mark1447 Posted October 11, 2009 #1 Posted October 11, 2009 I notice on the side of the car, inside, there is these 2 black stickers thats small and its a square. One a Star and the other a Triangle. What does those sticker means? If anyone knows what I'm talking about.. Ive seen them on all NTT cars. Forgot if they are in all fleet including OTTs.
7LineFan Posted October 11, 2009 #2 Posted October 11, 2009 They might have been mentioned here before but by now I've forgotten what they mean as well.
INDman Posted October 11, 2009 #3 Posted October 11, 2009 I notice on the side of the car, inside, there is these 2 black stickers thats small and its a square. One a Star and the other a Triangle. What does those sticker means? If anyone knows what I'm talking about.. Ive seen them on all NTT cars. Forgot if they are in all fleet including OTTs. The mark the location of the BCO, PBCO, and SBCO. If you look under the seat you will find a metal box and inside of which the cut outs are located.
St Louis Car 09 Posted October 11, 2009 #4 Posted October 11, 2009 Holy moly so thats what those stickers mean all this time I thought some one was putting them there.
INDman Posted October 11, 2009 #5 Posted October 11, 2009 Holy moly so thats what those stickers mean all this time I thought some one was putting them there. Yep, you pull those and you cut out the brakes for that car. This is what you do when you move a car or train with brake problems.
mark1447 Posted October 12, 2009 Author #6 Posted October 12, 2009 The mark the location of the BCO, PBCO, and SBCO. If you look under the seat you will find a metal box and inside of which the cut outs are located. Wait to shut down the train breaks? Sry just confused a bit. thx of course..
INDman Posted October 12, 2009 #7 Posted October 12, 2009 Wait to shut down the train breaks? Sry just confused a bit. thx of course.. Yes, if you pull a BCO (brake cut out) that car will not have brakes. This is done when there is a mechanical malfunction and the brakes won't release.
mark1447 Posted October 12, 2009 Author #8 Posted October 12, 2009 Yes, if you pull a BCO (brake cut out) that car will not have brakes. This is done when there is a mechanical malfunction and the brakes won't release. Oh ok. Im guessing pulling the Emergency Break cord is the same too?
INDman Posted October 12, 2009 #9 Posted October 12, 2009 Oh ok. Im guessing pulling the Emergency Break cord is the same too? No, pulling that applies the brakes to stop the train. It has nothing to do with the BCOs.
St Louis Car 09 Posted October 12, 2009 #10 Posted October 12, 2009 So the BCO is like bleeding the brakes?
INDman Posted October 12, 2009 #11 Posted October 12, 2009 So the BCO is like bleeding the brakes? No, unlike in the movie "Money Train" if the brakes go under a certain pressure, they going into emergency. Cutting out the brakes means that the brakes on that car are not connected to the brake system. Any explanation I give will be very very basic. In a few days Subwayguy can give a really go explanation.
metsfan Posted October 12, 2009 #12 Posted October 12, 2009 Basically it's the individual car brake cut out of the brakes on that car are not working. - A
SubwayGuy Posted October 12, 2009 #13 Posted October 12, 2009 Heh...I'd rather not get into the specifics of it since it's not something that really should be posted in public. Basically a BCO cuts out the brakes on that car, that's all you really need to know. PBCO = Parking Brake Cutout...cuts out the parking brake on a particular car, only on new techs. And yes if you've seen money train it's the equivalent of when they "bleed the breaks" in the movie even though that doesn't exist in real life. But that's all your going to get out of me on a forum
St Louis Car 09 Posted October 13, 2009 #14 Posted October 13, 2009 Heh...I'd rather not get into the specifics of it since it's not something that really should be posted in public. Basically a BCO cuts out the brakes on that car, that's all you really need to know. PBCO = Parking Brake Cutout...cuts out the parking brake on a particular car, only on new techs. And yes if you've seen money train it's the equivalent of when they "bleed the breaks" in the movie even though that doesn't exist in real life. But that's all your going to get out of me on a forum LOL I appriciate the info.
mark1447 Posted October 13, 2009 Author #15 Posted October 13, 2009 What do you mean by parking? :confused: You mean, when the train is not running the car will stay put? and whats SBCO btw? Heh...I'd rather not get into the specifics of it since it's not something that really should be posted in public. Basically a BCO cuts out the brakes on that car, that's all you really need to know. PBCO = Parking Brake Cutout...cuts out the parking brake on a particular car, only on new techs. And yes if you've seen money train it's the equivalent of when they "bleed the breaks" in the movie even though that doesn't exist in real life. But that's all your going to get out of me on a forum __________________________________________________________________ Yes, if you pull a BCO (brake cut out) that car will not have brakes. This is done when there is a mechanical malfunction and the brakes won't release. Sry just to add. If the brakes wont release, and lets say the train is running that means it will not stop or your saying if the train is already stopped it won't move.. Just trying to get it right. Thanks!
SubwayGuy Posted October 13, 2009 #16 Posted October 13, 2009 What do you mean by parking? :confused: You mean, when the train is not running the car will stay put? When the train is laid up at night a parking brake is the new tech version of a hand brake = keeps the train from rolling away in the yard. Parking brake applies automatically on new techs. However if it doesn't release when you want it to then you cut it out and whats SBCO btw? Service Brake Cut Out
mark1447 Posted October 13, 2009 Author #17 Posted October 13, 2009 When the train is laid up at night a parking brake is the new tech version of a hand brake = keeps the train from rolling away in the yard. Parking brake applies automatically on new techs. However if it doesn't release when you want it to then you cut it out Service Brake Cut Out Oh ok. So when it gets cut out you can restore it? More like a lever?
Joe Posted October 13, 2009 #18 Posted October 13, 2009 Heh...I'd rather not get into the specifics of it since it's not something that really should be posted in public. +1 :tup:
SubwayGuy Posted October 13, 2009 #19 Posted October 13, 2009 Oh ok. So when it gets cut out you can restore it? More like a lever? Yes you can cut it back in.
DOB2RTO Posted October 13, 2009 #20 Posted October 13, 2009 What do you mean by parking? :confused: You mean, when the train is not running the car will stay put? Just trying to get it right. Thanks! What SubwayGuy said about the Parking Brakes is true, but they only apply if the air compressors stop working, and the brake pipe air goes under a certain pressure.......... I wish the R62/62A's had these. Putting on all handbrakes at 137yard is bulls%!t..............
INDman Posted October 13, 2009 #21 Posted October 13, 2009 Well you don't want to get hit by your own train do ya? It's happened before.
SubwayGuy Posted October 14, 2009 #22 Posted October 14, 2009 I wish the R62/62A's had these. Putting on all handbrakes at 137yard is bulls%!t.............. Heh...at least it's not like the Arnine "nutcracker" handbrakes. Releasing those could lead one down the road to infertility if they weren't careful
Joe Posted October 14, 2009 #23 Posted October 14, 2009 Heh...at least it's not like the Arnine "nutcracker" handbrakes. Releasing those could lead one down the road to infertility if they weren't careful Sign me up.
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