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8 hours ago, davemackey said:

"That person" was stating what buses were still to be replaced, but that is going to be years down the road. The next big project is going to be replacing the transit buses

I looked back on the post, my bad Dave. Sleep deprivation can be a problem lol.

7 hours ago, JLiu15 said:

I've heard 9603 will be going to Lakewood as well.

However, I figured 9529 was already scrapped since I saw a photo where it got black paint (or is it gonna be rehabbed or something?)

Good question

13 hours ago, 553 Bridgeton said:

4008-4044 have to remain active for 12yrs as they were purchased with a federal grant. No new CTs will push them out, they will be around for at least 20yrs. 

That's what I was thinking... idk why that person mentioned the 4000s...

9529 (ex Hilton) will be donated to Lakewood

20 hours ago, davemackey said:

Here's what has tracked so far: 21001-21004, 21006, 21010-21011, 21030, 21032 (tracking incorrectly as 20132), 21040-21041, 21047, 21049-21052 and 21057.  Nothing has been delivered yet. 21001 made it up to Winnipeg.

NJT still maintains that this order is for 1104 coaches, and it appears that the last 33 buses will be delivered in the 2022 model year, by 2Q of that calendar year. NJT will still have hundreds of older cruisers - the 7100's, the 9000's, the 4000's and the 72-7300's. It's too early to tell if ridership will warrant the replacement of those buses.

The 4000s? The somewhat new hybrids are to be replaced already?!

12 hours ago, DaTransitMan4608 said:

Funny thing is they arrived not even 8-9 hours after I posted this. 

20822 has returned to Hilton. I'm guessing what happened was they had an issue with 20810 and borrowed 20822 for a short time. It's back at Hilton now. 

Will 20810 ever return to Hilton?

1 hour ago, DaTransitMan4608 said:

It is, but that doesn't mean they should do it. If a line terminates near or at a garage, it doesn't necessarily mean it should belong to said garage. Especially in Orange's case given that the 88 has historically been a motorcoach line and they have no space to store any MCIs there.  

Also, keep in mind that whether this line or any other DeCamp line ends up being taken over hinges on NJT getting the federal funding they have been asking for to keep them operating the way they are now. 

 

Never implied that Hilton should do the route(s) whatsoever. Just pointing out the obvious answer lol. 

I hope that DeCamp can pull through, hate to see another small business go away because of this pandemic. And if it does, can NJT handle all of this? That's up for debate...

1 hour ago, DCTransitFilms said:

Where does NJ Transit store all its retired buses and where are the lots located (minus the one off Tonelle Avenue)?

They used to store them in a lot next to Meadowlands garage before being moved to the current location.

3 hours ago, DaTransitMan4608 said:

I can see that too. Question is, if that happens which garage is gonna take it? The 88 is unique in that it begins/terminates in Orange/East Orange, which I guess could put it in Hilton territory.

That's Orange territory, not Hilton

10 hours ago, checkmatechamp13 said:

So here is an idea for some Newark-area restructuring:

#74 rerouted south of Passaic Bus Terminal to operate via Passaic Avenue-Van Houten Avenue-Route 21, and then follows the #76X route through Downtown Newark to reach Newark Broad Street & Newark Penn Station.

#92 rerouted north of Bloomfield Center to take over the #72 route to Paterson (this serves two purposes: It allows riders from the Paterson-Bloomfield portion of the #72 to access the Morris & Essex Line, with all of the alternative crosstown routes that get you into Downtown Newark, there's no reason why someone would backtrack on the #92 from South Orange or Orange over to Forest Hill to catch the light rail).

#96 extended up North 6th Street, Franklin Avenue, Belleville Avenue, and Broad Street to Bloomfield Center (covers the Belleville Avenue portion of the #92 and also provides access to Clara Maas Medical Center from the South and Central Wards).

#90 extended to Passaic via the present-day #74 route.

Still trying to figure out if there's a way to salvage the #74U. Maybe restructure it with the #13C (from Delawanna Avenue, make a left onto Main Avenue, a right onto Allwood Road, and then follow the #13 route to the end). 

Here's my take: Not every route needs to serve Penn Station. The 74 gets its crowd by NOT going to Penn, rather helping out the, at times, overcrowded 72, with its terminus at Branch Brook Park.

The 90 is a mess on it's own.

The 96 is a  ghost route, to me that is. I would have to ride those routes again to have a general idea.

On 10/7/2020 at 10:08 AM, DCTransitFilms said:

If only the 31 can directly serve Society Hill and goes to Exchange Place the route would've got more riders at best

It used to to go Exchange Place, before they scrapped that segment of the route

17 hours ago, DCTransitFilms said:

Would that be the last Neoplan out of Hilton then?

You would be correct, so far

15 hours ago, DaTransitMan4608 said:

9530 & 9531 to Fairview.

20827-20835, 20836, & 20838 to Big Tree

9536 may have been transferred or scrapped, as it hasn't been on the 39 as of late. Which if this is true, indicates there are no more Neoplans at Hilton. 

9536 is tracking in Hilton, as of this moment.

20826 on the 378... ok then Big Tree 

15 hours ago, DCTransitFilms said:

Still with Olympia Trails? 

Yes sir. Also add to the scrap list, 9630 and 9635. Pics of them in back of Fairview garage with the black paint of death on Facebook

13 hours ago, busdude2 said:

Sadly the bus driver was at fault in most of them .

6545 is back in service. Someone took a picture of it today on the 31 on Facebook

11 hours ago, JLiu15 said:

Does anyone know if the 116 and 126 are also served by Howell now? Saw a bunch of MCI CNGs tracking on those routes this morning.

Howell helps out on those routes, nothing more

20862 is now tracking in St. Cloud

20858 at St. Cloud, along with 20851

8 hours ago, NBTA said:

What's a fun NJT route that you'd guys would recommend? 

In what context; fanning, driving?

18 hours ago, dkm07302 said:

I might have agreed to that a few years ago, but thinking now, I don't think it'll be useful. I mean, you have the #86, #1, and #6 that serves Lafayette Loop. I would maybe increase the #6 to liberty state park since that would be the best route to benefit that area. 

To me, I would like to see the Red & Tan #11 and the Lafayette & Greenville IBOA #16 return. From Journal Square, there is no direct service to Newport Mall (unless you get the path) and no direct service to Liberty State Park. The #16 was always crowded because most of the people came from Monticello Avenue and McGinley Square. I remember a driver who use to work for the company and he said the route was great, but the company was doing poorly. As for the #11, I just can't believe that no bus route has served the park in years. It would have been a gold mine now (with this illness).

If you take away what NJT did to the 1 and 86, in terms of serving segments where the 4 did, I'm sure it would work. After all, the 4 goes to downtown JC while the 6 goes to Journal Square.

In terms of LSP, its asinine that the park has no direct bus service since the 11, 231, and 305 (to a very small extent) gotten the ax. I agree that the 6 should serve it more and help entice passengers to use the HBLR.

20824 is at CMF, and 20851 tracking at St. Cloud

Since I was thinking on how Jersey City's bus network has been ravaged by cuts especially the Lafayette/Greenville neighborhoods, what would you propose to bring back certain route(s) back?

I was thinking about bringing back the 4 and assigning it to Greenville. The route would stay the same, serving Newport Mall from Merritt St and Ocean Ave, but added to it would be to take a page out of the 6 and serve Lafayette Loop (for people wanting to take the HBLR) on hourly trips on weekdays, and weekends would go like: Newport Mall via Ocean Ave & Lafayette Loop, and Merritt St. via Lafayette Loop & Ocean Ave full time.

Thoughts?

5618 on the 113S... well then, Ironbound

It's a damn shame that they are suspending all services again