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I don't have a problem with virtual meetings. If anything it makes it more accessible, since you can do it from the comfort of your own home. And there was decent dialogue at these meetings (there was back and forth on the merits of running the Q101 to Brooklyn vs Manhattan, etc)

Wassaic only sees direct trains during rush hour (similar to Danbury and New Canaan). Poughkeepsie sees direct trains all day.

Is there anyone interested is joining a Transit Advocacy Group for NJ? Message me if you are. It is in the preliminary stages (the current ones like the Lackawanna Coalition seem to focus on rail, which is definitely important, but I was looking to start something that focused equally on all modes)

@N6 Limited There's a bus to Stewart Airport from the Beacon station, and then of course the BL-12 (soon to be microtransit) to HPN. From NYC there is a direct bus to Woodbury Commons, but you are right that there might be some demand for Westchester- Woodbury travel. (I forget offhand, maybe the Orange - Westchester Link from White Plains serves it as well)

That's how it's set up. All of the comments are their own individual comments (but you can place a pin right next to someone else's comment and then state your own comment...which can be a response to that comment, or an entirely separate comment). I've put down next to a few that I agree with their comment, and a couple that I disagree. I saw what they were mentioning where the guy was going around commenting all over the map (which is his right, though most of his ideas weren't that great, but a few did have something that could open a reasonable discussion about service in certain corridors), but people were going off unnecessarily strong on him.

Hopefully they just go through with it. By that logic, there shouldn't be too many buses terminating in Jamaica or Flushing, despite those being major hubs. With Amityville being advertised as a timed transfer point, I think it would greatly increase ridership on the n71 and n80 if those were to be extended out there. (The n80 to the S2 would basically be a substitute for the minimal service on the Central Branch between Hicksville & Babylon, and the n71 to the S2, S4, or S10 would somewhat substitute for the loss of the old n72.

Part of it is mitigated with the timed transfer point at Riverhead (so a bit of recovery time will be built into the schedule at Riverhead LIRR station) If the S92 were split at Riverhead, perhaps one of those splits could head over to Calverton.

N71 is getting extended to Amityville as per SCT plan (presumably they discussed it with NICE). I believe the N54/55 already go to Amityville, so it's just the N80 that needs to get extended (S1, S2, S4, and S10 will terminate at Amityville from the SCT side)

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nj.com/news/2022/09/nj-transit-bus-route-redesign-is-late-in-one-city-but-improvements-are-on-the-road.html%3foutputType=amp

It's still in progress. Definitely haven't given up on it.

I hope they didn't cut corners in terms of the service span, since it looks like it's all added service compared to the draft plan (Some of it necessary, some of it definitely questionable) The S5 extended to Smith Haven via Hauppauge makes more sense than duplicating the S4 (and LIRR) to Central Islip, but I think it's a bit overkill to have the S4, S5, and S58 all running between Smith Haven & Brentwood. The S52 turned into a bidirectional loop (similar to the present-day S20) makes a lot of sense (and also helps cover the Farmingville portion of the present-day S63) I hope the S77Y doesn't do the same thing the present-day S68 does, where they just widen the headway and extend the trips out to Horseblock Road (they should add an extra bus to account for the branch/diversion to Yaphank) The S3 and S10 meander a lot unnecessarily (especially the S10...they should've just branched the S2 in that area, or extended the S3 or S5 to GSB Shopping Center rather than do all the meandering). Glad to see the S62 was maintained (and with Sunday service added) The S80 is really pointless. There's barely anything along Middle Road, and if they wanted to serve the senior apartments just north of the hospital, they could've extended the S66 there. (On the bright side, I definitely agree with making the transfer point at the LIRR station rather than the County Center)

I don't know, is it? Their website is still up: https://www.srtbus.com/commuter.php

Can anyone confirm that Saddle River Tours is still operating its #55 route to Bloomfield & Belleville: https://www.srtbus.com/_content/commuter_schedules/55 Line from NJ to Midtown Manhattan.pdf

On Tuesday December 13th from 12pm - 1:30pm https://www.njtransit.com/sustainabilityplan

Any comments for the eastern portion of the B103? They seem to consider it a replacement for the Van Siclen portion of the B83 (I have no idea how...I guess because it goes from Van Siclen & Cozine over to the train). If anything, I think it should end around the Breukelen Houses (likely 105th & Farragut by the train...might as well provide the direct connection from the eastern portion of Canarsie over to the )

Yes because the main 190 bypasses Union City heading into Manhattan. So then you would know about ridership on them...or did you do a different short-turn?

That was a long time coming For anyone coming from Kingsborough, the B68 to the B35 would be the way they would get to Sunset Park. For those coming from Ocean Avenue, most of them are near the Brighton Line (and the connection to the hospital does have some value). For any extra fare issues, they usually provide 3-legged transfers. (Hopefully they're smart about it and allow people to use the subway...for the Bx15/M125 split, they insisted that people use the M125 to get the second transfer) I agree with the B5/6 limited expansion (except I think the B5 has a really stupid routing around Gateway Mall...it should take Schenck to Vandalia and serve the mall that way. For the B15/43, I think they were trying to provide a super-frequent corridor in between the B44 & B46. I think the B25 should be truncated to Flatbush Avenue as was mentioned by @BM5 via Woodhaven, so that riders have the connections to the subway lines in that area. Agree with the B26 changes. I agree with you on the B49...it doesn't make sense to have all those services on NY Avenue. I would've routed the B49 to Brooklyn Avenue and just ended it at the hospital. I was expecting something like the B15/35 restructuring they came up with, and I think it'll work out. The B55 makes connections to most of the subway lines in southern Brooklyn (with the exception of the 4th Avenue Line), and the B15 could use the truncation for more reliable service. I think they want everyone to transfer to the subway for Downtown Brooklyn access, but realized the value of a Flatbush - Park Slope connection. I agree with you on the B71...they should've also extended it to Lower Manhattan. Agree with you on the B16. I was actually expecting them to have the B9 run out to Bergen Beach. I don't think a truncation to Woodhull Hospital is the worst idea, but I definitely agree the B53 has no business running past WBP. Agree with you on the B76. For the Breukelen Houses, I would have a route running from Canarsie to Euclid Avenue via Glenwood Road, East 108th Street, Stanley Avenue, Eldert Lane, Sutter Avenue, Crescent Street, and Pitkin Avenue (return south via Euclid Avenue). Maybe swing over to Linden Blvd between Ashford & Fountain the way they have the proposed B20 doing. That would allow the B14 to run straight across Sutter (with that slight series of turns in Ozone Park) and terminate at Cross Bay & Rockaway (or better yet, Aqueduct Racino, or Lefferts Blvd AirTrain station). For Pennsylvania Avenue, I actually think the B13 should be providing the Gateway - Starrett City connection, and have a route down Van Siclen providing the connection to the rest of ENY. I agree with you on the B61/81...I think the B61 should go no further than 4th Avenue. I think their general argument is that Park Slope (and Red Hook) - Flatbush is relatively difficult by mass transit (I know Red Hook specifically was mentioned in the ECG as an area they wanted to focus on), but Downtown Brooklyn - Flatbush has the subway and B41. I agree. I think they're of the belief that the slight B82 reroute onto Avenue K (and the frequency of the route) is sufficient compensation for the lack of through Avenue K service (though I do agree that it should exist for the purposes of connecting to Flatbush/Nostrand).

The Bloomfield Avenue routes (#11/28/29) run every 30 minutes individually, and every 10 minutes on the combined portion between Montclair and Newark Penn. (That much I agree with...the go28 remaining I can also understand, but I think the #72 needs to be completely restructured)

I actually agree with the Newark Bus Redesign proposal...just boost service on both of those routes slightly, but leave the #28 ending at MSU. The #11 is the quicker of the two routes anyway.

I agree...the MTA needs to standardize its service, both peak and off-peak. You have these busy Main Line trains from Huntington and Ronkonkoma making stops in Hollis for crying out loud. During rush hour, the local stops from Floral Park to Hicksville should be covered by Huntington, Farmingdale, and East Williston trains (maybe with some Huntington & Farmingdale trains running express west of Mineola), with trains from Port Jefferson & Ronkonkoma (and of course, any point off the Montauk Branch) making express stops. (Ideally Mineola would've been built with island platforms, but of course that ship has sailed) For Kew Gardens, Forest Hills, and Woodside, perhaps a second branch (maybe Long Beach) could provide local service with service to Penn. (Or alternate trains, some running express and bypassing Rosedale, Laurelton, Locust Manor, Kew Gardens, Forest Hills, and Woodside, and others making those stops).

I think a good part of it has to do with the fact that (to my knowledge) there's no cross-honoring, so if you have a pass or ticket for one, you can't use it on the other service. For a lot of these services (Lakeland, DeCamp, Red & Tan, Coach USA Suburban, etc) it would be nice if NJT took them over (maybe even contracting with them to provide the service, but at least integrating the fares)

The neighborhood of Marble Hill is politically part of Manhattan, though geographically it is The Bronx (I think something like 7 of the 11 buildings of the Marble Hill Houses are in Manhattan). It has to do with the Harlem River originally running a bit further north, and when the course of the river changed, the neighborhood ended up being attached to The Bronx, but is still considered Manhattan. (Same thing with the train stop)

A few days ago, I saw a Greenville bus helping out on the #39 out of Newark Penn. It was around 9:30pm IIRC

https://www.suffolkcountyny.gov/

Some of these Bloomfield Avenue light rail short-turns don't make any sense (for the #11/28/29). One apparently comes off the #73, one comes off the #79, and one terminates at the light rail and then continues to Newark Penn to start a #28.