E For Erica Posted August 22, 2013 Share #1 Posted August 22, 2013 I'm doing an assingment on people's thoughts on LGBT and I'm required to run a survey and since I'm too lazy to go around my neighborhood today I figured I post a thread open to anyone who wants to voice their thoughs and feelings about it. Transgenders particually. So what do you guy think of them ? All opinions are welcome even negative ones. At least that shows your honest thoughts on them. But comment away. & BTW I am a LGBT supporter ! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted August 22, 2013 Share #2 Posted August 22, 2013 I'll start then as a heterosexual male. I have way much more qualms about people who are assholish in general rather than a actual person's sexual orientation. Doesn't phase me personally because I know who I want as a female love interest and have no shame in it whatsoever with no hangups. I will mention (don't ask, her request not mine) that there was another transgender poster here who was a very respected member but she had to move on. Last time we chatted was in March or something like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
E For Erica Posted August 22, 2013 Author Share #3 Posted August 22, 2013 There was a trans here ? Was she pretty ? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted August 22, 2013 Share #4 Posted August 22, 2013 She only is beginning her journey so I so not know how she's shaping up at this point, as I said. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted August 22, 2013 Share #5 Posted August 22, 2013 Also speaking as a heterosexual male. Personally I don't see why anyone including myself would take issue with the gender one chooses to identify with, or even an individuals sexual orientation. Personally I like to think I'm a very open minded individual, and as such I treat everyone with a n equal amount of respect, all other traits be damned. In addition, sharing the sentiments of Realizm, the issue I take is usually with individuals who engage in using slurs, epithets, and other hate speech in relation to the LGBT community and elsewhere as well. I have zero tolerance for individuals like that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted August 23, 2013 Share #6 Posted August 23, 2013 Let me clarify: " People who are a**holes come in all colors, shapes, IQ levels, nationalities, gender, sexual orientation, and religious designation. Fact. Because it is a two way street. Otherwise the US Constitution and the Civil Rights Act guarantees equal rights for all despite of nationality, religion, or sexual orientation. On top of that the US Constitution guarantees free speech and I wished more people will honor that. That where I come from as a realist and a believer in true civil rights rather than as a ab lib ultra PC liberal which some idiots accuse me of being, which I am not. I don't remember declaring that designation on my voter registration form. The US Constitution and the Civil Rights Act guarantees equal rights for all despite of race, nationality, religion, or sexual orientation. On top of that the US Constitution guarantees free speech. As a citizen I believe it's my duty to abide by that despite what local law enforcement, political extremists and lawmakers think. Could care less. Now with my political stand being made clear finally after all the heated debates I've been caught in the middle in, we are not living in a politically correct system as many would love to claim to. Many leftists use the term political correctness to impose their views on others. I do not appreciate that. Seems many ultra PC leftist extremists just as much as the baby boomer era hardline consevative right wingers do not understand that, nor care. Now for things such as racial, religious, or gender discrimination where it comes to employment, acceptance into schools or with law enforcement (as an example) or the carrying out of hate crimes, that is a direct violation of the statures of the civil rights act and local civil and criminal law, different situation. It's always better to be openminded, and well I refuse to be jaded like the masses, that's how I roll. As long as my personal core beliefs and my rights as a US citizen are not violated as protected (supposedly) by the constitution, were cool. I also have the right to free speech as protected by the US constitution, but of course that is not an absolute, as it apparently only applies if I follow the masses of so called popular public opinion, which I will not. Think that's what I meant. Call this statement a pre-emptive strike to what I already see: A heated debate. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted August 23, 2013 Share #7 Posted August 23, 2013 As a heterosexual male, I strictly date females. For other people, I could say I don't give a damn what gender they date or whether they've changed their gender or not. There's a long-term economic reason for my position too: it helps lower the population growth, reducing the competition for scarce resources. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted August 23, 2013 Share #8 Posted August 23, 2013 What I do know (speaking as an Asian American male) is that there is a sizable community of transsexuals in Thailand: They are now being accepted as a distinct LGBT group in Thai society. Now for perverted foreigners who like to frequent Bangkok to go for their sex tours that's something I actually take offense to. Because the illegal sex trade is also sadly apparent in such areas. That is a violation of human rights in the sense that this is a form of modern slavery. Many transgenders --- let alone Asian females who are local to the area --- are falling victim to it : forced prostitution, the pornography industry and such. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kamen Rider Posted August 24, 2013 Share #9 Posted August 24, 2013 I had sort of a tangent thought going through my mind just now; why is Trans still mixed in with G, L and B? (For the record, I refuse to just lob off the T without rearranging the other three letters, due to LGB Trains being very important to me) Seems like the one part of the issue stuck in the pervious era of psycological understanding. For one thing, sexuality is basicly an interpersonal concept, is it not? Where as gender identity is personal, something you need to come to grips with on your own. The two are not mutually exclusive, so why do people still lump them all together? It's like lumping a religious minority in with ethnic ones on the basis they're minorities. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted August 24, 2013 Share #10 Posted August 24, 2013 I had sort of a tangent thought going through my mind just now; why is Trans still mixed in with G, L and B? (For the record, I refuse to just lob off the T without rearranging the other three letters, due to LGB Trains being very important to me) Seems like the one part of the issue stuck in the pervious era of psycological understanding. For one thing, sexuality is basicly an interpersonal concept, is it not? Where as gender identity is personal, something you need to come to grips with on your own. The two are not mutually exclusive, so why do people still lump them all together? It's like lumping a religious minority in with ethnic ones on the basis they're minorities. My best guess is because they have been, and still are part of the same struggle that the "G, L and B's" face.... Form Voltron... Strength in numbers concept.... Grow Stronger... I don't know..... I'll start then as a heterosexual male. I have way much more qualms about people who are assholish in general rather than a actual person's sexual orientation. Doesn't phase me personally because I know who I want as a female love interest and have no shame in it whatsoever with no hangups. I will mention (don't ask, her request not mine) that there was another transgender poster here who was a very respected member but she had to move on. Last time we chatted was in March or something like that. News to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
realizm Posted August 24, 2013 Share #11 Posted August 24, 2013 My best guess is because they have been, and still are part of the same struggle that the "G, L and B's" face.... Form Voltron... Strength in numbers concept.... Grow Stronger... I don't know..... News to me. She fears stigmatism so I cant say it publicly. See PM. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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