N6 Limited

Extend S1 to Sunrise Mall, to serve mall and connect to N19

That's because they don't run it every 10 mins llike he N6X, and it runs in the reverse peak direction.

Are you saying that I can't take the N21 to Hicksville to attend said meeting?

Have you gone to a meeting yet?

The real world lol. Someone didn't feel like being at work that day.

I don't even know why they care, the terminal is a POS anyway. They should be concerned about those nasty bathrooms.

I wonder how that works, you give NICE the transfer and 75 cents? Yeah, it was so packed I was able to walk right up the stairs from the back door. People like bunching up in the isles for some reason. I was all prepared to say "Thank You" until that driver kept the front door closed. Then I got pissed. And he had to nerve to worry about me dipping my MetroCard? Really!? The same thing happened a few years ago, I was waiting at Franklin Ave after work on my way home, the driver passes the bus stop to just in front of Taco Bell to let people off, ran behind the bus, and caught the back door and hopped on. At least 5 people got off the bus. The driver then says I have to pay. WHAT?! REALLY!? You should have STOPPED AT THE BUS STOP instead of playing games. I had an unlimited metrocard anyway it really made no difference. He saw me all of the time. So I went up and dipped my card, SURPRISE!!! A premium TransitChek Metrocard,(at that time) Happy now? SMH. A N4 driver used to play that game too. Central Ave, N4 to Freeport. Instead of stopping at the bus stop, they stopped in front of Enterprise to let people off. So if 4 people just got off the bus, you could have let 4 people on, stop the games. I'd go right to the bus and step through the back door. You have a problem with it, you should have stopped at the bus stop. You will collect my fare when there is a path for me to get to the farebox. NOT to mention, that the next stop is Fletcher Ave and quite a few school kids alight to go to Valley Stream Middle and High Schools. There is no excuse, do your job. I have NO problem paying for the bus, but to pass bus stops and keep the door closed and all of that and THEN have the nerve to act offended as if I just walked passed the fare box? You gotta be kidding me! And this comes down to transit advocates saying "yeah, you drive you should pay more, people should use mass transit, get out of their cars, etc" please STFU. Virtually every time I decide to use mass transit, the bus is bunched, late, crowded, and/or flags the stop, etc. And that can be accompanied by subway issues as well. Hell, a few months ago I dropped my car off to get some maintenance done, I head home because I forgot my coupon at home, I go right back to the bus stop, I get flagged by 3 buses, on a rainy afternoon. waited at least 30 mins, during rush hour. The N6 brings out my bad side.

So they split the routes but the N24's don't even meet up with the N79's. The N22 seems to connect with the least waiting time.

They reduced Saturday and weekday-midday headways from every 10 mins to every 12 mins, so that's a loss of one bus per hour at those times. As for the other time frames I don't know.

I could Imagine, I used to take the N4 to work sometimes. I had to "Choose my poison" and make the decision whether to use the N6 or the N4 in combination with another route. I don't mind if there are no seats, I just want to be able to get on the bus. I also took the N4 yesterday. It was a little late, but they're doing construction on Merrick Road by the Ballys. But isn't still on its 1 hour headways? Why is it losing ridership? 1)Well technically I got flagged by 1 bus, The bus that passed while I was walking to the bus stop flagged the people already waiting there, Then a bus flagged the stop while I was there, and the bus I boarded would have flagged us if the lady didn't get off. I waited about 35 mins. 2)LOL@ not his problem. Nice Customer service there. I didn't trust the driver , and so I asked the woman to hold the door for me. And right, I told him I'd dip my card at the subway, I would have gone up before hand if it was ok, but people basically clogged the path until the subway. I mean, I get a free transfer anyway. Yeah some routes truly get overcrowded, where all seats are taken and there is hardly any room for anyone else to board. But all seats taken in itself does not mean overcrowded.

Yes, but this happened on a Saturday. Hah, that word reminds me of London. Some routes are on diversion because of "road works". And so the displays and announcments say "This bus is on Diversion" lol Yes, that's exactly my point lol. Going East though, the buses were filled from front to back. True some people do that, the only thing is that it's the last stop and you have to go through all of the pick ups in Queens. I have no problem with dipping my card first, and going in through the back door.

I definitely complained. There are a few issues. One is that are that there are people by the white line, and so if there is room for one or two people near the driver and there are 6 people at the bus stop, the driver keeps going, Even if there is room by the stairs. I mean, I had acquired a seat, while people were still squished by the driver, it makes no sense! The second issue is that there is usually room beyond the rear doorwell/steps. I was able to get on and go right up the steps. They should start using their minds and allow people to dip their card and go through the back door, SBS style. I've been passed by a quite a few buses where I could have easily went through the back door without a problem. It's one thing to have a crowded bus, it's another thing to be flagged consistently, especially when you see that there is room for you on the bus. Yep, and it's not that they don't want to pay, it's that they just want to get to their destination and/or don't want to push their way through all the people in the way. Possibly, if they want their money they need to find a way to improve the route. If you want to reduce frequencies the drivers have to make sure they can get everyone on the bus, make people move back or take the easy route and let people get in the back door. People have places to go and when you leave them at the bus stop, MORE people are then waiting for the next bus, which then passes the bus stop because there are "too many" people waiting. Riders going to the racetrack are extra money also. Some go frequently, some go once in a while, pay with a PPR, or cash.

The N6 pissed me off yesterday. I'm trying to get to the city and the drivers kept passing my stop, not to mention that the Kentucky Derby was yesterday and so a lot of people went to the racetrack. The N6 was pretty busy, especially when the races were over. Of course if a driver doesn't pick ANYONE up, then the stop is going to have MORE people for the next bus, which the driver of keeps going because of the amount of people. So, a bus pulls up to the stop and the B/O doesn't open the front door. I had enough, I went right to the back door and got on when a lady got off, and so did a few other people waiting. The driver then has an issue that I didn't pay, He focused on me because I yelled up front "I'll pay at the subway" and he's like "no you pay now" and I'm like "Yeah, If you wanted me to pay you should have opened the door, I don't have time for games, I'm not getting passed by 5 buses" He kept telling me to come to the front, and yet the door was still closed. Once he opened it, I had this girl that was at the bus stop hold the back door open for me. I went up front dipped my card and went back to the back door. I HAD A FREAKING SEAT before Springfield Blvd! That's what pisses me off, YOU KNOW WE"RE ALMOST IN QUEENS, and that everyone will be alighting the bus, stop the bullshit and pick the passengers up. We don't have all day to be waiting for buses to pass by. Same thing eastbound, stop the bullshit, you know a lot of people get off at Elmont Road. NICE better get that N6 under control.

They're at the end of the Video, but the line is not much different from other lines in Jamaica and Flushing

How would you suggest they do that?

What? Isn't that what the N6L did in the first place?

Please document the chaos, I haven't been able to. Maybe then you can show the LIB Riders Union so they can have something of substance to show. Some of those riders should attempty to back track east to the next Express stop . (Meacham Ave & Westminster Rd). If they can get bypassed by tons of local buses they can certainly backtrack to the next express stop. Total Fubar this change was. I still don't understand how they thought the majority of riders going to the subway were going to/from Hempstead.

They did it to save money.

The N6 Local is only struggling during rush hour because of the butchering of the route with the N6x.

Yes Long Island Cab companies are crazy with their prices. I avoid dabs, unless I'm going to be dropped off at the airport or something. Seems like they took my advice (And perhaps others also suggested it). Now Riders waiting to go to Jamaica can go to the N6 stop and take either bus. Sometimes there would be a group waiting for the N6 while a N1 with capacity makes a left on to Hempstead Turnpike. The only thing is that, it somewhat sucks for riders connecting to an Eastbound N6. They're really doing it to help relieve the N6 Local. They should have the N1 focus on pickups along Hempstead Turnpike. The need to communicate strategies with B/O's. It's like "look, the N6 Local is packed, by the time westbound buses get to Elmont Road it's at flagging capacity. If you're driving an N1 focus on pick-ups. If you're driving a n6 and a n1 is in front or behind you, then only do drop-offs. N1's are on 15-20min headways, so of course you would only want to do that if you've seen an N1 in front or behind you." At 169th and 179th they should have a "platform b/o" or someone, suggesting to riders that are getting off at, or before Elmont Road to use the N1.

They updated the N6x alerts page suggesting that riders who are at the bus terminal or 169th street, take the N6 local to 179th street for a free transfer to the N6x. http://nicebus.com/Passenger_Information/Service_Alerts/index.html

Wouldn't it be better for you now? You could take the N23 from the mall straight to the N20 at a point further west. If the N23's are empty during the day, then merging the routes provides enough service, no? Does it work because it connects Willis Ave to Roosevelt FIeld and Hempstead, or are those just N27 riders? Edit: The NICE site now redirects cellphones to the mobile site.

I took the n23/n27 yesterday. I'm not making any excuses, but from my observations the N27 goes in a constant loop and there really isn't a way for the driver to know if the N20 came or not, as of yet. I suppose if there are people waiting at the stop, as there was on my trip, he can assume the N20 came by. Since there is one bus doing the 27 if it waits too long then it causes a chain reaction. I was on one of those Southbound SRO trips ,17:31 from Roslyn. I decribed what happened in this post: http://nyctransitfor...32-n23n27-ride/ . We picked up everyone waiting except for one guy because he ran out from a side street at the last moment , don't believe it was a corner stop either. SRO from front to back is typical for the n6 so It was the usual for me. The bus was "relieved" at Hillside Ave a good amount of passengers transfered to the N22. It's really not that bad if it gets like that for a few stops. They have to find a way to get the 23/27/20 b/o's communicating before the end of the year when GPS is supposed to start getting installed on the buses. I think it was a good Idea, extending the 43 to Hempstead serves the same purpose as the N16 short turns and other riders get to use it as well, it uses existing capacity on the n43.

Anyone have any status updates? Hows the N24 Extension to Hicksville coming along? As well as the N43 Extension? Hows the N23/N27 combination? Etc.

Q4: Extend to Elmont Road to Connect to N1 & N2/N8 Loop. Q27. Extend Limited Trips to Q77 Terminal for connections to Q5 & Q85.