday Run),3B (1 Weekday Run), 3C (1 Weekday Run Only) 1999 Orion 05.504: 9915,9920,9923,9929 [4] 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5004-5005 [2] 2010 Orion 07.502 35ft: 1016-1017,1020,1022,1028 [5] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2015 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E350: 1512 [1] EBT Inc (61 total- 37 buses needed weekday, 25 buses needed Saturday, 11 buses needed Sundays) Routes: S1,S20,S23,S25,S27,S29,S31,S33,S41,S54,1A,2A,2B 1999 Orion 05.503: 9913 [1] 2005 Coach and Equipment Metrolite: 2502 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5022-5034,5051-5053,5055-5056,5060 (19) 2008 Gillig Advantage BRT Low Floor: 8001-8004 [4] 2010 Orion 07.501: 1001-1009 [9] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1039-1053,1055-1056 [17] 2017 New Flyer XDE35: 7011-7020 [10] 2017 Unknown Make/Model: 7102 [1] (Cutaway) Twin Forks Transit* (27 total - 13 buses needed weekday and Saturday, 7 buses needed Sundays; 14 buses needed Summer Weekdays and Saturdays) Sunrise Coaches Inc. (21 total) Routes: S92,8A 2010 Orion 07.501: 1010-1015 [6] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1065 [1] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1078-1081 [4] 2017 New Flyer XDE40: 7001-7010 (10) Hampton Jitney (6 total) Routes: S94(Summer Only),10B,10C 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5041-5042 [2] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1064 [1] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1074,1076-1077 [3] Total number of Suffolk Transit Buses: 179 Total Number of SCAT buses: 270 * Twin Forks Transit is the contract holder, Sunrise Coach Lines and Hampton Jitney are the sub contractors as well as co-owners of the company. Official Retired Buses (Buses before 1981 were either brought used by the County or were owned by the Private companies and used on routes after the creation of Suffolk Transit) 1959 GM TDH5106: 617 [1] 19xx GM TDH4517: 330,340 [2] 19xx GM xxxxxxx: 92,395,421,435-436 [5] 1960 GM TDH4517: 420 [1] 1960 GM SDH5301: 101 [1] 1960 GM TDH5302: 371 [1] 1961 GM TDH4517: 106 [1] 1962 GM SDH4501: 1334 (Leased from New York Bus Service?) 1962 GM TDH5301: 409 [1] 1963 GM TDH4519: 527 [1] 1963 GM SDH4502: 102 [1] 1964 GM TDH4519: 837 [1] 1964 GM TDH5304: 158 [1] 1965 GM TDH4519: 292-294,840 [4] 1966 GM TDH4519: 108,111,700 [3] 1967 GM TDH4519: 104-105 [2] 1969 GMC T6H4521: 517,528 [2] 1973 GMC T6H4523A: 904,909,917,921,924 [5] 1974 GMC T6H4523A: 124 [1] 1975 Flxible 45096-6-1: 14-15,828-829,836 [5] 1981 New Flyer D901A-10235C: 108-115,119-120,550-557,800-806 (25) 1982 Gillig Phantom 3596TB: 5-13,(5,118-125),7-13,125-127,209,558-562,815-820 (31) 1982 Chance RT52: 1-4,4-6,20-22,113-117,121-124,210-214,807-814,810-812 (37) 1987 Gillig Phantom 35102TB: 701-702,8703-8704,710,8720-8733,740-742,750-760 (33) 1988 Chance RT52: 300-303,320-321,340-341,350-352,880-884 (16) 1991 Gillig Phantom 40102TB: 9100,910-917 [9] 1991 Gillig Phantom 35102TB: 9101-9108,920,930-934,940-941 (16) 1993 Flexible Metro D 30096-6T: 9301-9303,9311-9316,9321-9326,9331-9342 (27) 1996 Gillig Phantom 35102TB: 9600-9617,9620,9630-9636,9641-9655,9660-9661 (43) 1997 Gillig Phantom 3096TB: 9701-9702,9711-9714,9721-9726,9731-9734 (16) 1999 Orion 05.503: 9901-9907,9909-9912,9914,9916-9919,9921-9922,9924-9927,9930-9931,9934,9936-9938,9940-9942 (31) 2000 Gillig Phantom 35TB102 Suburban: 2002-2003 [2] 2005 Gillig Phantom 35102: 5058,5076,5081,5091-5096 [9] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1034,1054 [2] Total Number of Retired Suffolk Transit Buses: 336 Retired SCAT Roster (List in incomplete.) 1993 Unknown Ford E Series: xxxx-xxxx (2, Transferred to Suffolk County PD renumbered 29784-28785) 199x Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford: 1909-1910 [2] 2000 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 94xx,9414,9446,9494 [4] 2002 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2201-2218 [18] 2003 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2301-2315 (15) 2004 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2401-2405,2407-2425 [24] 2006 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2500-2501,2503-2509,2511-2516 (15) 2007 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2701-2702,2706-2707,2709-2710,2720,2722-2724,2726,27xx-27xx (13; #2702 & 2724 transferred to Suffolk County PD) 2008 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2804-2805,2815 (3, 28xx Transferred to Suffolk County Parks Department for Smith Point Park Shuttle) Total Number of Retired SCAT Buses: 96 Official Retired Routes List S35 - (1981-2016) S71 - (2001-2016) S90 - (1981-2016) 1B - (1981-2016) 5A - (1981-2016) 7D - (1981-1990,1992?-2016*) 7E - (1981-1990,1992?-2016*) 10A - (1981-1990,1992?-2016*) 10D - (1981-1990,1992?-2016*) 10E - (1981-1990,1992?-2016*) S74 (1981-1998) S21 (1981-1990) 1C (1981-1990) 9A (1981-1990) S64 (1981-1987?) 4A (1981-1987) 4B (1981-1987) S76 (I) (1984) 7C (1981-19xx) 8B (1981-19xx) Total Number of Retired Routes: 20 Former Operators CBS Lines, Inc (1989-2011) Inter-County Motor Coach (1977-2011) Alert Coach Lines (1977-1978,1981-1994) Coram Bus Service, Inc/Coram Line Service, Inc (1981-1989) The Blue Coach Lines (1981-????) Louis A. Fuoco Bus Service (1981-????) Babylon Transit (1981-????) Lindenhurst Bus Co, Inc (1981-????) Long Island Airport Service (????) MSBA (1973-1975,1977-1981) SeaShore Transit, Inc (1978) Holbrook Transportation Corp (1975-1977) Number of former operators: 12
  7. As of 10/3/17 5021 is OOS due to a accident in Patchouge on 3/20/17 while on the S54 5076 is OOS after being involved in an accident 7/20/15 - Possibly Retired? Para Transit bus 2807 is OOS with Extensive front end damage. 5058 OOS due to an accident on the LIE on 9/27/16 - Possibly Retired? Para Transit 1205 is OOS after an accident in Riverhead 1034 caught fire and is possibly retired. 5081 is OOS due to unknown accident and maybe retired. Possible order over next five years 201x New Flyer XDE35 or XDE40: 43 Buses (Unknown amounts of each model) *2947-2948 transferred to Fix route for use on the 7A (2948 broke down and was replaced by 2947 for the rest of the week, unknown if 2948 was returned to SCAT service) *2947-2948 Possibly replaced by Unknown Cutaways brought for Fixed Route Service. *The 7D/E, 10A, and 10D/E were proposed to be cut in 1990. It is assumed they were cut because another route that was listed with them was mentioned as having been cut but restored a few years later. It is assumed that if they were indeed cut they were restored around or before 1993 as the routes were listed on the 1993 system wide bus map Suffolk Bus Corp (92 total - 58 buses needed weekday, 47 buses needed Saturday, 16 buses needed Sunday; 60 buses needed Summer weekdays, 49 buses needed Summer Saturdays, 18 buses needed Summer Sundays) Ronkonkoma Yard (66 Total) Routes: S40 (1 Weekday Run, Weekends),S42 (1 Weekday Run, Saturday Only),S45 (1 Run Weekdays & Weekends),S56 (1 Run Weekdays and Saturdays?),S57,S58 (Weekends Only),S59,S60 (2 Runs & Weekends?),S61,S62 (Saturday Only),S63 (1 Weekday Run, Saturday),S66,S69 (Night Loop),S110 (3 AM Runs, 3 PM Runs),3A (1 Weekday Run and Saturday),3B (1 Run weekday, Saturday),3C (2 Weekdays and Saturday),3D (2 Run Weekdays?, 1 Run Saturday?, Sunday),6A (Saturdays),6B,7A,7B 1999 Orion 05.503: 9908,9928,9932-9933,9935,9939 [6] 2000 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 2000-2001,2004-2005 [4] 2004 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E450: 2402 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5001-5003,5006-5010,5012-5016,5054,5057,5073-5073,5075,5078-5080 [20] 2009 Starcraft Starlite Ford E450: 2947-2948 [2] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1018-1019,1023-1024,1026-1027,1029-1030,1032-1033,1035-1036,1038,1057-1058,1060,1063 [17] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1066-1071,1075 [7] 2017 New Flyer XE35: 7021-7030 [10] 2017 Unknown Make/Model: 7113 [1] ----------------------------------------- 2007 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E450: 2703-2705,2708-2719,2721,2725 (16) 2008 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford Ex50: 2801-2803,2806,2808-2814,2816-2830 (26) 2009 Starcraft Starlite Ford E450: 2901-2946,2949-2951 (49) 2012 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford Ex50: 1201-1204,1206-1222 (21) 2013 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E350: 1301-1381 [81] 2014 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford Ex50: 1401-1409 [9] 2015 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E350: 1501-1511,1513-1542 [41] 2017 Coach and Equitment MetroLite Ford Ex50: 1717-1742 [25] Coram Yard (15 Total) Rotues: S45 (1 Weekday Run?),S56 (1 Run Weekdays?),S58 (Weekday Only),S60 (2 Runs? Weekday, 1 Run Saturday?),S61 (1 Run Weekdays),S62 (Weekday Only), S63 (1 Weekday Run?)S68,S76 (II),S110 (1 PM Run),3D (2 Run Saturday?),6A (Weekdays), 6B (1 Run Weekdays?) 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5011,5059,5071-5072,5074,5077 [6] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1021,1025,1031,1037,1059,1061-1062 [7] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1072-1073 [2] --------------------------------------------------------- 2013 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford: 1329 [1] Bay Shore Yard (11 Total) Routes: S40 (Weekday Only),S42 (1 Weekday Run?),S45 (2 Runs Weekday?), S47(Summer Only), 3A (1 Weekday Run),3B (1 Weekday Run), 3C (1 Weekday Run Only) 1999 Orion 05.504: 9915,9920,9923,9929 [4] 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5004-5005 [2] 2010 Orion 07.502 35ft: 1016-1017,1020,1022,1028 [5] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2015 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E350: 1512 [1] EBT Inc (60 total- 37 buses needed weekday, 25 buses needed Saturday, 11 buses needed Sundays) Routes: S1,S20,S23,S25,S27,S29,S31,S33,S41,S54,1A,2A,2B 1999 Orion 05.503: 9913 [1] 2005 Coach and Equipment Metrolite: 2502 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5022-5034,5051-5053,5055-5056,5060 (19) 2008 Gillig Advantage BRT Low Floor: 8001-8004 [4] 2010 Orion 07.501: 1001-1009 [9] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1039-1053,1055-1056 [17] 2017 New Flyer XDE35: 7011-7020 [10] Twin Forks Transit* (27 total - 13 buses needed weekday and Saturday, 7 buses needed Sundays; 14 buses needed Summer Weekdays and Saturdays) Sunrise Coaches Inc. (21 total) Routes: S92,8A 2010 Orion 07.501: 1010-1015 [6] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1065 [1] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1078-1081 [4] 2017 New Flyer XDE40: 7001-7010 (10) Hampton Jitney (6 total) Routes: S94(Summer Only),10B,10C 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5041-5042 [2] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1064 [1] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1074,1076-1077 [3] Total number of Suffolk Transit Buses: 177 Total Number of SCAT buses: 270 * Twin Forks Transit is the contract holder, Sunrise Coach Lines and Hampton Jitney are the sub contractors as well as co-owners of the company. Official Retired Buses (Buses before 1981 were either brought used by the County or were owned by the Private companies and used on routes after the creation of Suffolk Transit) 1959 GM TDH5106: 617 [1] 19xx GM TDH4517: 330,340 [2] 19xx GM xxxxxxx: 92,395,421,435-436 [5] 1960 GM TDH4517: 420 [1] 1960 GM SDH5301: 101 [1] 1960 GM TDH5302: 371 [1] 1961 GM TDH4517: 106 [1] 1962 GM SDH4501: 1334 (Leased from New York Bus Service?) 1962 GM TDH5301: 409 [1] 1963 GM TDH4519: 527 [1] 1963 GM SDH4502: 102 [1] 1964 GM TDH4519: 837 [1] 1964 GM TDH5304: 158 [1] 1965 GM TDH4519: 292-294,840 [4] 1966 GM TDH4519: 108,111,700 [3] 1967 GM TDH4519: 104-105 [2] 1969 GMC T6H4521: 517,528 [2] 1973 GMC T6H4523A: 904,909,917,921,924 [5] 1974 GMC T6H4523A: 124 [1] 1975 Flxible 45096-6-1: 14-15,828-829,836 [5] 1981 New Flyer D901A-10235C: 108-115,119-120,550-557,800-806 (25) 1982 Gillig Phantom 3596TB: 5-13,(5,118-125),7-13,125-127,209,558-562,815-820 (31) 1982 Chance RT52: 1-4,4-6,20-22,113-117,121-124,210-214,807-814,810-812 (37) 1987 Gillig Phantom 35102TB: 701-702,8703-8704,710,8720-8733,740-742,750-760 (33) 1988 Chance RT52: 300-303,320-321,340-341,350-352,880-884 (16) 1991 Gillig Phantom 40102TB: 9100,910-917 [9] 1991 Gillig Phantom 35102TB: 9101-9108,920,930-934,940-941 (16) 1993 Flexible Metro D 30096-6T: 9301-9303,9311-9316,9321-9326,9331-9342 (27) 1996 Gillig Phantom 35102TB: 9600-9617,9620,9630-9636,9641-9655,9660-9661 (43) 1997 Gillig Phantom 3096TB: 9701-9702,9711-9714,9721-9726,9731-9734 (16) 1999 Orion 05.503: 9901-9907,9909-9912,9914,9916-9919,9921-9922,9924-9927,9930-9931,9934,9936-9938,9940-9942 (31) 2000 Gillig Phantom 35TB102 Suburban: 2002-2003 [2] 2005 Gillig Phantom 35102: 5058,5076,5081,5091-5096 [9] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1034,1054 [2] Total Number of Retired Suffolk Transit Buses: 336 Retired SCAT Roster (List in incomplete.) 1993 Unknown Ford E Series: xxxx-xxxx (2, Transferred to Suffolk County PD renumbered 29784-28785) 199x Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford: 1909-1910 [2] 2000 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 94xx,9414,9446,9494 [4] 2002 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2201-2218 [18] 2003 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2301-2315 (15) 2004 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2401-2405,2407-2425 [24] 2006 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2500-2501,2503-2509,2511-2516 (15) 2007 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2701-2702,2706-2707,2709-2710,2720,2722-2724,2726,27xx-27xx (13; #2702 & 2724 transferred to Suffolk County PD) 2008 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2804-2805,2815 (3, 28xx Transferred to Suffolk County Parks Department for Smith Point Park Shuttle) Total Number of Retired SCAT Buses: 96 Official Retired Routes List S35 - (1981-2016) S71 - (2001-2016) S90 - (1981-2016) 1B - (1981-2016) 5A - (1981-2016) 7D - (1981-1990,1992?-2016*) 7E - (1981-1990,1992?-2016*) 10A - (1981-1990,1992?-2016*) 10D - (1981-1990,1992?-2016*) 10E - (1981-1990,1992?-2016*) S74 (1981-1998) S21 (1981-1990) 1C (1981-1990) 9A (1981-1990) S64 (1981-1987?) 4A (1981-1987) 4B (1981-1987) S76 (I) (1984) 7C (1981-19xx) 8B (1981-19xx) Total Number of Retired Routes: 20 Former Operators CBS Lines, Inc (1989-2011) Inter-County Motor Coach (1977-2011) Alert Coach Lines (1977-1978,1981-1994) Coram Bus Service, Inc/Coram Line Service, Inc (1981-1989) The Blue Coach Lines (1981-????) Louis A. Fuoco Bus Service (1981-????) Babylon Transit (1981-????) Lindenhurst Bus Co, Inc (1981-????) Long Island Airport Service (????) MSBA (1973-1975,1977-1981) SeaShore Transit, Inc (1978) Holbrook Transportation Corp (1975-1977) Number of former operators: 12
  8. As of 8/10/17 5021 is OOS due to a accident in Patchouge on 3/20/17 while on the S54 5076 is OOS after being involved in an accident 7/20/15 - Possibly Retired? Para Transit bus 2807 is OOS with Extensive front end damage. 5058 OOS due to an accident on the LIE on 9/27/16 - Possibly Retired? Para Transit 1205 is OOS after an accident in Riverhead 5081 is OOS due to unknown accident and maybe retired. Possible order over next five years 201x New Flyer XDE35 or XDE40: 43 Buses (Unknown amounts of each model) *2947-2948 transferred to Fix route for use on the 7A (2948 broke down and was replaced by 2947 for the rest of the week, unknown if 2948 was returned to SCAT service) *The 7D/E, 10A, and 10D/E were proposed to be cut in 1990. It is assumed they were cut because another route that was listed with them was mentioned as having been cut but restored a few years later. It is assumed that if they were indeed cut they were restored around or before 1993 as the routes were listed on the 1993 system wide bus map Suffolk Bus Corp (88 total - 58 buses needed weekday, 47 buses needed Saturday, 16 buses needed Sunday; 60 buses needed Summer weekdays, 49 buses needed Summer Saturdays, 18 buses needed Summer Sundays) Ronkonkoma Yard (55 Total) Routes: S40 (Weekends Only),S42 (Saturday Only),S45 (Weekends Only),S56,S57,S58 (Weekends Only),S59,S60,S61,S62 (Saturday Only),S63,S66,S68,S69 (Night Loop),S76 (II),S110,3A (Saturday Only),3B (Saturday Only),3C (Saturday Only),3D (Weekends Only),6A,6B,7A,7B 1999 Orion 05.503: 9908,9928,9932-9933,9935,9939 [6] 2000 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 2000-2001,2004-2005 [4] 2004 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E450: 2402 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5001-5003,5007-5008,5010-5016,5054,5057,5071-5075,5078-5080 [22] 2009 Starcraft Starlite Ford E450: 2947-2948 [2] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1027,1029,1032-1033,1035-1036,1038,1057-1058,1060,1063 [11] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1066-1070,1072,1075 [7] 2017 New Flyer XE35: 7021-7023,7025-7027 [6] ----------------------------------------- 2007 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E450: 2703-2705,2708-2719,2721,2725 (16) 2008 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford Ex50: 2801-2803,2806,2808-2814,2816-2830 (26) 2009 Starcraft Starlite Ford E450: 2901-2946,2949-2951 (49) 2012 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford Ex50: 1201-1204,1206-1222 (21) 2013 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E350: 1301-1328 [28] 2014 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford Ex50: 1401-1409 [9] 2015 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E350: 1501-1511,1513-1542 [41] 2017 Coach and Equitment MetroLite Ford Ex50: 1717-1742 [25] Coram Yard (8 Total) Rotues: S58 (Weekday Only),S62 (Weekday Only) 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5059,5077 [2] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1031,1037,1059,1061-1062 [5] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1073 [1] --------------------------------------------------------- 2013 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford: 1329 [1] Bay Shore Yard (22 Total) Routes: S40 (Weekday Only),S42 (Weekday Only),S45 (Weekday Only), S47(Summer Only),3A (Weekday Only),3B (Weekday Only),3C (Weekday Only),3D (Weekday Only) 1999 Orion 05.504: 9915,9920,9923,9929 [4] 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5004-5006,5009 [4] 2010 Orion 07.502 35ft: 1016-1026,1028,1030 (13) 2010 Orion 07.503 30ft: 1071 [1] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2015 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E350: 1512 [1] EBT Inc (54 total- 37 buses needed weekday, 25 buses needed Saturday, 11 buses needed Sundays) Routes: S1,S20,S23,S25,S27,S29,S31,S33,S41,S54,1A,2A,2B 1999 Orion 05.503: 9913 [1] 2005 Coach and Equipment Metrolite: 2502 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5022-5034,5051-5053,5055-5056,5060 (19) 2008 Gillig Advantage BRT Low Floor: 8001-8004 [4] 2010 Orion 07.501: 1001-1009 [9] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1039-1053,1055-1056 [17] 2017 New Flyer XDE35: 7012,7014-7015,7017 [4] Twin Forks Transit* (27 total - 13 buses needed weekday and Saturday, 7 buses needed Sundays; 14 buses needed Summer Weekdays and Saturdays) Sunrise Coaches Inc. (21 total) Routes: S92,8A 2010 Orion 07.501: 1010-1015 [6] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1065 [1] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1078-1081 [4] 2017 New Flyer XDE40: 7001-7010 (10) Hampton Jitney (6 total) Routes: S94(Summer Only),10B,10C 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5041-5042 [2] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1064 [1] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1074,1076-1077 [3] Total number of Suffolk Transit Buses: 167 * Twin Forks Transit is the contract holder, Sunrise Coach Lines and Hampton Jitney are the sub contractors as well as co-owners of the company. Official Retired Buses (Buses before 1981 were either brought used by the County or were owned by the Private companies and used on routes after the creation of Suffolk Transit) 1959 GM TDH5106: 617 [1] 19xx GM TDH4517: 330,340 [2] 19xx GM xxxxxxx: 92,395,421,435-436 [5] 1960 GM TDH4517: 420 [1] 1960 GM SDH5301: 101 [1] 1960 GM TDH5302: 371 [1] 1961 GM TDH4517: 106 [1] 1962 GM SDH4501: 1334 (Leased from New York Bus Service?) 1962 GM TDH5301: 409 [1] 1963 GM TDH4519: 527 [1] 1963 GM SDH4502: 102 [1] 1964 GM TDH4519: 837 [1] 1964 GM TDH5304: 158 [1] 1965 GM TDH4519: 292-294,840 [4] 1966 GM TDH4519: 108,111,700 [3] 1967 GM TDH4519: 104-105 [2] 1969 GMC T6H4521: 517,528 [2] 1973 GMC T6H4523A: 904,909,917,921,924 [5] 1974 GMC T6H4523A: 124 [1] 1975 Flxible 45096-6-1: 14-15,828-829,836 [5] 1981 New Flyer D901A-10235C: 108-115,119-120,550-557,800-806 (25) 1982 Gillig Phantom 3596TB: 5-13,(5,118-125),7-13,125-127,209,558-562,815-820 (31) 1982 Chance RT52: 1-4,4-6,20-22,113-117,121-124,210-214,807-814,810-812 (37) 1987 Gillig Phantom 35102TB: 701-702,8703-8704,710,8720-8733,740-742,750-760 (33) 1988 Chance RT52: 300-303,320-321,340-341,350-352,880-884 (16) 1991 Gillig Phantom 40102TB: 9100,910-917 [9] 1991 Gillig Phantom 35102TB: 9101-9108,920,930-934,940-941 (16) 1993 Flexible Metro D 30096-6T: 9301-9303,9311-9316,9321-9326,9331-9342 (27) 1996 Gillig Phantom 35102TB: 9600-9617,9620,9630-9636,9641-9655,9660-9661 (43) 1997 Gillig Phantom 3096TB: 9701-9702,9711-9714,9721-9726,9731-9734 (16) 1999 Orion 05.503: 9901-9907,9909-9912,9914,9916-9919,9921-9922,9924-9927,9930-9931,9934,9936-9938,9940-9942 (31) 2000 Gillig Phantom 35TB102 Suburban: 2002-2003 [2] 2005 Gillig Phantom 35102: 5058,5076,5081,5091-5096 [9] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1034,1054 [2] Total Number of Retired Suffolk Transit Buses: 336 Retired SCAT Roster (List in incomplete.) 1993 Unknown Ford E Series: xxxx-xxxx (2, Transferred to Suffolk County PD renumbered 29784-28785) 199x Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford: 1909-1910 [2] 2000 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 94xx,9414,9446,9494 [4] 2002 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2201-2218 [18] 2003 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2301-2315 (15) 2004 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2401-2405,2407-2425 [24] 2006 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2500-2501,2503-2509,2511-2516 (15) 2007 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2701-2702,2706-2707,2709-2710,2720,2722-2724,2726,27xx-27xx (13; #2702 & 2724 transferred to Suffolk County PD) 2008 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2804-2805,2815 (3, 28xx Transferred to Suffolk County Parks Department for Smith Point Park Shuttle) Total Number of Retired SCAT Buses: 96 Official Retired Routes List S35 - (1981-2016) S71 - (2001-2016) S90 - (1981-2016) 1B - (1981-2016) 5A - (1981-2016) 7D - (1981-1990,1992?-2016*) 7E - (1981-1990,1992?-2016*) 10A - (1981-1990,1992?-2016*) 10D - (1981-1990,1992?-2016*) 10E - (1981-1990,1992?-2016*) S74 (1981-1998) S21 (1981-1990) 1C (1981-1990) 9A (1981-1990) S64 (1981-1987?) 4A (1981-1987) 4B (1981-1987) S76 (I) (1984) 7C (1981-19xx) 8B (1981-19xx) Total Number of Retired Routes: 20 Former Operators CBS Lines, Inc (1989-2011) Inter-County Motor Coach (1977-2011) Alert Coach Lines (1977-1978,1981-1994) Coram Bus Service, Inc/Coram Line Service, Inc (1981-1989) The Blue Coach Lines (1981-????) Louis A. Fuoco Bus Service (1981-????) Babylon Transit (1981-????) Lindenhurst Bus Co, Inc (1981-????) Long Island Airport Service (????) MSBA (1973-1975,1977-1981) SeaShore Transit, Inc (1978) Holbrook Transportation Corp (1975-1977) Number of former operators: 12
  9. As of 7/13/17 5021 is OOS due to a accident in Patchouge on 3/20/17 while on the S54 5076 is OOS after being involved in an accident 7/20/15 - Possibly Retired? Para Transit bus 2807 is OOS with Extensive front end damage. 1010 is OOS due to an accident 9/30/15 5058 OOS due to an accident on the LIE on 9/27/16 - Possibly Retired? Para Transit 1205 is OOS after an accident in Riverhead 5081 is OOS due to unknown accident and maybe retired. Possible order over next five years 201x New Flyer XDE35 or XDE40: 43 Buses (Unknown amounts of each model) *2947-2948 transferred to Fix route for use on the 7A (2948 broke down and was replaced by 2947 for the rest of the week, unknown if 2948 was returned to SCAT service) *The 7D/E, 10A, and 10D/E were proposed to be cut in 1990. It is assumed they were cut because another route that was listed with them was mentioned as having been cut but restored a few years later. It is assumed that if they were indeed cut they were restored around or before 1993 as the routes were listed on the 1993 system wide bus map Suffolk Bus Corp (88 total - 58 buses needed weekday, 47 buses needed Saturday, 16 buses needed Sunday; 60 buses needed Summer weekdays, 49 buses needed Summer Saturdays, 18 buses needed Summer Sundays) Ronkonkoma Yard (55 Total) Routes: S40 (Weekends Only),S42 (Saturday Only),S45 (Weekends Only),S56,S57,S58 (Weekends Only),S59,S60,S61,S62 (Saturday Only),S63,S66,S68,S69 (Night Loop),S76 (II),S110,3A (Saturday Only),3B (Saturday Only),3C (Saturday Only),3D (Weekends Only),6A,6B,7A,7B 1999 Orion 05.503: 9908,9928,9932-9933,9935,9939 [6] 2000 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 2000-2001,2004-2005 [4] 2004 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E450: 2402 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5001-5003,5007-5008,5010-5016,5054,5057,5071-5075,5078-5080 [22] 2009 Starcraft Starlite Ford E450: 2947-2948 [2] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1027,1029,1032-1033,1035-1036,1038,1057-1058,1060,1063 [11] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1066-1070,1072,1075 [7] 2017 New Flyer XE35: 7021-7023,7025-7027 [6] ----------------------------------------- 2007 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E450: 2703-2705,2708-2719,2721,2725 (16) 2008 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford Ex50: 2801-2803,2806,2808-2814,2816-2830 (26) 2009 Starcraft Starlite Ford E450: 2901-2946,2949-2951 (49) 2012 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford Ex50: 1201-1204,1206-1222 (21) 2013 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E350: 1301-1328 [28] 2014 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford Ex50: 1401-1409 [9] 2015 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E350: 1501-1511,1513-1542 [41] 2017 Coach and Equitment MetroLite Ford Ex50: 1717-1742 [25] Coram Yard (8 Total) Rotues: S58 (Weekday Only),S62 (Weekday Only) 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5059,5077 [2] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1031,1037,1059,1061-1062 [5] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1073 [1] --------------------------------------------------------- 2013 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford: 1329 [1] Bay Shore Yard (22 Total) Routes: S40 (Weekday Only),S42 (Weekday Only),S45 (Weekday Only), S47(Summer Only),3A (Weekday Only),3B (Weekday Only),3C (Weekday Only),3D (Weekday Only) 1999 Orion 05.504: 9915,9920,9923,9929 [4] 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5004-5006,5009 [4] 2010 Orion 07.502 35ft: 1016-1026,1028,1030 (13) 2010 Orion 07.503 30ft: 1071 [1] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2015 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E350: 1512 [1] EBT Inc (54 total- 37 buses needed weekday, 25 buses needed Saturday, 11 buses needed Sundays) Routes: S1,S20,S23,S25,S27,S29,S31,S33,S41,S54,1A,2A,2B 1999 Orion 05.503: 9913 [1] 2005 Coach and Equipment Metrolite: 2502 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5022-5034,5051-5053,5055-5056,5060 (19) 2008 Gillig Advantage BRT Low Floor: 8001-8004 [4] 2010 Orion 07.501: 1001-1009 [9] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1039-1053,1055-1056 [17] 2017 New Flyer XDE35: 7012,7014-7015,7017 [4] Twin Forks Transit* (25 total - 13 buses needed weekday and Saturday, 7 buses needed Sundays; 14 buses needed Summer Weekdays and Saturdays) Sunrise Coaches Inc. (20 total) Routes: S92,8A 2010 Orion 07.501: 1011-1015 [5] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1065 [1] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1078-1081 [4] 2017 New Flyer XDE40: 7001-7010 (10) Hampton Jitney (6 total) Routes: S94(Summer Only),10B,10C 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5041-5042 [2] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1064 [1] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1074,1076-1077 [3] Total number of Suffolk Transit Buses: 166 * Twin Forks Transit is the contract holder, Sunrise Coach Lines and Hampton Jitney are the sub contractors as well as co-owners of the company. Official Retired Buses (Buses before 1981 were either brought used by the County or were owned by the Private companies and used on routes after the creation of Suffolk Transit) 1959 GM TDH5106: 617 [1] 19xx GM TDH4517: 330,340 [2] 19xx GM xxxxxxx: 92,395,421,435-436 [5] 1960 GM TDH4517: 420 [1] 1960 GM SDH5301: 101 [1] 1960 GM TDH5302: 371 [1] 1961 GM TDH4517: 106 [1] 1962 GM SDH4501: 1334 (Leased from New York Bus Service?) 1962 GM TDH5301: 409 [1] 1963 GM TDH4519: 527 [1] 1963 GM SDH4502: 102 [1] 1964 GM TDH4519: 837 [1] 1964 GM TDH5304: 158 [1] 1965 GM TDH4519: 292-294,840 [4] 1966 GM TDH4519: 108,111,700 [3] 1967 GM TDH4519: 104-105 [2] 1969 GMC T6H4521: 517,528 [2] 1973 GMC T6H4523A: 904,909,917,921,924 [5] 1974 GMC T6H4523A: 124 [1] 1975 Flxible 45096-6-1: 14-15,828-829,836 [5] 1981 New Flyer D901A-10235C: 108-115,119-120,550-557,800-806 (25) 1982 Gillig Phantom 3596TB: 5-13,(5,118-125),7-13,125-127,209,558-562,815-820 (31) 1982 Chance RT52: 1-4,4-6,20-22,113-117,121-124,210-214,807-814,810-812 (37) 1987 Gillig Phantom 35102TB: 701-702,8703-8704,710,8720-8733,740-742,750-760 (33) 1988 Chance RT52: 300-303,320-321,340-341,350-352,880-884 (16) 1991 Gillig Phantom 40102TB: 9100,910-917 [9] 1991 Gillig Phantom 35102TB: 9101-9108,920,930-934,940-941 (16) 1993 Flexible Metro D 30096-6T: 9301-9303,9311-9316,9321-9326,9331-9342 (27) 1996 Gillig Phantom 35102TB: 9600-9617,9620,9630-9636,9641-9655,9660-9661 (43) 1997 Gillig Phantom 3096TB: 9701-9702,9711-9714,9721-9726,9731-9734 (16) 1999 Orion 05.503: 9901-9907,9909-9912,9914,9916-9919,9921-9922,9924-9927,9930-9931,9934,9936-9938,9940-9942 (31) 2000 Gillig Phantom 35TB102 Suburban: 2002-2003 [2] 2005 Gillig Phantom 35102: 5058,5076,5081,5091-5096 [9] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1034,1054 [2] Total Number of Retired Suffolk Transit Buses: 336 Retired SCAT Roster (List in incomplete.) 1993 Unknown Ford E Series: xxxx-xxxx (2, Transferred to Suffolk County PD renumbered 29784-28785) 199x Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford: 1909-1910 [2] 2000 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 94xx,9414,9446,9494 [4] 2002 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2201-2218 [18] 2003 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2301-2315 (15) 2004 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2401-2405,2407-2425 [24] 2006 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2500-2501,2503-2509,2511-2516 (15) 2007 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2701-2702,2706-2707,2709-2710,2720,2722-2724,2726,27xx-27xx (13; #2702 & 2724 transferred to Suffolk County PD) 2008 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2804-2805,2815 (3, 28xx Transferred to Suffolk County Parks Department for Smith Point Park Shuttle) Total Number of Retired SCAT Buses: 96 Official Retired Routes List S35 - (1981-2016) S71 - (2001-2016) S90 - (1981-2016) 1B - (1981-2016) 5A - (1981-2016) 7D - (1981-1990,1992?-2016*) 7E - (1981-1990,1992?-2016*) 10A - (1981-1990,1992?-2016*) 10D - (1981-1990,1992?-2016*) 10E - (1981-1990,1992?-2016*) S74 (1981-1998) S21 (1981-1990) 1C (1981-1990) 9A (1981-1990) S64 (1981-1987?) 4A (1981-1987) 4B (1981-1987) S76 (I) (1984) 7C (1981-19xx) 8B (1981-19xx) Total Number of Retired Routes: 20 Former Operators CBS Lines, Inc (1989-2011) Inter-County Motor Coach (1977-2011) Alert Coach Lines (1977-1978,1981-1994) Coram Bus Service, Inc/Coram Line Service, Inc (1981-1989) The Blue Coach Lines (1981-????) Louis A. Fuoco Bus Service (1981-????) Babylon Transit (1981-????) Lindenhurst Bus Co, Inc (1981-????) Long Island Airport Service (????) MSBA (1973-1975,1977-1981) SeaShore Transit, Inc (1978) Holbrook Transportation Corp (1975-1977) Number of former operators: 12
  10. To me from the way the article was written, Cuomo did this to himself by declaring a state of emergency for the MTA an promising $1 Billion dollars without explaining where such money would be coming from. To me it sounded like had it been announced where the $1 Billion was coming from there wouldn't have been a need for a Possible Veto. Though again that's just my take.
  11. Heard 7023 was in service on the S40 and S68 today. As of 6/25/17 5021 is OOS due to a accident in Patchouge on 3/20/17 while on the S54 5076 is OOS after being involved in an accident 7/20/15 - Possibly Retired? Para Transit bus 2807 is OOS with Extensive front end damage. 1010 is OOS due to an accident 9/30/15 5058 OOS due to an accident on the LIE on 9/27/16 - Possibly Retired? Para Transit 1205 is OOS after an accident in Riverhead 1034 caught fire and is possibly retired. 5081 is OOS due to unknown accident and maybe retired. *Some knucklehead at New Flyer listed Sunrise Coach as operator on all the New Flyer buses. Which was why 7015,7023, and 7027 were listed as being there at first* Possible order over next five years 201x New Flyer XDE35 or XDE40: 43 Buses (Unknown amounts of each model) *2947-2948 transferred to Fix route for use on the 7A (2948 broke down and was replaced by 2947 for the rest of the week, unknown if 2948 was returned to SCAT service) *The 7D/E, 10A, and 10D/E were proposed to be cut in 1990. It is assumed they were cut because another route that was listed with them was mentioned as having been cut but restored a few years later. It is assumed that if they were indeed cut they were restored around or before 1993 as the routes were listed on the 1993 system wide bus map Suffolk Bus Corp (88 total - 58 buses needed weekday, 47 buses needed Saturday, 16 buses needed Sunday; 60 buses needed Summer weekdays, 49 buses needed Summer Saturdays, 18 buses needed Summer Sundays) Ronkonkoma Yard (55 Total) Routes: S40 (Weekends Only),S42 (Saturday Only),S45 (Weekends Only),S56,S57,S58 (Weekends Only),S59,S60,S61,S62 (Saturday Only),S63,S66,S68,S69 (Night Loop),S76,S110,3A (Saturday Only),3B (Saturday Only),3C (Saturday Only),3D (Weekends Only),6A,6B,7A,7B 1999 Orion 05.503: 9908,9928,9932-9933,9935,9939 [6] 2000 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 2000-2001,2004-2005 [4] 2004 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E450: 2402 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5001-5003,5007-5008,5010-5016,5054,5057,5071-5075,5078-5080 [22] 2009 Starcraft Starlite Ford E450: 2947-2948 [2] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1027,1029,1032-1033,1035-1036,1038,1057-1058,1060,1063 [11] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1066-1070,1072,1075 [7] 2017 New Flyer XE35: 7021-7023,7025-7027 [6] ----------------------------------------- 2007 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E450: 2703-2705,2708-2719,2721,2725 (16) 2008 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford Ex50: 2801-2803,2806,2808-2814,2816-2830 (26) 2009 Starcraft Starlite Ford E450: 2901-2946,2949-2951 (49) 2012 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford Ex50: 1201-1204,1206-1222 (21) 2013 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E350: 1301-1328 [28] 2014 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford Ex50: 1401-1409 [9] 2015 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E350: 1501-1511,1513-1542 [41] 2017 Coach and Equitment MetroLite Ford Ex50: 1717-1742 [25] Coram Yard (8 Total) Rotues: S58 (Weekday Only),S62 (Weekday Only) 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5059,5077 [2] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1031,1037,1059,1061-1062 [5] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1073 [1] --------------------------------------------------------- 2013 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford: 1329 [1] Bay Shore Yard (22 Total) Routes: S40 (Weekday Only),S42 (Weekday Only),S45 (Weekday Only), S47(Summer Only),3A (Weekday Only),3B (Weekday Only),3C (Weekday Only),3D (Weekday Only) 1999 Orion 05.504: 9915,9920,9923,9929 [4] 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5004-5006,5009 [4] 2010 Orion 07.502 35ft: 1016-1026,1028,1030 (13) 2010 Orion 07.503 30ft: 1071 [1] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2015 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E350: 1512 [1] EBT Inc (54 total- 37 buses needed weekday, 25 buses needed Saturday, 11 buses needed Sundays) Routes: S1,S20,S23,S25,S27,S29,S31,S33,S41,S54,1A,2A,2B 1999 Orion 05.503: 9913 [1] 2005 Coach and Equipment Metrolite: 2502 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5022-5034,5051-5053,5055-5056,5060 (19) 2008 Gillig Advantage BRT Low Floor: 8001-8004 [4] 2010 Orion 07.501: 1001-1009 [9] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1039-1053,1055-1056 [17] 2017 New Flyer XDE35: 7012,7014-7015,7017 [4] Twin Forks Transit* (25 total - 13 buses needed weekday and Saturday, 7 buses needed Sundays; 14 buses needed Summer Weekdays and Saturdays) Sunrise Coaches Inc. (20 total) Routes: S92,8A 2010 Orion 07.501: 1011-1015 [5] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1065 [1] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1078-1081 [4] 2017 New Flyer XDE40: 7001-7010 (10) Hampton Jitney (6 total) Routes: S94(Summer Only),10B,10C 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5041-5042 [2] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1064 [1] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1074,1076-1077 [3] Total number of Suffolk Transit Buses: 166 * Twin Forks Transit is the contract holder, Sunrise Coach Lines and Hampton Jitney are the sub contractors as well as co-owners of the company. Official Retired Buses (Buses before 1981 were either brought used by the County or were owned by the Private companies and used on routes after the creation of Suffolk Transit) 1959 GM TDH5106: 617 [1] 19xx GM TDH4517: 330,340 [2] 19xx GM xxxxxxx: 92,395,421,435-436 [5] 1960 GM TDH4517: 420 [1] 1960 GM SDH5301: 101 [1] 1960 GM TDH5302: 371 [1] 1961 GM TDH4517: 106 [1] 1962 GM SDH4501: 1334 (Leased from New York Bus Service?) 1962 GM TDH5301: 409 [1] 1963 GM TDH4519: 527 [1] 1963 GM SDH4502: 102 [1] 1964 GM TDH4519: 837 [1] 1964 GM TDH5304: 158 [1] 1965 GM TDH4519: 292-294,840 [4] 1966 GM TDH4519: 108,111,700 [3] 1967 GM TDH4519: 104-105 [2] 1969 GMC T6H4521: 517,528 [2] 1973 GMC T6H4523A: 904,909,917,921,924 [5] 1974 GMC T6H4523A: 124 [1] 1975 Flxible 45096-6-1: 14-15,828-829,836 [5] 1981 New Flyer D901A-10235C: 108-115,119-120,550-557,800-806 (25) 1982 Gillig Phantom 3596TB: 5-13,(5,118-125),7-13,125-127,209,558-562,815-820 (31) 1982 Chance RT52: 1-4,4-6,20-22,113-117,121-124,210-214,807-814,810-812 (37) 1987 Gillig Phantom 35102TB: 701-702,8703-8704,710,8720-8733,740-742,750-760 (33) 1988 Chance RT52: 300-303,320-321,340-341,350-352,880-884 (16) 1991 Gillig Phantom 40102TB: 9100,910-917 [9] 1991 Gillig Phantom 35102TB: 9101-9108,920,930-934,940-941 (16) 1993 Flexible Metro D 30096-6T: 9301-9303,9311-9316,9321-9326,9331-9342 (27) 1996 Gillig Phantom 35102TB: 9600-9617,9620,9630-9636,9641-9655,9660-9661 (43) 1997 Gillig Phantom 3096TB: 9701-9702,9711-9714,9721-9726,9731-9734 (16) 1999 Orion 05.503: 9901-9907,9909-9912,9914,9916-9919,9921-9922,9924-9927,9930-9931,9934,9936-9938,9940-9942 (31) 2000 Gillig Phantom 35TB102 Suburban: 2002-2003 [2] 2005 Gillig Phantom 35102: 5058,5076,5081,5091-5096 [9] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1034,1054 [2] Total Number of Retired Suffolk Transit Buses: 336 Retired SCAT Roster (List in incomplete.) 1993 Unknown Ford E Series: xxxx-xxxx (2, Transferred to Suffolk County PD renumbered 29784-28785) 199x Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford: 1909-1910 [2] 2000 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 94xx,9414,9446,9494 [4] 2002 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2201-2218 [18] 2003 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2301-2315 (15) 2004 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2401-2405,2407-2425 [24] 2006 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2500-2501,2503-2509,2511-2516 (15) 2007 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2701-2702,2706-2707,2709-2710,2720,2722-2724,2726,27xx-27xx (13; #2702 & 2724 transferred to Suffolk County PD) 2008 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2804-2805,2815 (3, 28xx Transferred to Suffolk County Parks Department for Smith Point Park Shuttle) Total Number of Retired SCAT Buses: 96 Official Retired Routes List S35 - (1981-2016) S71 - (2001-2016) S90 - (1981-2016) 1B - (1981-2016) 5A - (1981-2016) 7D/E - (1981-1990,1992?-2016*) 10A - (1981-1990,1992?-2016*) 10D/E - (1981-1990,1992?-2016*) S74 (1981-1998) S21 (1981-1990) 1C (1981-1990) 9A (1981-1990) S64 (1981-1987?) Total Number of Retired Routes: 15 Former Operators CBS Lines, Inc (1989-2011) Inter-County Motor Coach (1977-2011) Alert Coach Lines (1977-1978,1981-1994) Coram Bus Service, Inc/Coram Line Service, Inc (1981-1989) The Blue Coach Lines (1981-????) Louis A. Fuoco Bus Service (1981-????) Babylon Transit (1981-????) Lindenhurst Bus Co, Inc (1981-????) Long Island Airport Service (????) MSBA (1973-1975,1977-1981) SeaShore Transit, Inc (1978) Holbrook Transportation Corp (1975-1977) Number of former operators: 12
  12. Probably didn't wrap it because the buses will probably end up with ad warps soon anyway. Something tells me a wrap on a wrap wouldn't work so well.
  13. Yeah but it's probably better then a plain white roof. Not to mention probably cheaper. Remember after having to ax 10 routes, even though they had low ridership and there fore expensive to operate, they can't go about ordering buses with new expensive paint schemes. It will have people asking 'why didn't you just order buses with an less expensive paint scheme and keep any left over money to fund some service on the routes that were cut?' They could defend themselves on buying buses by saying that the money for the base order, of 30 buses, was put away before the money crunching or that buy saving the money on operations that they had enough to buy the buses. Also they could say they got help from the State or Federal Government to help offset the cost of the new buses.
  14. They look neat. Gee #7017 has been busy. It was spotted early last week or the week before on the S41.
  15. I remember back when NICE was formed people said the MTA had the power to take back the Orion V's, and Orion VII's because they had brought them and therefore owned them. (Ownership of those buses was a big debate if I recall) It was said, either at that time or the last time the topic was brought up, that the MTA DID NOT have the power to take back the buses because they were brought with some type of funding that said they had to be used in Nassau County. (I mean one would think if the MTA had the power to reposes the Orion V's and Orion VII's they would have taken them with them when they left)
  16. According to Hound on BusChat (I don't remember if he is a member here) the MTA is planning on using the RVC Depot for the 200 buses as part of their plan to limit the impact on the LIRR ridership because of Amtraks work at Penn Station. Not sure if its the truth or if that is what Powerli was talking about.
  17. Not much that I'm aware of. I know there is one on Instagram of #7015 at a gas station in NJ I believe. Also heard there were photos of #7023 and &027 on Facebook though I haven't been able to find them. There is a few in a video someone too at SBC's Ronkonkoma Yard on Youtube.
  18. As of 6/9/17 5021 is OOS due to a accident in Patchouge on 3/20/17 while on the S54 5076 is OOS after being involved in an accident 7/20/15 - Possibly Retired? Para Transit bus 2807 is OOS with Extensive front end damage. 1010 is OOS due to an accident 9/30/15 5058 OOS due to an accident on the LIE on 9/27/16 - Possibly Retired? Para Transit 1205 is OOS after an accident in Riverhead 1034 caught fire and is possibly retired. 5081 is OOS due to unknown accident and maybe retired. *Some knucklehead at New Flyer listed Sunrise Coach as operator on all the New Flyer buses. Which was why 7015,7023, and 7027 were listed as being there at first* Possible order over next five years 201x New Flyer XDE35 or XDE40: 43 Buses (Unknown amounts of each model) *2947-2948 transferred to Fix route for use on the 7A (2948 broke down and was replaced by 2947 for the rest of the week, unknown if 2948 was returned to SCAT service) *The 7D/E, 10A, and 10D/E were proposed to be cut in 1990. It is assumed they were cut because another route that was listed with them was mentioned as having been cut but restored a few years later. It is assumed that if they were indeed cut they were restored around or before 1993 as the routes were listed on the 1993 system wide bus map Suffolk Bus Corp (87 total - 58 buses needed weekday, 47 buses needed Saturday, 16 buses needed Sunday; 60 buses needed Summer weekdays, 49 buses needed Summer Saturdays, 18 buses needed Summer Sundays) Ronkonkoma Yard (54 Total) Routes: S40 (Weekends Only),S42 (Saturday Only),S45 (Weekends Only),S56,S57,S58 (Weekends Only),S59,S60,S61,S62 (Saturday Only),S63,S66,S68,S69 (Night Loop),S76,S110,3A (Saturday Only),3B (Saturday Only),3C (Saturday Only),3D (Weekends Only),6A,6B,7A,7B 1999 Orion 05.503: 9908,9928,9932-9933,9935,9939 [6] 2000 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 2000-2001,2004-2005 [4] 2004 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E450: 2402 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5001-5003,5007-5008,5010-5016,5054,5057,5071-5075,5078-5080 [22] 2009 Starcraft Starlite Ford E450: 2947-2948 [2] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1027,1029,1032-1033,1035-1036,1038,1057-1058,1060,1063 [11] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1066-1070,1072,1075 [7] 2017 New Flyer XE35: 7021,7023,7025-7027 [5] ----------------------------------------- 2007 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E450: 2703-2705,2708-2719,2721,2725 (16) 2008 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford Ex50: 2801-2803,2806,2808-2814,2816-2830 (26) 2009 Starcraft Starlite Ford E450: 2901-2946,2949-2951 (49) 2012 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford Ex50: 1201-1204,1206-1222 (21) 2013 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E350: 1301-1328 [28] 2014 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford Ex50: 1401-1409 [9] 2015 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E350: 1501-1511,1513-1542 [41] 2017 Coach and Equitment MetroLite Ford Ex50: 1717-1742 [25] Coram Yard (8 Total) Rotues: S58 (Weekday Only),S62 (Weekday Only) 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5059,5077 [2] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1031,1037,1059,1061-1062 [5] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1073 [1] --------------------------------------------------------- 2013 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford: 1329 [1] Bay Shore Yard (22 Total) Routes: S40 (Weekday Only),S42 (Weekday Only),S45 (Weekday Only), S47(Summer Only),3A (Weekday Only),3B (Weekday Only),3C (Weekday Only),3D (Weekday Only) 1999 Orion 05.504: 9915,9920,9923,9929 [4] 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5004-5006,5009 [4] 2010 Orion 07.502 35ft: 1016-1026,1028,1030 (13) 2010 Orion 07.503 30ft: 1071 [1] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2015 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E350: 1512 [1] EBT Inc (54 total- 37 buses needed weekday, 25 buses needed Saturday, 11 buses needed Sundays) Routes: S1,S20,S23,S25,S27,S29,S31,S33,S41,S54,1A,2A,2B 1999 Orion 05.503: 9913 [1] 2005 Coach and Equipment Metrolite: 2502 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5022-5034,5051-5053,5055-5056,5060 (19) 2008 Gillig Advantage BRT Low Floor: 8001-8004 [4] 2010 Orion 07.501: 1001-1009 [9] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1039-1053,1055-1056 [17] 2017 New Flyer XDE35: 7012,7014-7015,7017 [4] Twin Forks Transit* (25 total - 13 buses needed weekday and Saturday, 7 buses needed Sundays; 14 buses needed Summer Weekdays and Saturdays) Sunrise Coaches Inc. (20 total) Routes: S92,8A 2010 Orion 07.501: 1011-1015 [5] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1065 [1] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1078-1081 [4] 2017 New Flyer XDE40: 7001-7010 (10) Hampton Jitney (6 total) Routes: S94(Summer Only),10B,10C 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5041-5042 [2] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1064 [1] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1074,1076-1077 [3] Total number of Suffolk Transit Buses: 165 * Twin Forks Transit is the contract holder, Sunrise Coach Lines and Hampton Jitney are the sub contractors as well as co-owners of the company. Official Retired Buses (Buses before 1981 were either brought used by the County or were owned by the Private companies and used on routes after the creation of Suffolk Transit) 1959 GM TDH5106: 617 [1] 19xx GM TDH4517: 330,340 [2] 19xx GM xxxxxxx: 92,395,421,435-436 [5] 1960 GM TDH4517: 420 [1] 1960 GM SDH5301: 101 [1] 1960 GM TDH5302: 371 [1] 1961 GM TDH4517: 106 [1] 1962 GM SDH4501: 1334 (Leased from New York Bus Service?) 1962 GM TDH5301: 409 [1] 1963 GM TDH4519: 527 [1] 1963 GM SDH4502: 102 [1] 1964 GM TDH4519: 837 [1] 1964 GM TDH5304: 158 [1] 1965 GM TDH4519: 292-294,840 [4] 1966 GM TDH4519: 108,111,700 [3] 1967 GM TDH4519: 104-105 [2] 1969 GMC T6H4521: 517,528 [2] 1973 GMC T6H4523A: 904,909,917,921,924 [5] 1974 GMC T6H4523A: 124 [1] 1975 Flxible 45096-6-1: 14-15,828-829,836 [5] 1981 New Flyer D901A-10235C: 108-115,119-120,550-557,800-806 (25) 1982 Gillig Phantom 3596TB: 5-13,(5,118-125),7-13,125-127,209,558-562,815-820 (31) 1982 Chance RT52: 1-4,4-6,20-22,113-117,121-124,210-214,807-814,810-812 (37) 1987 Gillig Phantom 35102TB: 701-702,8703-8704,710,8720-8733,740-742,750-760 (33) 1988 Chance RT52: 300-303,320-321,340-341,350-352,880-884 (16) 1991 Gillig Phantom 40102TB: 9100,910-917 [9] 1991 Gillig Phantom 35102TB: 9101-9108,920,930-934,940-941 (16) 1993 Flexible Metro D 30096-6T: 9301-9303,9311-9316,9321-9326,9331-9342 (27) 1996 Gillig Phantom 35102TB: 9600-9617,9620,9630-9636,9641-9655,9660-9661 (43) 1997 Gillig Phantom 3096TB: 9701-9702,9711-9714,9721-9726,9731-9734 (16) 1999 Orion 05.503: 9901-9907,9909-9912,9914,9916-9919,9921-9922,9924-9927,9930-9931,9934,9936-9938,9940-9942 (31) 2000 Gillig Phantom 35TB102 Suburban: 2002-2003 [2] 2005 Gillig Phantom 35102: 5058,5076,5081,5091-5096 [9] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1034,1054 [2] Total Number of Retired Suffolk Transit Buses: 336 Retired SCAT Roster (List in incomplete.) 1993 Unknown Ford E Series: xxxx-xxxx (2, Transferred to Suffolk County PD renumbered 29784-28785) 199x Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford: 1909-1910 [2] 2000 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 94xx,9414,9446,9494 [4] 2002 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2201-2218 [18] 2003 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2301-2315 (15) 2004 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2401-2405,2407-2425 [24] 2006 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2500-2501,2503-2509,2511-2516 (15) 2007 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2701-2702,2706-2707,2709-2710,2720,2722-2724,2726,27xx-27xx (13; #2702 & 2724 transferred to Suffolk County PD) 2008 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2804-2805,2815 (3, 28xx Transferred to Suffolk County Parks Department for Smith Point Park Shuttle) Total Number of Retired SCAT Buses: 96 Official Retired Routes List S35 - (1981-2016) S71 - (2001-2016) S90 - (1981-2016) 1B - (1981-2016) 5A - (1981-2016) 7D/E - (1981-1990,1992?-2016*) 10A - (1981-1990,1992?-2016*) 10D/E - (1981-1990,1992?-2016*) S74 (1981-1998) S21 (1981-1990) 1C (1981-1990) 9A (1981-1990) S64 (1981-1987?) Total Number of Retired Routes: 15 Former Operators CBS Lines, Inc (1989-2011) Inter-County Motor Coach (1977-2011) Alert Coach Lines (1977-1978,1981-1994) Coram Bus Service, Inc/Coram Line Service, Inc (1981-1989) The Blue Coach Lines (1981-????) Louis A. Fuoco Bus Service (1981-????) Babylon Transit (1981-????) Lindenhurst Bus Co, Inc (1981-????) Long Island Airport Service (????) MSBA (1973-1975,1977-1981) SeaShore Transit, Inc (1978) Holbrook Transportation Corp (1975-1977) Number of former operators: 12
  19. As of 5/24/17 5021 is OOS after being involved in an accident 3/20/17 in Patchouge on the S54 (http://www.newsday.c...gue-1.13291135) 5076 is OOS after being involved in an accident 7/20/15 - Possibly retired? Para Transit bus 2807 is OOS with Extensive front end damage. 1010 is OOS due to an accident 9/30/15 5058 is OOS due to an accident on the LIE on 9/27/16 - Possibly retired? Para Transit bus 1205 is OOS due to an accident in Riverhead 11/4/16 1034 caught fire and is possibly retired. 5081 is OOS due to unkown accident and maybe retired. On Order 201x New Flyer XDE40: 10 Buses (70xx-70xx?) 201x New Flyer XDE35: 20 Buses (70xx-70xx?) Option Orders 43 Buses of either XDE35 or XDE40 *2947-2948 transferred to Fix route for use on the 7A (2948 broke down and was replaced by 2947 for the rest of the week, unknown if 2948 was returned to SCAT service) *The 7D/E, 10A, and 10D/E were proposed to be cut in 1990. It is assumed they were cut because another route that was listed with them was mentioned as having been cut but restored a few years later. It is assumed that if they were indeed cut they were restored around or before 1993 as the routes were listed on the 1993 system wide bus map Suffolk Bus Corp (82 total - 58 buses needed weekday, 47 buses needed Saturday, 16 buses needed Sunday; 60 buses needed Summer weekdays, 49 buses needed Summer Saturdays, 18 buses needed Summer Sundays) Ronkonkoma Yard (46 Total) Routes: S40 (Weekends Only),S42 (Saturday Only),S45 (Weekends Only),S56,S57,S58 (Weekends Only),S59,S60,S61,S62(Saturdays Only),S63,S66,S68,S69 (Night Loop),S76,S110,3A (Saturdays Only),3B (Saturdays Only),3C (Saturday Only),3D (Weekends Only),6A,6B,7A,7B 1999 Orion 05.503: 9908,9932-9933,9935,9939 [5] 2000 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 2000-2001,2005 [3] 2004 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E450: 2402 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5001-5003,5007-5008,5010-5012,5014-5016,5054,5057,5071-5075,5078-5080 [21] 2009 Starcraft Starlite Ford E450: 2947-2948 [2] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1029,1032-1033,1035-1036,1038,1057-1058,1060,1063 [10] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1066-1070,1072,1075 [7] ----------------------------------------- 2007 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E-450: 2702-2705,2708-2719,2721,2725 (16) 2008 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford : 2801-2803,2806,2808-2814,2816-2830 (26) 2009 Starcraft Starlite Ford E450: 2901-2946,2949-2951 (49) 2012 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford: 1201-1204,1206-1222 (21) 2013 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford:1301-1328 [28] 2014 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford: 1401-1409 [9] 2015 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E350: 1501-1511,1513-1539 [38] 2017 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford Ex50: 1717,1723-1724 [3] Coram Yard (9 Total) Rotues: S58,S62 2000 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 2004 [1] 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5059,5077 [2] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1031,1037,1059,1061-1062 [5] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1073 [1] --------------------------------------------------------- 2013 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford: 1329 [1] Bay Shore Yard (25 Total) Routes: S40,S42,S45,S47(Summer Only),3A,3B,3C,3D 1999 Orion 05.504: 9915,9920,9923,9928-9929 [5] 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5004-5006,5009,5013 [5] 2010 Orion 07.502 35ft: 1016-1028,1030 (14) 2010 Orion 07.503 30ft: 1071 [1] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2015 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E350: 1512 [1] EBT Inc (50 total- 36 buses needed weekday, 25 buses needed Saturday, 11 buses needed Sundays) Routes: S1,S20,S23,S25,S27,S29,S31,S33,S41,S54,1A,2A,2B 1999 Orion 05.503: 9913 [1] 2005 Coach and Equipment Metrolite: 2502 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5022-5034,5051-5053,5055-5056,5060 (19) 2008 Gillig Advantage BRT Low Floor: 8001-8004 [4] 2010 Orion 07.501 40ft: 1001-1009 [9] 2010 Orion 07.502 35ft: 1039-1053,1055-1056 [17] Twin Forks Transit* (24 total - 16 buses needed weekday and Saturday, 7 buses needed Sundays; 17 buses needed Summer Weekdays and Saturdays) Sunrise Coaches Inc. (18 total) Routes: S92,8A 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5091-5096 [6] 2010 Orion 07.501: 1011-1015 [5] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1065 [1] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1078-1081 [4] 2017 New Flyer XDE40: 7001,7008 [2] Hampton Jitney (6 total) Routes: S94(Summer Only),10B,10C 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5041-5042 [2] 2010 Orion 07.502 35ft: 1064 [1] 2010 Orion 07.503 30ft: 1074,1076-1077 [3] Total number of Suffolk Transit Buses: 152 * Twin Forks Transit is the contract holder, Sunrise Coach Lines and Hampton Jitney are the sub contractors as well as co-owners of the company. Official Retired Buses (Buses before 1981 were either brought used by the County or were owned by the Private companies and used on routes after the creation of Suffolk Transit) 1959 GM TDH5106: 617 [1] 19xx GM TDH4517: 330,340 [2] 19xx GM xxxxxxx: 92,395,421,435-436 [5] 1960 GM TDH4517: 420 [1] 1960 GM SDH5301: 101 [1] 1960 GM TDH5302: 371 [1] 1961 GM TDH4517: 106 [1] 1962 GM SDH4501: 1334 (Leased from New York Bus Service?) 1962 GM TDH5301: 409 [1] 1963 GM TDH4519: 527 [1] 1963 GM SDH4502: 102 [1] 1964 GM TDH4519: 837 [1] 1964 GM TDH5304: 158 [1] 1965 GM TDH4519: 292-294,840 [4] 1966 GM TDH4519: 108,111,700 [3] 1967 GM TDH4519: 104-105 [2] 1969 GMC T6H4521: 517,528 [2] 1973 GMC T6H4523A: 904,909,917,921,924 [5] 1974 GMC T6H4523A: 124 [1] 1975 Flxible 45096-6-1: 14-15,828-829,836 [5] 1981 New Flyer D901A-10235C: 108-115,119-120,550-557,800-806 (25) 1982 Gillig Phantom 3596TB: 5-13,(5,118-125),7-13,125-127,209,558-562,815-820 (31) 1982 Chance RT52: 1-4,4-6,20-22,113-117,121-124,210-214,807-814,810-812 (37) 1987 Gillig Phantom 35102TB: 701-702,8703-8704,710,8720-8733,740-742,750-760 (33) 1988 Chance RT52: 300-303,320-321,340-341,350-352,880-884 (16) 1991 Gillig Phantom 40102TB: 9100,910-917 [9] 1991 Gillig Phantom 35102TB: 9101-9108,920,930-934,940-941 (16) 1993 Flexible Metro D 30096-6T: 9301-9303,9311-9316,9321-9326,9331-9342 (27) 1996 Gillig Phantom 35102TB: 9600-9617,9620,9630-9636,9641-9655,9660-9661 (43) 1997 Gillig Phantom 3096TB: 9701-9702,9711-9714,9721-9726,9731-9734 (16) 1999 Orion 05.503: 9901-9907,9909-9912,9914,9916-9919,9921-9922,9924-9927,9930-9931,9934,9936-9938,9940-9942 (31) 2000 Gillig Phantom 35TB102 Suburban: 2002-2003 [2] 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5059,5076,5081 [3] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1034,1054 [2] Total Number of Retired Suffolk Transit Buses: 330 Retired SCAT bus list (List in incomplete.) 1993 Unknown Ford E Series: xxxx-xxxx (2, Transferred to Suffolk County PD renumbered 29784-28785) 199x Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford: 1909-1910 [2] 2000 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 94xx,9414,9446,9494 [4] 2002 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2201-2218 [18] 2003 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2301-2315 (15) 2004 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2401-2405,2407-2425 [24] 2006 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E450: 2500-2501,2503-2509,2511-2516 (15) 2007 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2701,2706-2707,2709-2710,2720,2722-2724,2726,27xx-27xx (12, 2724-27xx buses transferred to Suffolk County PD) 2008 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2804-2805,2815 [3] Total Number of Retired SCAT Buses: 96 Official Retired Routes List S71 (2001-2016) S35 (1981-2016) S90 (1981-2016) 1B (1981-2016) 5A (1981-2016) 7D/E (1981-1990,1992?-2016)* 10A (1981-1990,1992?-2016)* 10D/E (1981-1990,1992?-2016)* S74 (1981-1998) S21 (1981-1990) 1C (1981-1990) 9A (1981-1990) S64 (1981-1987?)+ +The Port Jefferson Station to Coram portion of the S64 was folded into the S60 Total Number of Retired Routes: 15 Official list of Former Operators CBS Lines, Inc (1989-2011) Inter-County Motor Coach (1977-2011) Coram Bus Service, Inc (1981-1989) The Blue Coach Lines (1981-????) Louis A. Fuoco Bus Service (1981-????) Babylon Transit (1981-????) Lindenhurst Bus Co, Inc (1981-????) Long Island Airport Service (????) Seashore Transit, Inc (1978) Alert Coach Lines (1977-1978,1981-1994) Four Season Bus Service/Holbrook Transportation (1975-1977) MSBA (1973-1975,1977-1981) Number of former operators: 12
  20. You do realize that those drivers could have legitimately been sick. While it does seem odd, it isn't uncommon for an illness to spread through a work place and cause multiple workers to be out at once. I mean would you want a driver behind the wheel who is too ill to be there.
  21. As of 5/3/17 5021 is OOS after being involved in an accident 3/20/17 in Patchouge on the S54 (http://www.newsday.c...gue-1.13291135) 5076 is OOS after being involved in an accident 7/20/15 - Possibly retired? Para Transit bus 2807 is OOS with Extensive front end damage. 1010 is OOS due to an accident 9/30/15 5058 is OOS due to an accident on the LIE on 9/27/16 - Possibly retired? Para Transit bus 1205 is OOS due to an accident in Riverhead 11/4/16 1034 caught fire and is possibly retired. 5081 is OOS due to unkown accident and maybe retired. On Order 2017 Coach and Equitment MetroLite: Ford Ex50: 170x-1712 (Awaiting Delivery. Only ones seen so far) 201x New Flyer XDE40: 10 Buses (70xx-70xx?) 201x New Flyer XDE35: 20 Buses (70xx-70xx?) Option Orders 43 Buses of either XDE35 or XDE40 *7001 has been delivered but as of 5/3/17 has not entered service, when it does it will be assigned to Sunrise Coach Lines* *2947-2948 transferred to Fix route for use on the 7A (2948 broke down and was replaced by 2947 for the rest of the week, unknown if 2948 was returned to SCAT service) *The 7D/E, 10A, and 10D/E were proposed to be cut in 1990. It is assumed they were cut because another route that was listed with them was mentioned as having been cut but restored a few years later. It is assumed that if they were indeed cut they were restored around or before 1993 as the routes were listed on the 1993 system wide bus map Suffolk Bus Corp (82 total - 58 buses needed weekday, 47 buses needed Saturday, 16 buses needed Sunday; 60 buses needed Summer weekdays, 49 buses needed Summer Saturdays, 18 buses needed Summer Sundays) Ronkonkoma Yard (46 Total) Routes: S40 (Weekends Only),S42 (Saturday Only),S45 (Weekends Only),S56,S57,S58 (Weekends Only),S59,S60,S61,S62(Saturdays Only),S63,S66,S68,S69 (Night Loop),S76,S110,3A (Saturdays Only),3B (Saturdays Only),3C (Saturday Only),3D (Weekends Only),6A,6B,7A,7B 1999 Orion 05.503: 9908,9932-9933,9935,9939 [5] 2000 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 2000-2001,2005 [3] 2004 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E450: 2402 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5001-5003,5007-5008,5010-5012,5014-5016,5054,5057,5071-5075,5078-5080 [21] 2009 Starcraft Starlite Ford E450: 2947-2948 [2] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1029,1032-1033,1035-1036,1038,1057-1058,1060,1063 [10] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1066-1070,1072,1075 [7] ----------------------------------------- 2007 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E-450: 2702-2705,2708-2719,2721,2725 (16) 2008 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford : 2801-2803,2806,2808-2814,2816-2830 (26) 2009 Starcraft Starlite Ford E450: 2901-2946,2949-2951 (49) 2012 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford: 1201-1204,1206-1222 (21) 2013 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford:1301-1328 [28] 2014 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford: 1401-1409 [9] 2015 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E350: 1501-1511,1513-1539 [38] 2017 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford Ex50: 1717,1723-1724 [3] Coram Yard (9 Total) Rotues: S58,S62 2000 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 2004 [1] 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5059,5077 [2] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1031,1037,1059,1061-1062 [5] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1073 [1] --------------------------------------------------------- 2013 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford: 1329 [1] Bay Shore Yard (25 Total) Routes: S40,S42,S45,S47(Summer Only),3A,3B,3C,3D 1999 Orion 05.504: 9915,9920,9923,9928-9929 [5] 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5004-5006,5009,5013 [5] 2010 Orion 07.502 35ft: 1016-1028,1030 (14) 2010 Orion 07.503 30ft: 1071 [1] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2015 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E350: 1512 [1] EBT Inc (50 total- 36 buses needed weekday, 25 buses needed Saturday, 11 buses needed Sundays) Routes: S1,S20,S23,S25,S27,S29,S31,S33,S41,S54,1A,2A,2B 1999 Orion 05.503: 9913 [1] 2005 Coach and Equipment Metrolite: 2502 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5022-5034,5051-5053,5055-5056,5060 (19) 2008 Gillig Advantage BRT Low Floor: 8001-8004 [4] 2010 Orion 07.501 40ft: 1001-1009 [9] 2010 Orion 07.502 35ft: 1039-1053,1055-1056 [17] Twin Forks Transit* (23 total - 16 buses needed weekday and Saturday, 7 buses needed Sundays; 17 buses needed Summer Weekdays and Saturdays) Sunrise Coaches Inc. (17 total) Routes: S92,8A 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5091-5096 [6] 2010 Orion 07.501: 1011-1015 [5] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1065 [1] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1078-1081 [4] 2017 New Flyer XDE40: 7001 [1] Hampton Jitney (6 total) Routes: S94(Summer Only),10B,10C 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5041-5042 [2] 2010 Orion 07.502 35ft: 1064 [1] 2010 Orion 07.503 30ft: 1074,1076-1077 [3] Total number of Suffolk Transit Buses: 152 * Twin Forks Transit is the contract holder, Sunrise Coach Lines and Hampton Jitney are the sub contractors as well as co-owners of the company. Official Retired Buses (Buses before 1981 were either brought used by the County or were owned by the Private companies and used on routes after the creation of Suffolk Transit) 1959 GM TDH5106: 617 [1] 19xx GM TDH4517: 330,340 [2] 19xx GM xxxxxxx: 92,395,421,435-436 [5] 1960 GM TDH4517: 420 [1] 1960 GM SDH5301: 101 [1] 1960 GM TDH5302: 371 [1] 1961 GM TDH4517: 106 [1] 1962 GM SDH4501: 1334 (Leased from New York Bus Service?) 1962 GM TDH5301: 409 [1] 1963 GM TDH4519: 527 [1] 1963 GM SDH4502: 102 [1] 1964 GM TDH4519: 837 [1] 1964 GM TDH5304: 158 [1] 1965 GM TDH4519: 292-294,840 [4] 1966 GM TDH4519: 108,111,700 [3] 1967 GM TDH4519: 104-105 [2] 1969 GMC T6H4521: 517,528 [2] 1973 GMC T6H4523A: 904,909,917,921,924 [5] 1974 GMC T6H4523A: 124 [1] 1975 Flxible 45096-6-1: 14-15,828-829,836 [5] 1981 New Flyer D901A-10235C: 108-115,119-120,550-557,800-806 (25) 1982 Gillig Phantom 3596TB: 5-13,(5,118-125),7-13,125-127,209,558-562,815-820 (31) 1982 Chance RT52: 1-4,4-6,20-22,113-117,121-124,210-214,807-814,810-812 (37) 1987 Gillig Phantom 35102TB: 701-702,8703-8704,710,8720-8733,740-742,750-760 (33) 1988 Chance RT52: 300-303,320-321,340-341,350-352,880-884 (16) 1991 Gillig Phantom 40102TB: 9100,910-917 [9] 1991 Gillig Phantom 35102TB: 9101-9108,920,930-934,940-941 (16) 1993 Flexible Metro D 30096-6T: 9301-9303,9311-9316,9321-9326,9331-9342 (27) 1996 Gillig Phantom 35102TB: 9600-9617,9620,9630-9636,9641-9655,9660-9661 (43) 1997 Gillig Phantom 3096TB: 9701-9702,9711-9714,9721-9726,9731-9734 (16) 1999 Orion 05.503: 9901-9907,9909-9912,9914,9916-9919,9921-9922,9924-9927,9930-9931,9934,9936-9938,9940-9942 (31) 2000 Gillig Phantom 35TB102 Suburban: 2002-2003 [2] 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5059,5076,5081 [3] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1034,1054 [2] Total Number of Retired Suffolk Transit Buses: 330 Retired SCAT bus list (List in incomplete.) 1993 Unknown Ford E Series: xxxx-xxxx (2, Transferred to Suffolk County PD renumbered 29784-28785) 199x Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford: 1909-1910 [2] 2000 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 94xx,9414,9446,9494 [4] 2002 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2201-2218 [18] 2003 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2301-2315 (15) 2004 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2401-2405,2407-2425 [24] 2006 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E450: 2500-2501,2503-2509,2511-2516 (15) 2007 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2701,2706-2707,2709-2710,2720,2722-2724,2726,27xx-27xx (12, 2724-27xx buses transferred to Suffolk County PD) 2008 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2804-2805,2815 [3] Total Number of Retired SCAT Buses: 96 Official Retired Routes List S71 (2001-2016) S35 (1981-2016) S90 (1981-2016) 1B (1981-2016) 5A (1981-2016) 7D/E (1981-1990,1992?-2016)* 10A (1981-1990,1992?-2016)* 10D/E (1981-1990,1992?-2016)* S74 (1981-1998) S21 (1981-1990) 1C (1981-1990) 9A (1981-1990) S64 (1981-1987?)+ +The Port Jefferson Station to Coram portion of the S64 was folded into the S60 Total Number of Retired Routes: 15 Official list of Former Operators CBS Lines, Inc (1989-2011) Inter-County Motor Coach (1977-2011) Coram Bus Service, Inc (1981-1989) The Blue Coach Lines (1981-????) Louis A. Fuoco Bus Service (1981-????) Babylon Transit (1981-????) Lindenhurst Bus Co, Inc (1981-????) Long Island Airport Service (????) Seashore Transit, Inc (1978) Alert Coach Lines (1977-1978,1981-1994) Four Season Bus Service/Holbrook Transportation (1975-1977) MSBA (1973-1975,1977-1981) Number of former operators: 12
  22. As of 4/29/17 5021 is OOS after being involved in an accident 3/20/17 in Patchouge on the S54 (http://www.newsday.c...gue-1.13291135) 5076 is OOS after being involved in an accident 7/20/15 - Possibly retired? Para Transit bus 2807 is OOS with Extensive front end damage. 1010 is OOS due to an accident 9/30/15 5058 is OOS due to an accident on the LIE on 9/27/16 - Possibly retired? Para Transit bus 1205 is OOS due to an accident in Riverhead 11/4/16 1034 caught fire and is possibly retired. 5081 is OOS due to unkown accident and maybe retired. On Order 2017 Coach and Equitment MetroLite: Ford Ex50: 170x-1712 (Awaiting Delivery. Only ones seen so far) 201x New Flyer XDE40: 10 Buses (70xx-70xx?) 201x New Flyer XDE35: 20 Buses (70xx-70xx?) Option Orders 43 Buses of either XDE35 or XDE40 *5053 shown in video on 2/23/17 having returned to service* *2947-2948 transferred to Fix route for use on the 7A (2948 broke down and was replaced by 2947 for the rest of the week, unknown if 2948 was returned to SCAT service) *The 7D/E, 10A, and 10D/E were proposed to be cut in 1990. It is assumed they were cut because another route that was listed with them was mentioned as having been cut but restored a few years later. It is assumed that if they were indeed cut they were restored around or before 1993 as the routes were listed on the 1993 system wide bus map Suffolk Bus Corp (82 total - 58 buses needed weekday, 47 buses needed Saturday, 16 buses needed Sunday; 60 buses needed Summer weekdays, 49 buses needed Summer Saturdays, 18 buses needed Summer Sundays) Ronkonkoma Yard (46 Total) Routes: S40 (Weekends Only),S42 (Saturday Only),S45 (Weekends Only),S56,S57,S58 (Weekends Only),S59,S60,S61,S62 (Saturdays Only),S63,S66,S68,S69 (Night Loop),S76,S110,3A (Saturdays Only),3B (Saturdays Only),3C (Saturday Only),3D (Weekends Only),6A,6B,7A,7B 1999 Orion 05.503: 9908,9932-9933,9935,9939 [5] 2000 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 2000-2001,2005 [3] 2004 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E450: 2402 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5001-5003,5007-5008,5010-5012,5014-5016,5054,5057,5071-5075,5078-5080 [21] 2009 Starcraft Starlite Ford E450: 2947-2948 [2] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1029,1032-1033,1035-1036,1038,1057-1058,1060,1063 [10] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1066-1070,1072,1075 [7] ----------------------------------------- 2007 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E-450: 2702-2705,2708-2719,2721,2725 (16) 2008 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford : 2801-2803,2806,2808-2814,2816-2830 (26) 2009 Starcraft Starlite Ford E450: 2901-2946,2949-2951 (49) 2012 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford: 1201-1204,1206-1222 (21) 2013 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford:1301-1328 [28] 2014 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford: 1401-1409 [9] 2015 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E350: 1501-1511,1513-1539 [38] 2017 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford Ex50: 1723-1724 [2] Coram Yard (9 Total) Rotues: S58,S62 2000 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 2004 [1] 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5059,5077 [2] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1031,1037,1059,1061-1062 [5] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1073 [1] --------------------------------------------------------- 2013 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford: 1329 [1] Bay Shore Yard (25 Total) Routes: S40,S42,S45,S47(Summer Only),3A,3B,3C,3D 1999 Orion 05.504: 9915,9920,9923,9928-9929 [5] 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5004-5006,5009,5013 [5] 2010 Orion 07.502 35ft: 1016-1028,1030 (14) 2010 Orion 07.503 30ft: 1071 [1] ------------------------------------------------------------------------------------ 2015 Coach and Equipment Metro Lite Ford E350: 1512 [1] EBT Inc (50 total- 36 buses needed weekday, 25 buses needed Saturday, 11 buses needed Sundays) Routes: S1,S20,S23,S25,S27,S29,S31,S33,S41,S54,1A,2A,2B 1999 Orion 05.503: 9913 [1] 2005 Coach and Equipment Metrolite: 2502 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5022-5034,5051-5053,5055-5056,5060 (19) 2008 Gillig Advantage BRT Low Floor: 8001-8004 [4] 2010 Orion 07.501 40ft: 1001-1009 [9] 2010 Orion 07.502 35ft: 1039-1053,1055-1056 [17] Twin Forks Transit* (22 total - 16 buses needed weekday and Saturday, 7 buses needed Sundays; 17 buses needed Summer Weekdays and Saturdays) Sunrise Coaches Inc. (16 total) Routes: S92,8A 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5091-5096 [6] 2010 Orion 07.501: 1011-1015 [5] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1065 [1] 2010 Orion 07.503: 1078-1081 [4] Hampton Jitney (6 total) Routes: S94(Summer Only),10B,10C 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5041-5042 [2] 2010 Orion 07.502 35ft: 1064 [1] 2010 Orion 07.503 30ft: 1074,1076-1077 [3] Total number of Suffolk Transit Buses: 152 * Twin Forks Transit is the contract holder, Sunrise Coach Lines and Hampton Jitney are the sub contractors as well as co-owners of the company. Official Retired Buses (Buses before 1981 were either brought used by the County or were owned by the Private companies and used on routes after the creation of Suffolk Transit) 1959 GM TDH5106: 617 [1] 19xx GM TDH4517: 330,340 [2] 19xx GM xxxxxxx: 92,395,421,435-436 [5] 1960 GM TDH4517: 420 [1] 1960 GM SDH5301: 101 [1] 1960 GM TDH5302: 371 [1] 1961 GM TDH4517: 106 [1] 1962 GM SDH4501: 1334 (Leased from New York Bus Service?) 1962 GM TDH5301: 409 [1] 1963 GM TDH4519: 527 [1] 1963 GM SDH4502: 102 [1] 1964 GM TDH4519: 837 [1] 1964 GM TDH5304: 158 [1] 1965 GM TDH4519: 292-294,840 [4] 1966 GM TDH4519: 108,111,700 [3] 1967 GM TDH4519: 104-105 [2] 1969 GMC T6H4521: 517,528 [2] 1973 GMC T6H4523A: 904,909,917,921,924 [5] 1974 GMC T6H4523A: 124 [1] 1975 Flxible 45096-6-1: 14-15,828-829,836 [5] 1981 New Flyer D901A-10235C: 108-115,119-120,550-557,800-806 (25) 1982 Gillig Phantom 3596TB: 5-13,(5,118-125),7-13,125-127,209,558-562,815-820 (31) 1982 Chance RT52: 1-4,4-6,20-22,113-117,121-124,210-214,807-814,810-812 (37) 1987 Gillig Phantom 35102TB: 701-702,8703-8704,710,8720-8733,740-742,750-760 (33) 1988 Chance RT52: 300-303,320-321,340-341,350-352,880-884 (16) 1991 Gillig Phantom 40102TB: 9100,910-917 [9] 1991 Gillig Phantom 35102TB: 9101-9108,920,930-934,940-941 (16) 1993 Flexible Metro D 30096-6T: 9301-9303,9311-9316,9321-9326,9331-9342 (27) 1996 Gillig Phantom 35102TB: 9600-9617,9620,9630-9636,9641-9655,9660-9661 (43) 1997 Gillig Phantom 3096TB: 9701-9702,9711-9714,9721-9726,9731-9734 (16) 1999 Orion 05.503: 9901-9907,9909-9912,9914,9916-9919,9921-9922,9924-9927,9930-9931,9934,9936-9938,9940-9942 (31) 2000 Gillig Phantom 35TB102 Suburban: 2002-2003 [2] 2005 Gillig Phantom 35TB102: 5059,5076,5081 [3] 2010 Orion 07.502: 1034,1054 [2] Total Number of Retired Suffolk Transit Buses: 330 Retired SCAT bus list (List in incomplete.) 1993 Unknown Ford E Series: xxxx-xxxx (2, Transferred to Suffolk County PD renumbered 29784-28785) 199x Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford: 1909-1910 [2] 2000 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 94xx,9414,9446,9494 [4] 2002 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2201-2218 [18] 2003 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2301-2315 (15) 2004 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2401-2405,2407-2425 [24] 2006 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E450: 2500-2501,2503-2509,2511-2516 (15) 2007 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2701,2706-2707,2709-2710,2720,2722-2724,2726,27xx-27xx (12, 2724-27xx buses transferred to Suffolk County PD) 2008 Coach and Equipment Metrolite Ford E-450: 2804-2805,2815 [3] Total Number of Retired SCAT Buses: 96 Official Retired Routes List S71 (2001-2016) S35 (1981-2016) S90 (1981-2016) 1B (1981-2016) 5A (1981-2016) 7D/E (1981-1990,1992?-2016)* 10A (1981-1990,1992?-2016)* 10D/E (1981-1990,1992?-2016)* S74 (1981-1998) S21 (1981-1990) 1C (1981-1990) 9A (1981-1990) S64 (1981-1987?)+ +The Port Jefferson Station to Coram portion of the S64 was folded into the S60 Total Number of Retired Routes: 15 Official list of Former Operators CBS Lines, Inc (1989-2011) Inter-County Motor Coach (1977-2011) Coram Bus Service, Inc (1981-1989) The Blue Coach Lines (1981-????) Louis A. Fuoco Bus Service (1981-????) Babylon Transit (1981-????) Lindenhurst Bus Co, Inc (1981-????) Long Island Airport Service (????) Seashore Transit, Inc (1978) Alert Coach Lines (1977-1978,1981-1994) Four Season Bus Service/Holbrook Transportation (1975-1977) MSBA (1973-1975,1977-1981) Number of former operators: 12
  23. I don't know if Suffolk is deciding to do anything, Though I don't know they were considering about picking up the Sunrise Mall to Babylon portion of the n19 until they announced it so who knows. As for the SCT change card, I heard form someone who has used it, that you have to dip it, so I assume it has to be inserted into the slot which generates it just like how their transfers work.
  24. Yeah, they were installed not that long ago. I personally haven't seen them yet.
  25. My guess would be that at the time it was made (My guess before it was announced the other routes would be cut), the n19 didn't cross into Suffolk so they decided not to included. Either that or since it was cut from going to Babylon and Suffolk picked up the Babyon to Sunrise Mall portion of the n19, whoever created the bus map assumed that the n19 had been completely cut. Again though that's just my guess.
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