Minato ku 631 Posted February 2, 2013 Author Share #76 Posted February 2, 2013 By route map, you mean, the map of the whole network or maps by line ? Metro/RER/suburban trains/trams in inner Paris map with street Metro/RER/suburban trains/trams in inner Paris, schematic map (Those maps cover the whole metro network). If you want map per line Click on the line that you want here There is no schedule available for the metro. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover 578 Posted February 2, 2013 Share #77 Posted February 2, 2013 By route map, you mean, the map of the whole network or maps by line ? Metro/RER/suburban trains/trams in inner Paris map with street Metro/RER/suburban trains/trams in inner Paris, schematic map (Those maps cover the whole metro network). If you want map per line Click on the line that you want here There is no schedule available for the metro. By route map, you mean, the map of the whole network or maps by line ? Metro/RER/suburban trains/trams in inner Paris map with street Metro/RER/suburban trains/trams in inner Paris, schematic map (Those maps cover the whole metro network). If you want map per line Click on the line that you want here There is no schedule available for the metro. I meant bus route map by individuals like bus schedules like "Bx12", "Q72", "M15" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
megabus 39 Posted February 2, 2013 Share #78 Posted February 2, 2013 Here is the page to get all the individual plans of bus line, subway line, tram line, RER A & B (operated by RATP). For the C, D & E line you have a general map. http://www.ratp.fr/fr/ratp/c_20559/plans-des-lignes/ And then, there is a real Atlas of the lines in "Ile de France", in and around Paris. All lines of all different operators are presented with information such as : their STIF(Transport union of the Ile de France) code, the commercial number appearing on the destination signs, the operator, kilometers performed, services, travel time, number of departure, etc... http://213.139.127.233/atlas06/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minato ku 631 Posted February 2, 2013 Author Share #79 Posted February 2, 2013 Atlas of the lines in "Ile de France" by the STIF gives outdated information, it been a while it haven't been updated. I meant bus route map by individuals like bus schedules like "Bx12", "Q72", "M15" For bus, it will be quite difficult because the network is huge. There isn't even a single map for the whole network, bus map are divided by areas like for MTA bus maps. Anyway there are individual map for each bus lines and schedules. For individual map per line Here, under "Afficher un plan de ligne de bus" write the number of the line and click on the button "valider recherche" This will open a PDF with the map of the line (the line 128 by example). Note that first bus line is #20. Schedules are very simplified, it only gives average frequencies for most lines. It is not very interesting. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minato ku 631 Posted February 2, 2013 Author Share #80 Posted February 2, 2013 RATP bus network maps (in PDF) City of Paris (inner city) Haut de Seine Sud (southwestern inner suburbs) Ouest de Paris (western inner suburbs) Haut de Seine Nord (northwestern inner suburbs) Nord de Paris (northwestern and northern inner suburbs) Seine St-Denis Ouest (northern inner suburbs) Seine St-Denis Est (northeastern inner suburbs) Est de Paris (eastern inner suburbs) Marne-la-Vallée (eastern suburbs) Val-de-Marne (southeastern inner suburbs) Sud de Paris (southern inner suburbs) Essonne Nord (southern suburbs) These maps don't show the bus lines of the other companies, this explains why the outer part of some map could seem very empty. RATP bus network mostly serves the inner city and inner suburbs while the other buses companies are mostly in outer suburbs. The map of the City of Paris doesn't show the metro lines and underground RER, while the other maps show all the heavy rail transportations available. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCRailfan523 90 Posted February 3, 2013 Share #81 Posted February 3, 2013 To go in Colombes, I took a trashed RIB car.It been a long time that I hadn't seen a train in such a bad state. The interior was full of graffiti and doors don't worked properly. I would not say that trains in Paris are always in proper state (finding a train without scratchiti is rare) but it is never as bad. Fortunately only a few cars of the train were as bad, unfortunately I was inside one. According the announcement on stations, several services on Transilien J are cancelled because of some problem with trains, it may explain why they let this train running. RIB cars will be withdrawn by 2015 and replaced by new Z50000. See post 45. I never seen a car in Paris that looked like the 1970s NYC subway. That's one bad state, and it reminds me of the 70s. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minato ku 631 Posted February 3, 2013 Author Share #82 Posted February 3, 2013 It was also the first time I saw a train like that. Usually graffiti don't stay for long, usually it is rapidly cleaned. The livery of Paris metro have been made for it, trains have stickers instead of paint as livery. In this picture (Opera line 8), you can see a remainder of a graffiti. The boundary between the clean part and the graffiti is straight, in my opinion the workers forgot to replace this sticker. The disavantage of the sticker is that trains get more easily dirty because the stickers attract dust. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minato ku 631 Posted February 4, 2013 Author Share #83 Posted February 4, 2013 Renault Agora and MAN Lion's City at Pont de Levallois (western end of metro line 3). Renault Agora is the bus #2867 in service since June 1999 MAN Lion's City is the bus #9602 in service since January 2011. There are Agora with a larger advertising space at the back. This Agora is the bus #7587 in service since May 2001. There are also Agora with smaller advertising space at the back. This Agora is the bus #7921 in service since February 2002. Before mid 2000's, buses had their number for license plate, now they have average plate number. As the buses change or get renovated, this old license plates scheme disappear. Before 2007, plate in the end of the back of the car were yellow and France changed its numbering scheme in 2009. So in France, you have a quite wide diversity of plate in the streets compared with other european country. Note that 20 years ago, plates were black. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minato ku 631 Posted February 5, 2013 Author Share #84 Posted February 5, 2013 Les Halles Les Halles is part of the big interchange of Châtelet-les-Halles in the very center of Paris with five metro lines and three RER lines. The line 4 has two sttion in this interchange, les Halles provides interchange with the RER and a direct access with Forum des Halles mall and Chatelet wich provides interchange with the metro lines and other exits. The station of Les Halles first opened in 1908. The first station was closed, demolished and replaced by a new one in 1977. The new station was bigger and closer to the RER stations. This is the actual metro station of les Halles In 2011 Les Halles had 13,113,834 entries. This doesn't include the transfer with the RER A and B. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCRailfan523 90 Posted February 5, 2013 Share #85 Posted February 5, 2013 Les Halles Les Halles is part of the big interchange of Châtelet-les-Halles in the very center of Paris with five metro lines and three RER lines. The line 4 has two sttion in this interchange, les Halles provides interchange with the RER and a direct access with Forum des Halles mall and Chatelet wich provides interchange with the metro lines and other exits. The station of Les Halles first opened in 1908. The first station was closed, demolished and replaced by a new one in 1977. The new station was bigger and closer to the RER stations. This is the actual metro station of les Halles In 2011 Les Halles had 13,113,834 entries. This doesn't include the transfer with the RER A and B. It looks just like if it was new, indeed! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm 4,456 Posted February 5, 2013 Share #86 Posted February 5, 2013 I never seen a car in Paris that looked like the 1970s NYC subway. That's one bad state, and it reminds me of the 70s. Paris was one of the meccas of the historical Hip Hop Graffiti movement in the 70's and 80's that started in the Big Apple and Los Angeles, CA then Germany and Japan. Nethertheless the City of Paris needs to continue to enact measures to enforce the bans on vandalism on transit property for the of the sake of the commuters comfort and to downplay the potentially very high costs of grafitti removal. Even as I am an avid fan of the graffiti movement as a form of true urban art, I am also an avid subway enthusiast as well. So such forms of vandalism I would find very disconcerting regardless of my respect for hip hop visual art. That being said, that pic of the vandalized train: That looks horrible. And the tags: those tags looks like chicken scratches made by toys (toys is NY slang for wannabe grafitti artists with no skills and don't know how to write.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minato ku 631 Posted February 5, 2013 Author Share #87 Posted February 5, 2013 It looks just like if it was new, indeed! In the picture, perhaps, but in reality, the station could not pass as new. Anyway the platform hall has aged quite well compared with other stations built during the 1970's. Strasbourg - Saint-Denis Under the Grands Boulevards between Richelieu-Drouot and République (both stations excluded) the line 8 and 9 are superimposed. The line 8 is in on the upper level and the line 9 on the lower level Line 8 platforms opened in 1931 and line 9 platforms in 1933. High ceiling for line 8 Low ceiling for line 9 Strasbourg - Saint-Denis station is also served by the line 4, the platforms of line 4 opened in 1908. The station had 7,346,063 entries in 2011. It is over million less entries than in 2004 but note that Strasbourg - Saint-Denis was closed or partly closed for renovation during 2011. It may explain this big decrease. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minato ku 631 Posted February 6, 2013 Author Share #88 Posted February 6, 2013 Paris RER Line E extension approved Written by David Briginshaw, Friday, February 01, 2013 THE prefects of Paris and three Ile-de-France local authorities have granted final approval, known as the declaration of public utility in France, for the extension of RER Line E from Haussmann-St Lazare 47km west to Mantes-la-Jolie. Final design and cost optimisation is already underway and should be completed in the autumn allowing construction to start next year. The extension is due to open in 2020. The €2bn project entails constructing an 8km tunnel from St Lazare to La Défense and upgrading an existing line between there, Poissy and Mantes-la-Jolie. The extension will cut journey times between western suburbs and La Défense, an important commercial centre on the west side of Paris, by up to 17 minutes. It will also provide existing Line E passengers with direct access to La Défense, and will relieve congestion by between 10 and 15% on the Auber – La Défense section of RER Line A, which Line E will parallel, and part of RER Line B. The extension will connect with RER lines A and C, metro Line 1, tram Line T2, several commuter lines, and the future Orange, Red and Green lines of the orbital Grand Paris Express network. When the extension opens Line E is expected to carry 89,000 passenger per hour in the morning peak and 620,000 passengers a day. http://www.railjournal.com/index.php/commuter-rail/paris-rer-line-e-railway-extension-approved.html?channel=641 The new extension is 55km long, including 8km in tunnel between Haussmann Saint Lazare and La Défense the rest will use renovated upgraded tracks. The extension includes three new stations will open for the extension. Two undergound stations Porte Maillot and La Défense and one in surface Nanterre La Folie. The RER E will replace some suburban services (Transilien J) to Saint-Lazare terminal. The morning rush hour today The morning rush hour toward 2020 In 2015, before the opening western extension, a new station will open in the east of inner Paris. This station will be called Rosa Parks (Evangile in the previous image). Rosa Parks station is in surface and will be connected with tram line T3b. The whole around the station is in redevelopment, tens millions sq ft of office, housing and commercial space are under in construction or planned. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minato ku 631 Posted February 7, 2013 Author Share #89 Posted February 7, 2013 Châtelet-les-Halles, old fashoned screen. Eastbound platform screen in evening rush jour. Train à quai = train at the platform Train à l'approche = train approaching High frequency ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCRailfan523 90 Posted February 8, 2013 Share #90 Posted February 8, 2013 In the picture, perhaps, but in reality, the station could not pass as new. Anyway the platform hall has aged quite well compared with other stations built during the 1970's. Strasbourg - Saint-Denis Under the Grands Boulevards between Richelieu-Drouot and République (both stations excluded) the line 8 and 9 are superimposed. The line 8 is in on the upper level and the line 9 on the lower level Line 8 platforms opened in 1931 and line 9 platforms in 1933. High ceiling for line 8 Low ceiling for line 9 Strasbourg - Saint-Denis station is also served by the line 4, the platforms of line 4 opened in 1908. The station had 7,346,063 entries in 2011. It is over million less entries than in 2004 but note that Strasbourg - Saint-Denis was closed or partly closed for renovation during 2011. It may explain this big decrease. I dislike the train in the 2nd picture, it looks very old and it needs replacement. I don't know what MP or MF it is. http://www.railjournal.com/index.php/commuter-rail/paris-rer-line-e-railway-extension-approved.html?channel=641 The new extension is 55km long, including 8km in tunnel between Haussmann Saint Lazare and La Défense the rest will use renovated upgraded tracks. The extension includes three new stations will open for the extension. Two undergound stations Porte Maillot and La Défense and one in surface Nanterre La Folie. The RER E will replace some suburban services (Transilien J) to Saint-Lazare terminal. The morning rush hour today The morning rush hour toward 2020 In 2015, before the opening western extension, a new station will open in the east of inner Paris. This station will be called Rosa Parks (Evangile in the previous image). Rosa Parks station is in surface and will be connected with tram line T3b. The whole around the station is in redevelopment, tens millions sq ft of office, housing and commercial space are under in construction or planned. Is the station named after Rosa Parks??? I don't know much about it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minato ku 631 Posted February 8, 2013 Author Share #91 Posted February 8, 2013 I dislike the train in the 2nd picture, it looks very old and it needs replacement. I don't know what MP or MF it is. MF67 built during the 70's. The MF67 of the line 9 will be replaced by the MF01 from the end of 2013. Is the station named after Rosa Parks??? I don't know much about it. The RER station is under in construction. For the moment there is a tram station named Rosa Parks in the area. The tram station is surrounded by construction sites, nothing much to see for the moment. Video of Rosa Parks RER E station http://vimeo.com/53012696 Roma Parks station is near Porte d'Aubervilliers at the limit of the 18/19th arrondissements and not far of Aubervilliers. The former industrial district in the northern side of the station is under in redevelopment. 85,000 passengers per day are planned in this new station. Rosa Parks station is the big red point in the picture. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCRailfan523 90 Posted February 9, 2013 Share #92 Posted February 9, 2013 When will be the next installation of APEDs (automatic platform edge doors) or APGs (automatic platform gates)? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minato ku 631 Posted February 9, 2013 Author Share #93 Posted February 9, 2013 For the moment, no other are planned for old stations. The old stations with platform doors planned were all the stations (25) on the line 1 and 13 stations on line 13. The installation is done. I have heard that the STIF (Paris region transportation autorities) studies the possibility to install platform doors in all the stations of the line 13. So if everything go as planned first, the next stations with platform doors will be the new four stations of the line 14 northern extension (Pont Cardinet, Porte de Clichy, Saint Ouen RER and Mairie de Saint Ouen) in 2017. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
overclocked 803 Posted February 10, 2013 Share #94 Posted February 10, 2013 Love the tiled vault underground stations, great work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minato ku 631 Posted February 10, 2013 Author Share #95 Posted February 10, 2013 I hope that you like it, because the majority of our stations are like that. Châtelet The line 11 is the shortest big line of Paris metro with 6.3km of route and 13 stations. The size of the small line will almost double as a 6km extension in eastern suburbs is under way. It will open in 2019. Note that most of this east extension was planned before the WW2. The line 11 opened in 1935 and was converted to rubber tired in 1956, It was the world's first rubber tired line. Because its garage capacities are too small, the line 11 has 4 cars train instead of five. This problem will be fixed with the extension in 2019. The rolling stock is the MP59 in service since 1964 for the oldest and one extra MP73 coming of the line 6. Chatelet, the southwestern terminal of the line 11, is with Saint-Lazare in the line 14 and Gare d'Austerlitz in line 10 one of the few a terminal metro station in Central Paris. Unlike the lines 10 or 14, no extension are planned farther in this way. Châtelet line 11 has 3 tracks, the platforms of the line opened in 1935. Chatelet is part of the big Chatelet-les-Halles interchange with 5 metro lines and 3 RER lines and 800,000 daily passengers. The platforms of the lines 7 and 11 are linked with the rest of station by a moving walkway. If you want to do a transfer between the line 11 and the RER A, you have to walk for almost 10 minutes and take two moving walkways. Paris is quite famous for its large maze underground stations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minato ku 631 Posted February 11, 2013 Author Share #96 Posted February 11, 2013 Villeneuve-Saint-Georges Villeneuve-Saint-Georges is a station located in southeastern suburbs. This is the last station RER D before the division of the line in two branches. Villeneuve-Saint-Georges has eight platforms, four used for the RER. An express service of the RER D run through the station _________________________________________________________________ The RER D is the longest RER line with 197km of route, the line has 59 stations. It was made by linking some suburban services of Gare du Nord with suburban services of Gare de Lyon by a tunnel in central Paris. There is a big difference between the south and north of the line, many southern services terminate in Gare de Lyon or Châtelet-les-Halles. There are also some services that don't serve the central section of the line. The RER D is very complicated and and too long, it makes the operation of the line quite dificult. It has a poor regularity rate. The line carry 550,000 daily passengers. Malesherbes is the farthest RER station, it is located at 60km of Central Paris. < north - south > Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover 578 Posted February 12, 2013 Share #97 Posted February 12, 2013 Excellent! It feels entire NYCTF members taking Virtual Tour of Paris Metro and Paris from their home, USA or Country. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minato ku 631 Posted February 12, 2013 Author Share #98 Posted February 12, 2013 Thank you. Some buses in Saint-Germain-en-Laye. In outer suburbs unlike in Central Paris and inner suburbs, there is a wide diversity of bus networks. Saint-Germain-en-Laye is a wealthy suburb in the west of Paris, it is a former royal town with a big castle and busy old center. Because of its RER station. Saint-Germain-en-Laye is a big bus hub. There are 9 bus networks and 18 bus lines serving the RER station. Irisbus Citelis, RATP line 258. This is the only line of the RATP network serving Saint-Germain-en-Laye Veolia Montesson "Entre Seine et Forêt" network, Mercedes Citaro G Veolia Montesson "Entre Seine et Forêt" network Heuliez GX 327 Veolia Montesson Résalys network, Mercedes Citaro Veolia Montesson Résalys network, Heuliez GX 317 Natural gas. Veolia Transport Conflans network, Mercedes Citaro As you can see the different networks are often operated by the big Veolia Transdev company. Mercedes and Heuliez buses dominate while they are almost unseen in Central Paris. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Minato ku 631 Posted February 14, 2013 Author Share #99 Posted February 14, 2013 Victor Hugo The station opened in 1900. In 1931 new platforms were open because the former platforms had a too dangerous curve for the new rolling stock. You can see the closed platforms Victor Hugo station had 3,966,843 entries in 2011. This is 120th station of network by entry. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCRailfan523 90 Posted February 14, 2013 Share #100 Posted February 14, 2013 Victor Hugo The station opened in 1900. In 1931 new platforms were open because the former platforms had a too dangerous curve for the new rolling stock. You can see the closed platforms Victor Hugo station had 3,966,843 entries in 2011. This is 120th station of network by entry. I love the new station more than that old station further down the tunnel. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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