CPBO Posted December 14, 2011 Share #1 Posted December 14, 2011 New York’s top court says a man who used his unlimited-ride MetroCard to let another rider into the subway for money didn’t commit larceny. The Court of Appeals yesterday unanimously reversed Joseph Hightower’s misdemeanor conviction for petty larceny, finding that NYC Transit never owned the money. Read more: New York’s highest court reverses larceny conviction of man who used MetroCard to swipe another rider into the subway - NYPOST.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPBO Posted December 14, 2011 Author Share #2 Posted December 14, 2011 Why are we wasting our tax dollars on $%^& like this?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted December 14, 2011 Share #3 Posted December 14, 2011 The needs to get a grip. If they only knew how many people do this. Hell anytime I go to visit clients and use my Unlimited Express Bus Plus card, you better believe that my boss is going to reimburse me for it and anyone who uses my card will be charged for it. They are so full of it. They would rather harass folks that actually PAY for their service rather than go after farebeaters, who are the real problem. Now if this guy was one of those folks that are down in the Union Square station trying to get folks to pay them to swipe them with an Unlimited Metrocard then I can understand, but if this wasn't the case then leave them alone. :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted December 14, 2011 Share #4 Posted December 14, 2011 http://www.nytimes.com/2011/12/14/nyregion/selling-metrocard-swipes-isnt-larceny-new-york-court-of-appeals-rules.html A longer article^. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriboroughBridge Posted December 15, 2011 Share #5 Posted December 15, 2011 Why are we wasting our tax dollars on $%^& like this?? Let me ask you, as a bus operator, why are disabled people able to skip the fare? I see this a lot, the bus operator helps them on the bus & they just "forget" about paying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rr4567 Posted December 15, 2011 Share #6 Posted December 15, 2011 The needs to get a grip. If they only knew how many people do this. Hell anytime I go to visit clients and use my Unlimited Express Bus Plus card, you better believe that my boss is going to reimburse me for it and anyone who uses my card will be charged for it. They are so full of it. They would rather harass folks that actually PAY for their service rather than go after farebeaters, who are the real problem. Now if this guy was one of those folks that are down in the Union Square station trying to get folks to pay them to swipe them with an Unlimited Metrocard then I can understand, but if this wasn't the case then leave them alone. :mad: The guy sold a swipe using an unlimited. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted December 15, 2011 Share #7 Posted December 15, 2011 The guy sold a swipe using an unlimited. Yeah the original article didn't clarify that. In any event, are they going to after every person that sells a swipe using an unlimited? I've done it before and someone who has a Pay-Per-Ride could do it too and make some money, but not nearly as much of course. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPBO Posted December 16, 2011 Author Share #8 Posted December 16, 2011 Let me ask you, as a bus operator, why are disabled people able to skip the fare? I see this a lot, the bus operator helps them on the bus & they just "forget" about paying. These people are on the honor system...they are suppose to pay upon boarding the bus...if the bus is packed how do you suppose these people pay...excuse me I need to get to the front of the bus to pay...unload the bus...I need to pay my fare....the way things are set up with the older buses going thru the back door is not practical....and I don't want to handle somebody's metrocard...I can see the road that could go down...why am I missing 2 fares....etc.. I am sure one of the factors the new buses have the wheelchair in the front is so when they pass right by the farebox they can pay.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPBO Posted December 16, 2011 Author Share #9 Posted December 16, 2011 Yeah the original article didn't clarify that. B) In any event, are they going to after every person that sells a swipe using an unlimited? I've done it before and someone who has a Pay-Per-Ride could do it too and make some money, but not nearly as much of course. Im sure it was not past the 18 minute wait time from the original swipe....yae the article was not clear on that..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriboroughBridge Posted December 18, 2011 Share #10 Posted December 18, 2011 These people are on the honor system...they are suppose to pay upon boarding the bus...if the bus is packed how do you suppose these people pay...excuse me I need to get to the front of the bus to pay...unload the bus...I need to pay my fare....the way things are set up with the older buses going thru the back door is not practical....and I don't want to handle somebody's metrocard...I can see the road that could go down...why am I missing 2 fares....etc.. I am sure one of the factors the new buses have the wheelchair in the front is so when they pass right by the farebox they can pay.... I've seen plenty of times, when I'm either on a new bus (so they come in from the front) or the bus is empty & yet they still dont pay. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CPBO Posted December 18, 2011 Author Share #11 Posted December 18, 2011 I've seen plenty of times, when I'm either on a new bus (so they come in from the front) or the bus is empty & yet they still dont pay. I guess old habits are hard to break.... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriboroughBridge Posted December 18, 2011 Share #12 Posted December 18, 2011 I guess old habits are hard to break.... LOL, but I heard a B/O saying to someone once, that one of the main "fare beaters" are, ADA customers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RokuSix Posted December 18, 2011 Share #13 Posted December 18, 2011 Do people actually profit from this? I mean, having to stand around awkwardly for 18 minutes every single time just to make $2.25 seems a little silly. With that being said, though, I don't think it should be illegal. I have had to swipe for people plenty of times in stations *cough* Union Square *cough* where all the machines weren't working and the token booth was on the other side of the universe. People really appreciated it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
error46146 Posted December 19, 2011 Share #14 Posted December 19, 2011 I doubt this is that profitable..you might be able to pay off the cost of the card, but unless if you're doing this every day 12 hours a day you won't be able to profit that much. I once saw a guy with 3 monthlys selling select bus tickets at the M15 stop..i guess some people do find value in doing this.. The rule only prohibits selling rides with a metrocard..AFAIK does not mention anything about swiping people in for free or sharing an unlimited card (which I and many many other people do all the time)..the article is short and vague so I can't comment much on that here As for the bus driver and the ADA statement I completely agree it is unbelievable how often wheelchairs get on the bus for free (on top of delaying the bus with hundreds of paying customers waiting).. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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