Roadcruiser1 Posted May 9, 2011 Share #76 Posted May 9, 2011 High Speed Rail is best left to CSX and Amtrak. The MNRR doesn't have permission to operate out of NYC's suburban areas. Garibaldi if you want more information for high speed rail in NYC, and the state I suggest you look up the Empire Corridor. I do believe that CSX should be in control of all of America's future high speed rail networks due to the fact that CSX is making money while Amtrak is losing it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexis4Jersey Posted May 9, 2011 Author Share #77 Posted May 9, 2011 High Speed Rail is best left to CSX and Amtrak. The MNRR doesn't have permission to operate out of NYC's suburban areas. Garibaldi if you want more information for high speed rail in NYC, and the state I suggest you look up the Empire Corridor. I do believe that CSX should be in control of all of America's future high speed rail networks due to the fact that CSX is making money while Amtrak is losing it. CSX , wtf are you talking about....the worst Freight company in the NE and the only one who hates HSR should run it? If any should happen , NY state should take over CSX trackage.....have you seen there track condition? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted May 9, 2011 Share #78 Posted May 9, 2011 Well sadly they are the only one making money. No one else has the money to do it. Unless if Amtrak is giving a massive amount of money from the US Government. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexis4Jersey Posted May 9, 2011 Author Share #79 Posted May 9, 2011 Well sadly they are the only one making money. No one else has the money to do it. Unless if Amtrak is giving a massive amount of money from the US Government. There cutting corners and neglect there tracks....they should have them revoked.... NS should have gotten the tracks , all these issues trace back to Conrail which seem to have ruined the system...by selling the tracks to the wrong ppl. What does Amtrak and HSR have to do with the MNRR? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted May 9, 2011 Share #80 Posted May 9, 2011 I don't know Via Garbaldi 8 brought this subject up not me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted May 9, 2011 Share #81 Posted May 9, 2011 I don't know Via Garbaldi 8 brought this subject up not me. No I didn't. There was already a discussion going on about rail improvements and comparisons between Europe's railways and ours. I just added to it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted May 9, 2011 Share #82 Posted May 9, 2011 That's what I meant you put anothing subject into a conversation. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted May 9, 2011 Share #83 Posted May 9, 2011 @Garibaldi: Van Hool is from Belgium, not from The Netherlands But they do make awesome buses B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted May 9, 2011 Share #84 Posted May 9, 2011 No I didn't. There was already a discussion going on about rail improvements and comparisons between Europe's railways and ours. I just added to it. Indeed, it was my fault. I started the comparison which I'm sorry for. It was wiser if opened a new topic for that instead of going offtopic in this thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexis4Jersey Posted June 10, 2011 Author Share #85 Posted June 10, 2011 Does anyone have pictures of the New Fairfield Metro and West Haven Stations under Construction? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutgers Tube Posted June 11, 2011 Share #86 Posted June 11, 2011 High Speed Rail is best left to CSX and Amtrak. The MNRR doesn't have permission to operate out of NYC's suburban areas. Garibaldi if you want more information for high speed rail in NYC, and the state I suggest you look up the Empire Corridor. I do believe that CSX should be in control of all of America's future high speed rail networks due to the fact that CSX is making money while Amtrak is losing it. CSXT runs High Speed Freight, when and where it can. Why the hell would any freight carrier want to get involved in passenger travel, especially HSR. And have you ever heard of monopolization? If were even legal in this country, any industry with a single dominant corporate entity would perpetually be playing with fire because the failure of that one corporation could be a de facto failure of that industry. CSXT was designed as a freight carrier, and all of its equipment, yards and maintenance shops serve that purpose. HSR operations would mean starting from scratch with an entirely different approach to doing business, which will never happen at this point anywhere in America. CSX , wtf are you talking about....the worst Freight company in the NE and the only one who hates HSR should run it? If any should happen , NY state should take over CSX trackage.....have you seen there track condition? NYS, currently a state in one of the worst fiscal situations in the country? For one, I wouldn't trust NYS to mow a lawn without being late, going over budget and cutting corners. Second, government intervention of most private industries should be avoided at all costs unless it's been proven to be absolutely essential. There cutting corners and neglect there tracks....they should have them revoked.... NS should have gotten the tracks , all these issues trace back to Conrail which seem to have ruined the system...by selling the tracks to the wrong ppl. What does Amtrak and HSR have to do with the MNRR? A brief history lesson - Infrastructure neglect began well before Conrail and Amtrak were ever even thought of. Passenger and freight railroading in the Northeast was headed the way of the dinosaurs following WWII due to the increased popularity and accessibility of automobiles and air travel. Eisenhower's Interstate Highway System, built in reality as a national defense measure, and Robert Moses' pro-auto-anti-train attitude, contractual losses and were a few of the biggest reasons that regional railroads were losing revenue. The mismanagement that infested the PRR, NYC, NH and their subsidiaries, difficult labor union negotiations and the ICC's over-regulation of rates caused system improvements and upgrades to seem like hallucinations and necessary infrastructure and equipment maintenance to become be decided up with coin flips and dart throws. Penn Central was a doomed endeavor, and both Amtrak in 1971 and Conrail in 1976 inherited a system that was marred by deferred maintenance and aging infrastructure. NJT and MNCR were created in 1983 to join the LIRR, thus assuming the same decaying system. CSXT and NS jointly bought out Conrail in 1997. If NS had purchased the entire system, I tend to think Conrail would simply have become an operating subsidiary with few changes other than the integration of resources and administrative policies. And, who are these "wrong people"? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexis4Jersey Posted June 11, 2011 Author Share #87 Posted June 11, 2011 CSXT runs High Speed Freight, when and where it can. Why the hell would any freight carrier want to get involved in passenger travel, especially HSR. And have you ever heard of monopolization? If were even legal in this country, any industry with a single dominant corporate entity would perpetually be playing with fire because the failure of that one corporation could be a de facto failure of that industry. CSXT was designed as a freight carrier, and all of its equipment, yards and maintenance shops serve that purpose. HSR operations would mean starting from scratch with an entirely different approach to doing business, which will never happen at this point anywhere in America. NYS, currently a state in one of the worst fiscal situations in the country? For one, I wouldn't trust NYS to mow a lawn without being late, going over budget and cutting corners. Second, government intervention of most private industries should be avoided at all costs unless it's been proven to be absolutely essential. A brief history lesson - Infrastructure neglect began well before Conrail and Amtrak were ever even thought of. Passenger and freight railroading in the Northeast was headed the way of the dinosaurs following WWII due to the increased popularity and accessibility of automobiles and air travel. Eisenhower's Interstate Highway System, built in reality as a national defense measure, and Robert Moses' pro-auto-anti-train attitude, contractual losses and were a few of the biggest reasons that regional railroads were losing revenue. The mismanagement that infested the PRR, NYC, NH and their subsidiaries, difficult labor union negotiations and the ICC's over-regulation of rates caused system improvements and upgrades to seem like hallucinations and necessary infrastructure and equipment maintenance to become be decided up with coin flips and dart throws. Penn Central was a doomed endeavor, and both Amtrak in 1971 and Conrail in 1976 inherited a system that was marred by deferred maintenance and aging infrastructure. NJT and MNCR were created in 1983 to join the LIRR, thus assuming the same decaying system. CSXT and NS jointly bought out Conrail in 1997. If NS had purchased the entire system, I tend to think Conrail would simply have become an operating subsidiary with few changes other than the integration of resources and administrative policies. And, who are these "wrong people"? I'm aware of the past history , WTH CSX doesn't run HSF , HSF operates 90mph+ and can be found in Europe and Asia. There are alot of smaller companies all across the NE studying there lines to see if Passenger service is possible. PPP's can help will help many struggling projects in NYS get off the ground. NYSDOT has done a great job with the Smart Streets program , i'm sure they can do a great job with HSR. CT is in worse shape then NYSDOT yet they have plans and are enhancing / expanding there lines. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted June 12, 2011 Share #88 Posted June 12, 2011 I'm aware of the past history , WTH CSX doesn't run HSF , HSF operates 90mph+ and can be found in Europe and Asia. There are alot of smaller companies all across the NE studying there lines to see if Passenger service is possible. PPP's can help will help many struggling projects in NYS get off the ground. NYSDOT has done a great job with the Smart Streets program , i'm sure they can do a great job with HSR. CT is in worse shape then NYSDOT yet they have plans and are enhancing / expanding there lines. now this makes sense. If I were amtrak I would convert all the money losing trains into mixed trains. Use the revenue for real estate investment then begin upgrading the rails while buildiing separate ROWs throughout the country to eventually rid the system of delays. Eliminate the snack bar since it is a big WASTE. Invest in HSR along corridors that pass through ALL major cities. Then enhance conectivity with major airports. Eventually the mixed trains will cease as the rail becomes profitable. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted June 12, 2011 Share #89 Posted June 12, 2011 Good thing I have done my homework, and found two companies that are interested in high speed rail. That would be Burlington Northern & Santa Fe Railway, and the Norfolk Southern Railway. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted June 12, 2011 Share #90 Posted June 12, 2011 :tup: Good thing I have done my homework, and found two companies that are interested in high speed rail. That would be Burlington Northern & Santa Fe Railway, and the Norfolk Southern Railway. the winner of the debate roadcruiser1!!!! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutgers Tube Posted June 18, 2011 Share #91 Posted June 18, 2011 Good thing I have done my homework, and found two companies that are interested in high speed rail. That would be Burlington Northern & Santa Fe Railway, and the Norfolk Southern Railway. No, neither are interested in even paying to maintain the infrastructure to run speeds faster than freight moves at. Why would they anyway? Google "norfolk southern high speed rail" and "bnsf high speed rail" and continue to do your homework. Does anyone else have anything to contribute regarding Metro-North? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexis4Jersey Posted June 24, 2011 Author Share #92 Posted June 24, 2011 * The I287 Rail project stations are not exactly solid yet , there still in the talking phase and design phase.... I suspect the list might get bigger east of the Hudson... * Some projects are not proposed by the MNRR , but by towns or Developers as in the case of Downtown Norwalk , Sleepy Hollow Waterfront and East Bridgeport. Current , Proposed or Under Construction stations Northern New Jersey Transit / Metro North East of the Hudson New Haven line - GTC route Grand Central Terminal Harlem - 125th Street Yankees – East 153rd Street (Game Days only) Fordham Mount Vernon East Pelham New Rochelle Larchmont Mamaroneck Harrison Rye Port Chester Greenwich Cos-Cob Riverside Old Greenwich Stamford East Stamford Norton Heights Darien Rowayton South Norwalk East Norwalk Wesport Green Farms Southport Fairfield Fairfield Metro Center Bridgeport East Bridgeport Stratford Milford Orange West Haven New Haven Union Station New Haven State street New Haven line - Penn Station Extension Penn Station Hunts Point Parkchester Co-Op City New Rochelle Harrison Stamford New Canaan Branch Stamford East Stamford Glenbrook Springdale Talmadge Hill New Canaan Danbury Branch South Norwalk Downtown Norwalk Merritt 7 Wilton Cannondale Georgetown Branchville Redding Bethel Danbury North Danbury Brookfield New Milford Waterbury Branch Stamford Bridgeport Stratford Derby-Shelton Ansonia Seymour Beacon Falls Naugatuck Waterbury Harlem line Grand Central Terminal Harlem-125th Street Melrose Tremont Fordham Botanical Garden Williams Bridge Woodlawn Wakefield Mt. Vernon West Fleetwood Bronxville Tuckahoe Crestwood Scarsdale Hartsdale White Plains North White Plains Valhalla Mt. Pleasant Hawthrone Pleasentville Chappaqua Mt. Kisco Bedford Hills Katonah Golden's Bridge Purdy's Croton Falls Brewster Southeast Patterson Pawling Appalachian Trail Harlem Valley-Wingdale Dover Plains Tenmile River Wassaic Hudson line - GCT Route Grand Central Terminal Harlem-125th Street Yankees-E. 153 St Morris Heights University Heights Marble Hill Spuyten Duyvil Riverdale Ludlow Yonkers Glenwood Greystone Hastings-on-Hudson Dobbs Ferry Ardsley-on-Hudson Irvington Tarryrown Sleepy Hollow Waterfront Philipse Manor Scarborough Ossining Croton-Harmon Cortlandt Peekskill Manitou Garrison Cold Spring Breakneck Ridge Beacon New Hamburg Poughkeepsie Hudson line - Penn Station Extension Penn Station West 62nd Street West 125th Street Dyckman St Riverdale Yonkers Beacon / Maybrook line Beacon Beacon Town Center Fishkill Brinckernoff Hopewell JCT Brewster Danbury Newton Derby-Shelton West of the Hudson Port Jervis line Hoboken Terminal Secaucus JCT Paterson Ridgewood Suffern Hillburn Sloatsburg Tuxedo Harriman Salisbury Mills-Cornwall Campbell Hall Middletown-Town of Wallkill Otisville Port Jervis Main Line Hoboken Secaucus JCT Kingsland Lyndhurst Delawanna Passaic Clifton Paterson North Paterson Hawthorne Transit Center Glen Rock Ridgewood Ho-Ho-Kus Waldwick Allendale Ramsey-Main St. Ramsey-Route 17 Mahwah Suffern Hillburn Bergen line Hoboken Terminal Secaucus JCT Rutherford Wesmont Garfield Plaunderville Broadway - Fair Lawn Radburn - Fair Lawn Glen Rock Boro Hall Ridgewood Ho-Ho-Kus Waldwick Allendale Ramsey-Main St. Ramsey-Route 17 Mahwah Suffern Pascack Valley line Hoboken Terminal Secaucus JCT Wood-Ridge Teterboro Essex Street - Hackensack Railroad Ave JCT - Hackensack Anderson Street - Hackensack New Bridge Landing River Edge Oradell Emerson Westwood Hillsdale Woodcliff Lake Park Ridge Montvale Pearl River Pfizer Plant Nanuet Spring Valley Monsey Airmont East Suffern Hillburn Stewart Airport Express Grand Central Terminal Harlem-125th Street Yonkers Nyack East Suffern Stewart Airport I-287 Rail Corridor Hillburn East Suffern Airmont Monsey Spring Valley West Nyack Nyack Tarrytown Elmsford Fairview White Plains Transit Center Downtown White Plains East White Plains Port Chester I-287 Rail Corridor GCT spur Hillburn East Suffern Airmont Monsey Spring Valley West Nyack Nyack Irvington Yonkers Harlem-125th Street Grand Central Terminal West Shore line Hoboken Terminal Secaucus JCT Meadowlands Sports Complex Vince Lombradi Park & Ride Ridgefield Park Cedar Lane - Teaneck West Englewood Bergenfield Haworth Harrington Park Tappan Blauvelt Valley Cottage Congers Haverstraw Stony Point Bear Mountain Highland Falls West Point Cornwall on Hudson Newburgh Milton Kingston Bergen - Passaic LRT Hawthorne Transit Center 5th Street - Paterson Lafayette Street - Paterson Madison Ave - Paterson 20th Ave - Paterson Vreeland Ave - Paterson Boulevard - Paterson Midland Ave - Saddle Brook Mayhill Street -Saddle Brook Maywood Ave - Maywood American Legion Dr - Hackensack Railroad Ave JCT - Hackensack Main Street - Hackensack Munn Ave - Bogota Ridgefield Park Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutgers Tube Posted June 25, 2011 Share #93 Posted June 25, 2011 Who are the court jesters who have proposed station stops in East Stamford, East Bridgeport and Orange? The New Haven Line is not rapid transit, and adding stations will only lead to slower trains, delays and longer scheduled travel times. PTC will probably do enough of that once it's been implemented. What's convenient for the people residing and working in those areas isn't necessary convenient for everyone else, especially not the railroad. I mean, I'd love a train to make a station stop in my front yard, but I doubt that project will receive funding and support anytime soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexis4Jersey Posted June 25, 2011 Author Share #94 Posted June 25, 2011 Who are the court jesters who have proposed station stops in East Stamford, East Bridgeport and Orange? The New Haven Line is not rapid transit, and adding stations will only lead to slower trains, delays and longer scheduled travel times. PTC will probably do enough of that once it's been implemented. What's convenient for the people residing and working in those areas isn't necessary convenient for everyone else, especially not the railroad. I mean, I'd love a train to make a station stop in my front yard, but I doubt that project will receive funding and support anytime soon. The Cities and towns are studying those 3 , as the region grows and private large scale developments are become increasing popular in the old Industrial sections of CT. Thus you have the ever increasing need for stations , Developers usually request a station so there sites do not overload a station a few miles a way. Same is happening along some of the NJT lines and MBTA lines..... Orange might not happen , but this depends on West Haven's success. East Stamford , and East Bridgeport are attached to stalled developments.... So for the time being thats on hold. Same with Downtown Norwalk and Georgetown.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexis4Jersey Posted July 4, 2011 Author Share #95 Posted July 4, 2011 The I-287 Rail plans , it would happen in 2 phases..... Hillburn - Tarrytown & Tarrytown - Port Chester.... Joining the GCT network with the West of the Hudson system is top priority.... They want to expand Stewart Airport and make into an In't Airport with a Rail link. The line itself is looking like it will be Catenary , with 3rd Rail sections connecting the GCT network. The Catenary will connect the New Haven line with Port Jervis line. Trains coming from CT would be allowed to take this cross county route using overhead. Ive been Told Option 2 is more likely due to the costs with Option 1 for the Hillburn to Airmont section. The Pascack Valley line will be restored between Spring Valley and Airmont using old ROW. I have no idea what the final say is on the NY 59 Park & Ride / PVL interchange. The PPP Mall Station with have room for the future West Shore line transfer station. There will also be a station in Nyack or South Nyack. The Tarrytown station would not have parking and there still working on the exact site. Option 2 for Elmsford is looking more solid then Option 1 due to Soil conditions , less NIMBYS , and faster route. Its to soon to tell on WP's.. Option 1 is looking more likely then Option 2 due to cost reasons... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutgers Tube Posted July 4, 2011 Share #96 Posted July 4, 2011 Orange might not happen , but this depends on West Haven's success. East Stamford , and East Bridgeport are attached to stalled developments.... So for the time being thats on hold. Same with Downtown Norwalk and Georgetown.... There was another Glenbrook station on the NH mainline just east of CP 235, which is in east Stamford; it's long been abandoned. I'd really like to know where there's a feasible location to plop another station between Noroton and Stamford, considering the track layout through there. There were another four stations on the Danbury Branch between the mainline and Merritt 7. Here it's easier to fit a shorter Downtown Norwalk platform on one side of the tracks, as is typical of the NHL branches. And, a rebuilt Georgetown station has already been approved. East Bridgeport... where and why? Unless overhead catenary is going to be installed the entire length of Industrial Track 5, I can't see a station being built in Orange. Nexis, these questions and comments aren't intended to counter your post at all. I'm just wondering how developers and communities arrive at some of their conclusions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexis4Jersey Posted July 5, 2011 Author Share #97 Posted July 5, 2011 There was another Glenbrook station on the NH mainline just east of CP 235, which is in east Stamford; it's long been abandoned. I'd really like to know where there's a feasible location to plop another station between Noroton and Stamford, considering the track layout through there. There were another four stations on the Danbury Branch between the mainline and Merritt 7. Here it's easier to fit a shorter Downtown Norwalk platform on one side of the tracks, as is typical of the NHL branches. And, a rebuilt Georgetown station has already been approved. East Bridgeport... where and why? Unless overhead catenary is going to be installed the entire length of Industrial Track 5, I can't see a station being built in Orange. Nexis, these questions and comments aren't intended to counter your post at all. I'm just wondering how developers and communities arrive at some of their conclusions. The New East Stamford station would be after Hamilton Ave. Part of a Massive Redevelopment project , converting the Factories into Dense living , Retail , and Office space. Looking at the area , you'll need to build a flyover for the New Canaan Branch which is possible. Idk , the project seems on hold , or at least on the back burner. There is a proposed streetcar network for Stamford , that would eliminate the need for this state and enhance ridership on the New Canaan Branch. The Downtown Norwalk station is being proposed due to the recent Urban Renewal underway in Norwalk. You will probably see the Georgetown and Extension line stations built first before Downtown Norwalk is built. Alot of these small cities such as Norwalk or Stamford could easily build a streetcar network to take some strain off the South Norwalk station... The only reason stations like East Stamford , Downtown Norwalk , East Bridgeport , Orange and West Haven are proposed or built , is because in CT everybody drives to the stations. Thus once a parking lot like Fairfield or New Haven fills up a New station is proposed , this would not and does not happen in NJ or PA because a Bus or other type of Rail is available. East Bridgeport i lost the article to that , but it would be a part of a Massive Redevelopment in East Bridgeport. The Orange station is located on Oxford Road and is on hold , it too is part of a Massive Redevelopment project. At first i didn't understand , but after some research it made some sense. But each state is different , CT is different then NJ and NY. NJ and NY would enhance the bus connections in the region were the pressure is , NJ & NY also have great Interstate Bus service to the city , CT does not. There Developments near the Train stations are selling out pretty fast and our popular with NYC commuters and other small cities like Norwalk , Stamford , Bridgeport and New Haven. This whole concept started in NJ , but just recently has reached NY and CT which is doing it larger and taller then we did in NJ. The Towns and Cities mostly look to New stations to revive struggling areas and dying neighborhoods and they do. It usually takes 4-7 years for the area to turn around and depends on where the line goes.... The largest project underway in this region that is built around a Rail system is happening in Harrison,NJ. The Development will be built around the PATH station ,and the City is requesting the old Morristown line station by reopening to take pressure off the PATH. Now you'll probably asking why reopen at a station , well the Development will add over 45-60,000 New customers to the Harrison PATH and most of these customers will be from the development. The City wants to people living in the old Harrison to have access to a station aswell , same is happening along parts of the NHL and in CT in general. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutgers Tube Posted July 5, 2011 Share #98 Posted July 5, 2011 First off, you gave a great response above. Looking at the area , you'll need to build a flyover for the New Canaan Branch which is possible. A flyover? With catenary? I don't even think there's enough room there to build an approach with a negotiable grade. Hamilton Avenue is also right near the current Glenbrook Station. NJ and NY would enhance the bus connections in the region were the pressure is , NJ & NY also have great Interstate Bus service to the city , CT does not. I don't mean to go far off topic, but that's such a great point, and I'd really like to see a stronger push for increased bus service from CTTransit, Coastal Link, GBT and the others. Any idea as to where Connecticut currently stands on this, and your thoughts for the future? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted July 5, 2011 Share #99 Posted July 5, 2011 First off, you gave a great response above. A flyover? With catenary? I don't even think there's enough room there to build an approach with a negotiable grade. Hamilton Avenue is also right near the current Glenbrook Station. I don't mean to go far off topic, but that's such a great point, and I'd really like to see a stronger push for increased bus service from CTTransit, Coastal Link, GBT and the others. Any idea as to where Connecticut currently stands on this, and your thoughts for the future? bus service in CT is feeder style if it were to go to NYC it would have low usage due to duplicating metro-north. However I believe that CTtransit's intrastate service should improve. I did create a preliminary transit proposal for CT however I will release details soon. CT has intercity buses all over and on the I84 corridor. The weakness is the lack of organization they are way too many transit districts however they seem to be willing to work together as proved by the coastal link. Other rtes will be born a bridgeport-to danbury line is in the works soon however I believe fairfield county has an isolated network. I would make the I-287 rail corridor an extension of the new cannan and Shore line east trains. Then try to extend the port jefferson line to waterbury via bridgeport Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
qjtransitmaster Posted July 5, 2011 Share #100 Posted July 5, 2011 The New East Stamford station would be after Hamilton Ave. Part of a Massive Redevelopment project , converting the Factories into Dense living , Retail , and Office space. Looking at the area , you'll need to build a flyover for the New Canaan Branch which is possible. Idk , the project seems on hold , or at least on the back burner. There is a proposed streetcar network for Stamford , that would eliminate the need for this state and enhance ridership on the New Canaan Branch. The Downtown Norwalk station is being proposed due to the recent Urban Renewal underway in Norwalk. You will probably see the Georgetown and Extension line stations built first before Downtown Norwalk is built. Alot of these small cities such as Norwalk or Stamford could easily build a streetcar network to take some strain off the South Norwalk station... The only reason stations like East Stamford , Downtown Norwalk , East Bridgeport , Orange and West Haven are proposed or built , is because in CT everybody drives to the stations. Thus once a parking lot like Fairfield or New Haven fills up a New station is proposed , this would not and does not happen in NJ or PA because a Bus or other type of Rail is available. East Bridgeport i lost the article to that , but it would be a part of a Massive Redevelopment in East Bridgeport. The Orange station is located on Oxford Road and is on hold , it too is part of a Massive Redevelopment project. At first i didn't understand , but after some research it made some sense. But each state is different , CT is different then NJ and NY. NJ and NY would enhance the bus connections in the region were the pressure is , NJ & NY also have great Interstate Bus service to the city , CT does not. There Developments near the Train stations are selling out pretty fast and our popular with NYC commuters and other small cities like Norwalk , Stamford , Bridgeport and New Haven. This whole concept started in NJ , but just recently has reached NY and CT which is doing it larger and taller then we did in NJ. The Towns and Cities mostly look to New stations to revive struggling areas and dying neighborhoods and they do. It usually takes 4-7 years for the area to turn around and depends on where the line goes.... The largest project underway in this region that is built around a Rail system is happening in Harrison,NJ. The Development will be built around the PATH station ,and the City is requesting the old Morristown line station by reopening to take pressure off the PATH. Now you'll probably asking why reopen at a station , well the Development will add over 45-60,000 New customers to the Harrison PATH and most of these customers will be from the development. The City wants to people living in the old Harrison to have access to a station aswell , same is happening along parts of the NHL and in CT in general. true but won't some stations slow down service in CT???? ppl in CT seem to want the service but don't like the idea of increased travel time care to elaborate Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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