metsfan Posted March 21, 2011 Share #26 Posted March 21, 2011 For a very long time LIRR was under PRR control, so there was no way it was going to connect with the new york central owned grand central terminal. After LIRR was abandoned by PRR the MTA started planning to connect it, in the 70's they put the tube in the river (the upper portion which is used by the ) but then the money ran out. This project is finally being completed, and will help long islanders connect with the rest of new york much more easily. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Redbirdfan33 Posted March 21, 2011 Share #27 Posted March 21, 2011 I wish they'd get SAS done first, otherwise crowds are going to go up on the Lex Av Lines. Railraods are more important than subways. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted March 21, 2011 Share #28 Posted March 21, 2011 Once they finish they should move the TBM's to the Second Avenue Subway. Same with the extension's TBM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted March 21, 2011 Share #29 Posted March 21, 2011 Railraods are more important than subways. Depends on how you look at it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted March 22, 2011 Share #30 Posted March 22, 2011 Hey QSC also created this. It would be cool if the Mods *merged* this in the LIRR thread. Also any word if this project still plans to bulid a so called "Sunnyside" station on this new GCT line as well? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted March 22, 2011 Share #31 Posted March 22, 2011 Nope. Sunnyside station is not in the plans. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexis4Jersey Posted March 23, 2011 Share #32 Posted March 23, 2011 Once they finish they should move the TBM's to the Second Avenue Subway. Same with the extension's TBM. TBMs are using designed for that project , so the 7 line TBMs would not be used for SAS.... TBMs are usually buried after the Tunnel is complete or the parts are sold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nexis4Jersey Posted March 23, 2011 Share #33 Posted March 23, 2011 Railraods are more important than subways. Subways are actually more important then the RR in this case..... SAS needs to chinese style rushed....this project could have waited another decade. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted March 23, 2011 Share #34 Posted March 23, 2011 Railraods are more important than subways. In NYC it is a stupid thing to say subway isn't important. Good luck moving all those people on the surface. The NYC subway moves as many people in its system than are at street level, think about that for a second. Including busses, trucks, cars etc. Turn the subway off, all the sudden NY doesn't work so well. Railroads are, in general, for moving larger numbers of people on longer distances. Commuter railroads have stations in or near population centers. The subway serves areas in the same city. Once they finish they should move the TBM's to the Second Avenue Subway. Same with the extension's TBM. I don't think they are either the right size or have the right drilling head for digging in manhattan. Also, they would need to be separate contracts. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R68love Posted March 24, 2011 Share #35 Posted March 24, 2011 Cool.B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted March 24, 2011 Share #36 Posted March 24, 2011 "Commuter railroads have stations in or near population centers. The subway serves areas in the same city." LOL. The LIRR actually has too less seating on some branches ATM and they already run long trains. So I say this is definetly important. Btw, LIRR moves in the same city too. What to think of Penn-->Jamaica and the City Terminal Zone? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted March 25, 2011 Share #37 Posted March 25, 2011 "Commuter railroads have stations in or near population centers. The subway serves areas in the same city." LOL. The LIRR actually has too less seating on some branches ATM and they already run long trains. So I say this is definetly important. Btw, LIRR moves in the same city too. What to think of Penn-->Jamaica and the City Terminal Zone? I'm well aware of the "city terminal zone" stations, located at the west end of a 100+ mile long commuter railroad system on long island. The terminal zone stations, especially long island city & flatbush/atlantic terminal are largely political and actually see very few trains per hour. Jamaica is like that due to how the railroad was built and then modified over time. The central branch was removed in building levittown (ROW still intact), as well as it being the end of 2 subway lines etc. If you look throughout history you can see urban areas often have more than one station. just look at any old railroad map. http://www.west2k.com/pastations/philadelphia.shtml - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted March 30, 2011 Share #38 Posted March 30, 2011 LIC is not political. LIC is a former important station. Atlantic Terminal though sees quite some trains per hour, so I wouldn't call that "very few". Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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