TheSubwayStation Posted June 18, 2012 Share #1126 Posted June 18, 2012 operates in two sections: 179th Street, Queens-57th Street, Manhattan West 4th Street, Manhattan-Coney Island, Brooklyn As for keeping the , those riders got screwed for WAY too long and the M is a popular line from Broadway-Brooklyn, plus, it does help cut down the crowds to Lexington-53rd. That's why I do it that way I do. OH MY GOD...THERE ARE MORE BROOKLYN RIDERS THAN RIDERS!!! Please don't try to deny this...You will screw up more people's commutes by cutting the . As for using the TM tracks on the C from Hoyt-Schermehorn, that is specifically to keep the A express in Brooklyn because otherwise, politicians, especially those on the Lefferts line might very well get upset even if the A went local because of an emergency. If they are aware of the TM tracks, they probably would insist on those being used to keep the C running in Brooklyn if necessary in order for the A to stay express no matter what (outside of overnights). Have you given ANY thought to the fact that the Transit Museum tracks stop at an ABANDONED PLATFORM with NO FUNCTIONING EXITS TO THE STREET? By the way, the train running local only adds FOUR MINUTES. As a temporary service change, do you really expect politicians to get mad? Now I only say that this is foamerish because you do this on practically every scenario, even when there's a perfectly good way to keep all trains running smoothly.It's not foamerish. It just makes no sense. The term "foamer" seems to be losing it's meaning, and is now used to describe any railfan who comes up with ridiculous ideas. If you want to learn what "foamerish" means, feel free to do so: 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgor Posted June 18, 2012 Share #1127 Posted June 18, 2012 NEXT Because of a mechanical problem, 6 Av/53 St Junction is impassable. Affected: runs between W 4th Street and Brighton Beach runs in 2 sections: 205th Street to 145th Street - W 4th Street to Coney Island runs in 2 sections: 179th Street to 57th Street - 42nd Street to Coney Island runs in 2 sections: Forest Hills to 53rd/Lexington Av - 42nd Street to Metropolitan Av runs between Jamaica Center and 53rd/Lexington Av The local terminate at 42nd Street while the express terminate at W 4th in order to avoid switching problems ----- NEXT Due to switching failure, the downtown Central Park West tracks must connect with the 6th Avenue express tracks. That means all southbound trains coming down Central Park West MUST turn onto 53rd Street and then end up on the 6th Avenue express tracks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted June 18, 2012 Share #1128 Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) NEXT Due to switching failure, the downtown Central Park West tracks must connect with the 6th Avenue express tracks. That means all southbound trains coming down Central Park West MUST turn onto 53rd Street and then end up on the 6th Avenue express tracks. Local north of 59 St, also local in Brooklyn; downtown trains run via 6 Av express suspended suspended runs local in the Bronx downtown trains run via 8 Av local EDIT: trains will run until all equipment can be laid up or sent to Pitkin or Coney Island Yard. Edited June 18, 2012 by TheSubwayStation 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted June 18, 2012 Share #1129 Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) Downtown trains run via the , then , between 59 St and West 4 St. No trains between 34 St-Penn Station and 168 St. No trains between Broad St and 71 Av. Trains in Queens become ®s between Whitehall St and 71 Av. Solution to my problem: Trains run via Broadway Express and 63 St, then via the to 179 St. Shuttle trains run between 205 St and World Trade Center. Trains run via 63 St and Broadway Express to Pacific St. No trains between 42 St-Bryant Park and 179 St. Use the and transfer at 34 St for alternative service. No trains between 71 Av and West 4 St. Trains run via the between Dekalb Av and 57 St in both directions. NEXT Because of a washout, the 53 St tunnel is unusable between 23 St-Court Sq and 5 Av, inclusive. Edited June 18, 2012 by NX Express 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgor Posted June 18, 2012 Share #1130 Posted June 18, 2012 NEXT Because of a washout, the 53 St tunnel is unusable between 23 St-Court Sq and 5 Av, inclusive. runs on the between W 4th and Queens to Broad Street 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted June 18, 2012 Share #1131 Posted June 18, 2012 Because of a washout, the 53 St tunnel is unusable between 23 St-Court Sq and 5 Av, inclusive. via on 6th Avenue West 4th, Manhattan to 71st-Continental, Queens extended to 71st-Continental, Queens is re-routed via the West 4th-168th Street, Manhattan (select trains terminate at 59th-Columbus Circle) 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgor Posted June 18, 2012 Share #1132 Posted June 18, 2012 via on 6th Avenue West 4th, Manhattan to 71st-Continental, Queens extended to 71st-Continental, Queens is re-routed via the West 4th-168th Street, Manhattan (select trains terminate at 59th-Columbus Circle) ... I'll ignore the foaming but respond as to why this would not work: For this to work, not only would the have to share the tracks with the on Central Park West, but with the between Columbus Circle and 42nd Street, and then with the to Downtown. All of this switching would cause delays on the , plus delays on the due to the being delayed. Terminating it at 57th Street would cause less delays than your ridiculous solution. And I didn't even talk about how illogical and moronic it would be to send the to somewhere where it clearly shouldn't be. Doing so would make its route longer than it currently is when it goes to Queens, which would require you to either add additional trains or increase headways. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted June 18, 2012 Share #1133 Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) Remember that the is running via the on 6 Av, so the would not fit there. If the runs via 8 Av (as stated), it does not interfere with the , nor the . The next best alternative would be to cut it to Broad St and increase service north of Whitehall (that would probably be better, as a matter of fact), but Wallyhorse wanted to keep the in Midtown. Edited June 18, 2012 by NX Express 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted June 18, 2012 Share #1134 Posted June 18, 2012 Some people, including Wallyhorse, seem to overestimate the importance of midtown service...Anyway, NEXT: No trains can use BMT east river crossings (Montague St tunnel, Manhattan Bridge, Williamsburg Bridge, 14 St tunnel, 60 St tunnel). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted June 18, 2012 Share #1135 Posted June 18, 2012 That looks fun... After West 4 St, trains run via the to Church Av. After West 4 St, trains run via the to Coney Island, then through to Atlantic Av/Barclays. No trains between Queensboro Plaza and 36 St. No trains between Prospect Park and Ditmars Bl. No trains between Jay St-Metrotech and Whitehall St. Trains run between Manhattan and Queens via 63 St. Additional trains run between 59 St/Lex and Whitehall St. No service between Marcy Av and Essex St. No service west of Bedford Av. Shuttle NEXT Washout at 23 St. cannot pass the area. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Express Posted June 18, 2012 Share #1136 Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) NEXT There is structural failure on the Jerome Av EL between 161 St and Woodlawn. This structural failure has also caused the 125 St, 138 St, and 149 St to lose power. IMPASSIBLE 161 St to Woodlawn 149 St 138 St 125 St NOTE Trains can stop at 149 St Edited June 18, 2012 by trainguy97 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Express Posted June 18, 2012 Share #1137 Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) NEXT Washout at 23 St. cannot pass the area. Bedford Park Blvd to Coney Island (Grand CC/CPW/Brighton Local/6 Av Express) WTC to Jamaica Center (8 Av/Queens Blvd Local) Church Av to 71 Av (PS/Viaduct/Crosstown/Queens Blvd Local) Times Sq to Astoria Ditmars (Broadway/Astoria Local) No Service Whitehall St to 95 St (4 Av Local) Whitehall St to 14 St (Broadway Local) 59 St to Coney Island (Sea Beach Local) City Hall to New Lots Av (Eastern Pkwy Local) 42 St to Woodlawn (Lexington Av Express/Jerome Av Local) Dyre Av Shuttle 42 St to Pelham Bay Pkwy (Lexington Av/Pelham Local) 3 Av to Pelham Bay Pkwy (Pelham Express) NOTE Some trains may run 7 Av Local for the some trains turn at 14 St to the May go to Flatbush Av (7 Av/Eastern Pkwy Local) Edited June 18, 2012 by trainguy97 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j express Posted June 18, 2012 Share #1138 Posted June 18, 2012 , NEXT: No trains can use BMT east river crossings (Montague St tunnel, Manhattan Bridge, Williamsburg Bridge, 14 St tunnel, 60 St tunnel). runs between 34st and the Bronx. in Brooklyn runs between Altantic Av and Coney Island. no service between Court st and Queensboro Plaza. runs between Prospect Park and Coney Island. runs between Forest Hills and Whitehall st via 63st. shuttle runs every 20 min between 59st snd 95st. no service between Broad st and Marcy Av. skip stop suspended. shuttle. no service between 8th av and Bedford Av. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted June 18, 2012 Share #1139 Posted June 18, 2012 NEXT There is structural failure on the Jerome Av EL between 161 St and Woodlawn. This structural failure has also caused the 125 St, 138 St, and 149 St to lose power. IMPASSIBLE 161 St to Woodlawn 149 St 138 St 125 St NOTE Trains can stop at 149 St Stops at 155 and 163 St. Runs to Bedford Park Blvd all day. Runs to Bedford Park Blvd. Rush hour express service suspended. Additional trains operate between 205 St and 2 Av. Rerouted, after 135 St, to 149 St. Terminates at 149 St/3 Av and relays via Jackson Av middle track. No trains north of 86 St. At 86 St, a T/O will board at the other end of the train to quicken relays. Runs via the in Manhattan. No trains between 138 and 86 St. At 86 St, a T/O will board at the other end of the train to quicken relays. Jamaica Center to Brighton Beach (Nassau Express/Brighton Local) WHY? WHY? You'll confuse too many people. And where are the extra R160 4-car sets going to come from? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Express Posted June 18, 2012 Share #1140 Posted June 18, 2012 (edited) WHY? WHY? You'll confuse too many people. And where are the extra R160 4-car sets going to come from? Fine then. The post has been revised. Bedford Park Blvd to Coney Island (Grand CC/CPW/Brighton Local/6 Av Express) Edited June 18, 2012 by trainguy97 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CDTA Posted June 18, 2012 Share #1141 Posted June 18, 2012 Some people, including Wallyhorse, seem to overestimate the importance of midtown service...Anyway, NEXT: No trains can use BMT east river crossings (Montague St tunnel, Manhattan Bridge, Williamsburg Bridge, 14 St tunnel, 60 St tunnel). Terminates at Bedford Ave Terminates at Marcy Ave Operates as a shuttle Increased to 20TPH, and extended to QBL, also gets cut back to Bedford-Nostrand Via 6th Ave to Court St Via CI, Sea Beach, local Bay Ridge-36th Via Express Lexington Ave-Whitehall Rd Via Local All spares are used on all IRT Service Terminates at 2nd Ave Terminates at Delancey Via Chrystie St Franklin Ave-CI All trains run local from Utica Ave to Clinton-Wash Canal-57th Via Express Suspended In Astoria Note: There will be MAJOR fleet changes 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted June 19, 2012 Share #1142 Posted June 19, 2012 NEXT: Due to huge power failure at Barclays Ctr, no trains can enter station. Affects: , , , , , , , , , LIRR 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted June 19, 2012 Share #1143 Posted June 19, 2012 (edited) NEXT:No trains can use BMT east river crossings (Montague St tunnel, Manhattan Bridge, Williamsburg Bridge, 14 St tunnel, 60 St tunnel). normal on 6th Avenue and then operates via the to Coney Island (express in both directions to/from Church Avenue and peak direction express to/from Avenue X) before going through and continuing to Prospect Park, Brooklyn via regular route in a loop. is suspended due to the using the Cranberry Street Tunnel. For 50th Street-8th Avenue, take or to 7th Avenue for the , which is running normal service. operates normal on 6th Avenue and then operates via the in lower Manhattan to Jay Street, Brooklyn, then via the to Coney Island (express in both directions to/from Church Avenue and peak direction express to/from Avenue X) before going through and continuing to Atlantic Avenue-Barclays Center OR DeKalb Avenue, Brooklyn via regular route in a loop. is extended to 71st-Continental with select trains extended to 179th Street. Most trains terminate at Marcy Avenue ( shuttle Essex Street-Broad Street in Manhattan). Select trains operate between Broadway Junction and Jamaica Center ONLY. terminates at Bedford Avenue shuttle Metropolitan-Myrtle ONLY runs in three sections: Ditmars Boulevard, Astoria-Queensboro Plaza, Queens Lexington Avenue and 60th Street-Whitehall Street, Manhattan (select trains terminate at 14th-Union Square and run light to Canal Street to change tracks there, going back into service at Canal Street to 60th-Lex) DeKalb Avenue to Coney Island, Brooklyn. runs in two sections: 71st-Continental, Queens-Whitehall Street, Manhattan, via 63rd Street tunnel 95th Street to Atlantic Avenue, Brooklyn (during this shutdown, this service operates 24/7) is reduced to 300' trains and runs from Coney Island-Botanic Garden station, terminating on the Prospect Park-bound platform. runs as a single, two-car train between Franklin Avenue and Botanic Garden, terminating on the Franklin Avenue-bound platform at Botanic Garden. Edited June 19, 2012 by Wallyhorse 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgor Posted June 19, 2012 Share #1144 Posted June 19, 2012 NEXT: Due to huge power failure at Barclays Ctr, no trains can enter station. Affects: , , , , , , , , , LIRR Barclays Ctr = Atlantic Avenue? I can do this without suspending any trains: SERVICE CHANGE MAP runs in 2 sections: The Bronx to Chambers Street - Franklin Av to Flatbush runs in 2 sections: 148th to Chambers Street - Franklin Av to New Lots Av terminates at Borough Hall terminates at Bowling Green runs between the Bronx and Broadway-Lafayette runs between the Bronx and Coney Island via the after West 4th Street SHUTTLE also operates between 36th Street and Coney Island. operates between Queens and Whitehall Street SHUTTLE also operates between 59th Street and Coney Island operates between Queens and Jay Street SHUTTLE also operates between 36th Street and 95th Street operates between Prospect Park and Coney Island 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted June 19, 2012 Share #1145 Posted June 19, 2012 normal on 6th Avenue and then operates via the to Coney Island (express in both directions to/from Church Avenue and peak direction express to/from Avenue X) before going through and continuing to Prospect Park, Brooklyn via regular route in a loop. is reduced to 300' trains and runs from Coney Island-Botanic Garden station, terminating on the Prospect Park-bound platform. runs as a single, two-car train between Franklin Avenue and Botanic Garden, terminating on the Franklin Avenue-bound platform at Botanic Garden. Re:: a train can't go from the to the . Check a track map. Re: Why do you keep suggesting this? A 300' train won't fit into Botanic Garden station anyway. NEXT Uptown local tracks impassable at all 23 St stations in Manhattan. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted June 19, 2012 Share #1146 Posted June 19, 2012 (edited) EDIT: WHOOPS! I thought you said ALL tracks at 23 St impassable. Let's say that was the case: 242 St - 34 St-Penn Station; downtown trains run express from 96 St to 42 St, uptown trains run express from 42 St to 96 St runs in two sections; 241 St - 34 St-Penn Station, Flatbush Av - Chambers St; trains relay north of the station suspended; trains can access Lenox Yard or Livonia Yard runs in two sections; New Lots Av - Brooklyn Bridge, Woodlawn - Grand Central-42 St, some Manhattan bound trains can terminate at 149 St-Grand Concourse if Necessary runs in two sections; Flatbush Av - Chambers St station (signed as a train to avoid confusion), Dyre Av - E 180 St Pelham Bay Park - Grand Central-42 St, some Manhattan bound trains can terminate at 3 Av-138 St if necessary runs in two sections; 207 St - 59 St-Columbus Circle, Far Rockaway/Lefferts Blvd - Canal St 145 St/Bedford Pk Blvd - 34 St-Herald Sq suspended runs in two sections; 205 St - 34 St/Herald Sq (via CPW local), Coney Island - Whitehall St station Jamaica Center - Lexington Av/53 St runs in two sections; Jamaica-179 St - 47-50 Sts/Rockefeller Ctr, Coney Island - Delancey St Metropolitan Av - West 4 St runs in two sections; Astoria - 34 St-Herald Sq, Coney Island - Atlantic Av Coney Island - Prospect Park runs in two sections; 71 Av - 34 St-Herald Sq, Bay Ridge-95 St - Whitehall St Edited June 19, 2012 by TheSubwayStation 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted June 19, 2012 Share #1147 Posted June 19, 2012 (edited) NEXT Uptown local tracks impassable at all 23 St stations in Manhattan. Ooh... A Division: : Via Express. : Normal. : Suspended, use extended , shuttle bus, and . : Normal service, extended to New Lots Avenue in Brooklyn. : E. 180th Street-Dyre Avenue : Via Express. B Division: : Suspended. : Normal Service. : Via Express. : Chambers Street-Queens. : Normal service. : Via express. : Lex Avenue-53rd Street-Jamaica Center. One track Shuttle trains operate b/w 50th Street & Lex Avenue. & : Via Express. : Suspended in Manhattan. Barclays Ctr = Atlantic Avenue? This takes place next year when the stadium opens, during the Jay-Z concert. NEXT: Another power failure at PABT causes all of Times Square to black out. No trains can enter any 42nd Street station b/w 6th Avenue & 8th Avenue. The is exempt. Any switches surrounding the station can be used, but that's all. Edited June 19, 2012 by ThrexxBus 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Wallyhorse Posted June 20, 2012 Share #1148 Posted June 20, 2012 Re: : a train can't go from the to the . Check a track map. Re: Why do you keep suggesting this? A 300' train won't fit into Botanic Garden station anyway. NEXT Uptown local tracks impassable at all 23 St stations in Manhattan. Re: : a train can't go from the to the . Check a track map. Re: Why do you keep suggesting this? A 300' train won't fit into Botanic Garden station anyway. Actually, I looked at pics of the platforms at Botanic Garden from recent years, and I believe those platforms WOULD be able to fit a 300' train. In a situation like what is suggested, that would crucial to get a transfer between the (2)/(3)/(4)/(5) and Brighton line since that would be the main way of getting there. As for the , I didn't realize that could not change directions, so with that in mind, modifying what I said earlier: runs to/from 2nd Avenue station. runs Coney Island-Botantic Garden station, using the Prospect Park-bound track to terminate (300' trains only). Franklin Avenue runs a single train between Botanic Garden and Franklin Avenue on the Franklin Avenue-bound track Shuttle trains run single track in both directions on both tracks between Prospect Park and Atlantic Avenue station. Everything else stays as is. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Express Posted June 20, 2012 Share #1149 Posted June 20, 2012 NEXT Due to three consecutive incidents on the Lexington Av Line , Bowling Green, City Hall, and 125 St are all out of power. Run an on the Lexington if you want to. Just reroute away. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
VWM Posted June 20, 2012 Author Share #1150 Posted June 20, 2012 NEXT: Another power failure at PABT causes all of Times Square to black out. No trains can enter any 42nd Street station b/w 6th Avenue & 8th Avenue. The is exempt. Any switches surrounding the station can be used, but that's all. I'm assuming you don't mean Bryant Park-42 Street. no trains between 34 and 59 Streets via from W 4 to 59 Street via to 2 Avenue replaces in Queens Runs in two sections: Essex - Metro and Lexington - Continental runs in two sections: 57 Street - Astoria and Whitehall - CI turn at 34 Street no service south of 137 Street no service between 34 and 96 Streets to South Ferry replaces in Brooklyn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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