Bill from Maspeth

FP maintenance area does not have room for artics. Storage only inside the depot. Grand Ave. only has enough 60' lifts for the B38 fleet.

FP can't handle artics in the maintenance area. There is just no room. The main depot is used for storage only. Grand Ave. can't handle any more artics because they just barely have enough room for 60' maintenance bays for the B38 fleet.

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Grand Ave. street reliefs are accomplished on the Q59

So you want B57's having driver reliefs, entering service and dropping out to go to the depot near where it terminates today?

In the first draft plan, the Q14 was going to terminate at Palmetto St./Fresh Pond Rd. right by FP depot and the similarly named M line station. In this new draft plan, it's terminating around Eliot/Metropolitan/Fresh Pond thereby severing a connecting to the M train and making b/o reliefs to and from the depot to deadhead there.

My area made out pretty well compared to the first draft plan. But I have one issue, the B57 and let me get this out of the way first as this part does not affect Queens. I don't see the logic of having the B57 & B62 in Brooklyn swapping their routes along Park Ave. and Flushing Ave. This will only confuse the riders even more. Can we keep the tradition of the B57 being the Flushing Ave. Bus please? Even though the B57 will no longer going to IKEA in Brooklyn and instead being cut back to downtown Brooklyn, I still don't like the idea of it being extended to Jackson Heights. Due to unpredictable traffic along Flushing Ave. between Classon Ave. and Broadway, service reliability sucks, and now they want for it to be the only route along 69th St. between Grand Ave. and 51st Ave. I don't like the idea. And depot assignments for lots of these new and realigned routes will be interesting. For example, I would expect the B57 and B62 to be assigned to LGA. The idea was for one "super" seniority list for the operators so the lists at NYCT Bus and MTA Bus could be merged. What is the status of this?

Annoying? They are trying to provide full service while other depots may have spares available to loan out..

Reported yesterday...........just 3 posts above your post .

Decisions as to which yards cars are assigned to is made by the Division of Car Equipment. Yes, the above lines are part of the Queens District but RTO does not make the decision as to which yard (in this case Jamaica Yard) the R211T's will be assigned. That's all on Car Equipment.

Extend the Q60? Isn't it long and unreliable enough?

I don't like the idea of swapping the Q39 and Q67 once they get to the Maspeth area. I ride the Q39 often and there are lots of riders who would have to change buses by Calvary Cemetary on 58th St..............especially all those school kids.

"Buy America" is not nonsense because the manufacturing of the cars gives Americans jobs, rather than those jobs going overseas. And there is no such thing as an "off the shelf design". That is because even though the gauge may be standard, the clearance window varies from system to system.

Not in late 2023-2024. Baisley Park is getting new Nova's as we speak and we have more Nova's and NF's coming for BP, LGA, JFK/FR and ECH.

It could be a waste of money indeed. They initially ordered 20 cars for a reason. To evaluate them and decide if they want more in option orders. No final decision has been made public yet if they want more of not.

We have a long time. If the subway gets too crowded, they will add service. We are months away from this scheme being implemented.

No way. There could be 5 or 10 cars or whatever being held in the yard for any number of reasons: inspection, defect, vandalism, work needed to be done by the vendor.........The set returns to service when it is released by the dept. who requested it to the barn.

To add: MTA/NYCT has to have a contract with some vendor to scrap the R46's. I have no doubt that no such contract exists at the present time. Plus, there is no reason to until the R32's are off the property.

Another new home for the widely traveled 4513. But this will likely be its last assignment. Anybody have its history?

Administrator should lock this thread.

And what will CP get in return? Are they supposed to let excess CNG buses sit around doing nothing?

Again, you will only get new CNG's. PERIOD!

So then in 3-6 years your entire depot will have new buses. "Good things happen to those who wait". "Old and boring" (your words) are extreme fan/foamer words. MTA/NYCT does not run their bus (and train) systems to make the extreme fans/foamers happy. This is not entertainment!

How many times? Loans aside (a few buses here and there) CP is not getting anything new other than new orders of CNG's. And the tanks on the buses you have don't expire till they are at least 15 years old! There are other depots around with buses much older than yours. Plus even though your buses are 12 years old, they still run like new.

Pictured on the previous page and this one is an open gangway set and they have regularly been making the rounds on the Queens Blvd. IND. In fact, they have made the rounds on all IND routes, as well as most BMT ones. There have been GO's out there. I'm sure this is not the first time an open gangway set has been "burn tested" on the R and won't be the last time. Obviously the vendor and NYCT's New Car Engineering Dept. have their reasons for the repetition.