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Nevins St Lower Level Question

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How feasible is it to build trackage connecting the IRT local tracks to the never-used Nevins St lower level? Also, what is the configuration for the northbound bellmouth in that area? I know southbound the bellmouth from upper level to lower level is between Hoyt and Nevins but northbound I am not 100% sure where the bellmouth from lower level to upper level is. There was this paragraph below from Brennan's guide to disused stations (http://www.columbia....ned/nevins.html):

 

"The ramp to the lower level can be seen after Hoyt St station, and the ramp back up can be seen approaching Atlantic Ave station. Track was never laid. The trackway is no longer continuous. When the Independent subway was built in 1929-1937, it was allowed to cut through the lower level."

 

However this paragraph is a little unclear because I would think the bellmouth for the northbound train traffic would be between Nevins and Hoyt, like the southbound bellmouth. This paragraph seems to be saying that the northbound bellmouth is between Atlantic and Nevins. I do not understand.

 

Also, who is the subchatter that called/calls himself/herself the tunnel rat (http://www.subchat.c...d.asp?Id=168260)? Does s/he have photographs of Nevins St LL? Where can I find his/her photographs of Nevins LL and other unused parts of the subway system? It was implied in that subchat thread that s/he posts his/her photographs of unused parts of the subway system to the web; I would like to know where.

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Tunnel Rat is..... Tunnel Rat. you do not question Tunnel Rat.

 

 

you do not understand the paragraph because your are trying to figure out something that's not there. There is no northbound anything for the lower level. there never was.

 

Nevins lower is southbound only. the second ramp is to return trains to the main line. The line Nevins lower was ment to connect with out have connected to the northbound side between Atlantic and Nevins and trains would have used the normal manhattan bound platform.

 

study this

 

http://nycsubway.org/perl/caption.pl?/img/maps/brennan-irt-contract2.gif

 

and you head will hurt less

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Tunnel Rat is..... Tunnel Rat. you do not question Tunnel Rat.

 

Word.

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Also, if you were considering any kind of revenue service to that hole in the ground below Nevins St (which I know you were, you extrapolated something going down here to "clean up the junction" again), just forget it. :)

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Bah. I had another excavation-free idea involving the M-track at Nevins.

 

The best idea that can be done down there is to hold a 2nd "Barclays special" (the first one being in the spur upstairs).

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But could they not just run more BMT trains as Barclays specials rather than IRT trains since the BMT trains are currently less frequent and there are many more places to store trains along the BMT lines?

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