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  1. I doubt they are saving any money with this move. In fact they are spending more money with this move In my opinion this was a very customer friendly move. n15 was redundant between HTC and RF both on Clinton and along Washington/OCR with the n35/16/40/41. The schedules between n15 and n35 are not coordinated at all, so sometimes you will have a n15 leave HTC/RF 0-5 minutes before and after a n35 just left traveling along the same route. With those HTC-RF Shuttle, NICE is able to better balance out the schedule providing an more "consistent" headway (which under NICE is still not clockface) along Clinton Rd In addition on weekend when the n15 runs every 20-30 minutes, the n35 will be boosted to every 30 minutes, essentially doubling the frequency on Sunday for the whole route, while keeping the same frequency on the n15 south of HTC. Its a win-win scenario. Granted these routes were operated more frequently under MTA LIB and this is a merely a restoration of service formerly provided (except n35 on Sunday) I don't know about this. n16 ridership south of HTC is pretty poor compared to the n15, or even n35. I don't think there would be enough demand to restore service at this time on weekend n16 trips
  2. n16 doesn't run on the weekend at all. That is why NICE raised the frequency on the n35 from every hour to every 30 minutes during the weekends. People took the n15 because it was frequent. The ridership between Long Beach and even along Woodfield Rd all the way to RF is not as high to warrant a direct service, especially a duplicative one (both on Washington or Clinton Rd). Plus, passengers can still transfer to the n35/16 with a less than 15 minutes wait at HTC, What used to be bunched up n15/35 is now a consistent wait for the n35. Trust me NO one wants to change buses at Hempstead, but the hub is there, and thats that Skipping RVC LIRR is ridiculous. It does show the continuance in decline of train-bus connections. Perhaps NICE realized that no one really connect to the n15 from RVC but more connect from the n4 on Merrick?
  3. n1- I think NICE correctly realized that people from Elmont Rd/Hewlett don't really take NICE bus into Green Acre Mall. At least it doesn't warrant service every 15 minutes. I still think that service should be more than once every 70 or so minutes. This change would also make all Jamaica buses skip Valley Stream LIRR, another sign that RR to bus ridership is completely gone n15- I think @B35 via Church scenario finally came true in this instance. There will no longer be any n15 north of Hempstead, reducing waste and redundancy between Hempstead and RFM and along OCR. Apparently they choose to keep service along County Seat Rd during rush hours only to Mineola. It seems like they increased the amount of n16 during the week to every 30 minutes, as well as an increase in n35 on the weekends. Overall, I think its an overall improvement, since riders south of Hempstead on the n35 and n16 just received an increase in service Furthermore service will now stop at Merrick Rd instead of LIRR RVC Station. n16 LOCAL will skip those stops, but maybe the n16X and n16NCC will serve those stops when they resume n20H/n21- This is a service improvement. They finally combined both routes into the same timetable. Saturday service is now roughly every 20 minutes combined between Clock Tower and Great Neck. If I am not wrong, there are some cuts on the n20G which will roughly run every 15 minutes during the peak and every 30 minutes during off peak. Essentially it matches the frequency east of Great Neck. Slightly better east of Great Neck, still pretty bad compared to the service LIB provided n23- I don't see any additional trips n25/n58- It seems like these two routes are now interlined. At least they are now timed at Great Neck. In both directions too. n16/27- It seems like service is timed at RF in both directions. I'm glad NICE is utilizing timed transfers. They seems to be the only agency on LI to do so. It could also mean that service level declined so much that it is now feasible to time transfers This network will increase the focus of Hempstead transit Center Finally, they still haven't add more n6 trips at night during the weekday which is absolutely ridiculous
  4. According to their twitter, what thee mean is a grand total of 2 trains. One AM from KO at 4:50AM making no stops until Farmingdale, and one in the PM hours at 4:39PM I believe Metro North had it better with still decent rush hour peak/reverse peak service, while the LIRR went full on into a weekend schedule.
  5. All fares are currently off peak until further notice. I have no idea why they still designate which trains are peak trains
  6. I believe the QM3 lost service before MTA bus took over. It was cut during QS bus days. I still have a timetable somewhere, I have to go look for it The bus used to also serve more of Jackson Heights/East Elmhurst areas along Northern Blvd in one direction only. Slowly the stops have been cut back in that areas however
  7. Speaking about the n6, who thought it would be a good idea to have service run every 25 minutes after 7PM on weekdays. Those trip ended up packed because of it. I think its ridiculous during the COVID-19 pandemic to have buses with 10 people standing with all the seats filled The thing is, ON SUNDAYS the buses are more frequent during this time!
  8. Yeah that was what I was thinking too. The gaps the during the peak hours on the Main Line has been filled. However, I still think there should be better train service along main corridors such as Babylon and Ronkonkoma. I just have no idea why they are bothering running semi expresses when the trains are so infrequent. Overall, its not too bad for electric territory. The diesel territory on the other hand just got completely shortchanged. They should aleast maintain hourly service along these branches, especially the OB branch since the train has a crazy amount of layover at Jamaica anyways
  9. http://web.mta.info/lirr/Timetable/ New LIRR timetable effective March 2021. Pretty significant service reductions for train service especially for local stations. At this point LIRR should just run all the trains as locals
  10. Currently if you walk up to the agent and pay the full fare and show identification to show you qualify for reduced fare, you will receive a two trip reduced fare metrocard. Current station agents are not allowed to accept cash as per COVID-19 so technically I believe it already ended. @SeanH525 mentioned something to the tune of if you can only pay with cash, agents are instructed to let you in for free.
  11. Ideally, attrition should be used to reduce the effect on the employee, but that is something the union and the MTA will have to negotiate. The TWU and the unions on the commuter railroads are known to not make any concessions. They are good at preserving jobs, but does not do any favors for the finances for the company. MTA management is not innocent here too, they are wasteful and have too many politically connected in there, but MTA as an organization simply is not sustainable. Operating cost needs to come down.
  12. 62 is one zone from Newark-Penn Station so the 62 will be $1.60 JFK is $7.75 on the airtrain plus the MTA $2.75, unless you take the Q3, B15 or Q10
  13. I'm sure there are good ones out there, but I have yet to experience one. Too often, in multiple boroughs, the only thing I would receive from the booths is a bad altitude. I'm sure you serve your customers with pride, but there are too may bad apples out there. NYCT does not cover its cost. Even if they cover all the swipes, they will still have a shortfall. The fact of the matter is that the operating cost for the MTA is too high even compared to the deplorable United States low standards, let alone European or Asian countries. MTA can not rely on federal aid forever. MTA was heading for financial disaster way before COVID-19. There is no doubt they will head that way again.
  14. S54 leaves Macys at Commack at 8:25PM as well. This transfer always screw me over, because usually the S58 would be slightly late and the S54 would be gone or turning out of the plaza and too late for the driver to do anything.
  15. S54- That may be true in the year past, but transfers from n79 from WWM or even ridership on the n79 is no where it was in 2017. Tbh I think the busiest portion of the S54 is the portion that could be replaced by the S58. They will have to add a bus on the S58 . Because a bus every 2 hr and a half or every 3 hour is nowhere near acceptable for a route like S58. Tbh, it SCT was NICE bus, the route would've been split at Smith Haven Mall or the college lol S62- My experience riding that route is that MOST of the passenger is off by Port Jefferson or slightly north of Port Jefferson. The areas such as Wading River doesn't really command much ridership or deboardings. My guess is that SCT sacrificed the S62 to preserve the busier S58. I don't think rerouting the 3D off its current route and rerouting them on the S62 along Nesconset Highway is a good idea. I believe the local ridership along Nichols Rd is much greater than along Nesconset Hwy. Riders can continue to ride the 3D to Brentwood Rail or Central Islip and take the hodgepodge of routes there to Hauppauge. 10C- That loop at Ditch Plains should be streamlined. Right now some trip serves it two times, evidently to give that area more service at the expense for overall East Hampton service. I remember the first time I rode it, I got on Montauk before the loop. It did the loop and went BACK to where I came from, I was like wtf? This route at its headways carries a decent amount of people from Montauk out to East Hampton.
  16. Its NYC There is constructions during the weekends and off peak hours on almost every line forever. That is the only answer I could give lol
  17. It is my opinion that most commuters simply are ignorant to the fact or don't care until the routes changes are right around the corner, or on the first day of route change
  18. You are right about the n71 being supplemental. Most of the ridership along that route gets off/on along Hempstead Tpk. Similarly, the ridership on the n54/55 is very poor to Sunrise Mall as well. Most of the ridership on the 54/55 gets off way before Washington Ave (where the 54 turns). I wonder if that ridership was always this poor in the eastern portion of the n54/55, or if it is a casualty of NICE bus crappy scheduling along the individual portions of the n54/55 Tbh you may be right about the service on Hempstead Tpk in the future. Meaning that all routes terminate at Rt 110. It would be a shame though. NICE has very poor connections to Suffolk County transit these days, and cutting them at Rt 110 would make them worse. I personally use the 2B to fan out further east, but it does seems like that most SCT transfers in that area is to/from the S1.
  19. Amtrak actually has preferential rates for access to the freight RR's track. That is one of the reasons freight RR's don't want to delay their trains for an Amtrak train (although by law they are suppose to). To know how this arrangement came to be, it was 1971, the RR's were bankrupt and falling, in exchange for dumping money losing passenger trains on the government, the RR's agreed to give Amtrak priority to their track at pre negotiated, below market rate as well as equipment or payment to the company to get it started. This only covered Intercity passenger trains, Commuter rail remained under private railroad, which at that point were either shutting down or subsidized by the government (NJT,MNR) But to keep the story short, no Congressman want to lose passenger train service once they have it. The Cardinal train runs from Chicago to NYC via WV and Washington DC. The old WV senator threaten to "zero" out funding if Amtrak eliminates "his" train. Therefore Amtrak as an organization has to be national or nothing. I would argue that the NEC was one of the best investment Amtrak made. It charges high prices because it can. In other places the quality of the train is not worth the premium price, so a lower price is charged. NEC does subsidize the national long distance routes. It was too bad. In the 1980s Conrail was abandoning routes and main lines left and right. Amtrak could've picked up some of it to build high"er" speed rail. Too bad AMtrak had no money back then... or now. Its too late now to buy trackage because some of the main line are long gone and rebuilding them will cost astronomical.
  20. NICE bus have extremely tight schedules normally, but my experience these days are that NICE runs really early. NICE probably has some of the most aggressive lead foot drivers in the tri state area. I was on the n70 from Farmingdale, and the bus was on time at Rt 110. By the time the bus got to Front St it was 7 minutes early. We ended up arriving Hempstead 15 minutes early which was crazy. Good for me because I can catch an earlier n6, but I wonder if anybody was left behind due to the earliness of the bus
  21. Yes those are used by Amtrak since 1991 when they rerouted trains from Upstate NY from Grand Central to NYP. I believe the primary reason NYC doesn't have freight is the loss of industry in the 60s 70s and 80s as well as heavy passenger traffic. There simply isn't any slots for these freight trains. For example its hard to schedule an NYAR freight on the LIRR due to the density of the trains. .Some railroads back then used five person crews due to the insistence of the unions. That alone caused the Railroads great financial distress. Add on to the fact that railroads were heavily regulated and were not allowed to abandon routes, raise tariffs, and merge cause them to not have the flexibility to turn a profit. Eventually the railroads did get nationalized with Conrail and Amtrak, which rationalized the network to something that could be profitable. I mean back in the 60s you have DL&W ,Erie, NYC, Leigh Valley all competing on the New York- Buffalo route. Just imagine the amount of parallels track there is throughout the country. What you are getting at about Amtrak isn't really its fault. Without proper infrastructure, there couldn't be HSR. What UK did is the same as what Nassau did with the MTA, privatize it with public ownership. The theory is that it would save money, but without huge investments from the government to ensure the infrastructure is good, the trains can't run good. Its like if Nassau county buys NICE 30 year old buses, and it breaks down, you can't really blame it on NICE
  22. Tbh was more of just combining two trains together and saving money, at least that was the primary initial goal. I don't believe realized the value of the routing until later. I mean theoretically the runs every 6-8 minutes during rush hours. Service runs every 12 minutes on weekends. If we implement the plan of rerouting the to 71st and the to Astoria, Brooklyn should have much more reliable service. The problem with the I don't believe is frequency but reliability. The only reason to send the down there is to "help out" the and provide supplementary service along 4th Avenue Local. If that is the case, 9th Avenue is more than enough for the terminal, but then that doesn't solve the issue of riders south of 36th St. I mean, it does provide 4th Av local riders with more service to Atlantic Avenue so I guess it is a benefit, but I think a more reliable 4th Ave Local is sufficient for the riders currently using it. I don't believe you can relay trains at 59th Street. there are crossovers from local-express and vice versa but there is nothing to the other side. Which means that the train will have to single track all the way to 36 St to get to the other side. Or I wonder if they could relay the trains on the express tracks along Sea Beach. But at that point might as well just send it to 9th Av and call it a day
  23. Throughout its history the old did actually alternate terminating between 9th Ave and Bay Parkway. I guess they eventually stuck with Bay Parkway to make the line slightly useful to West End riders In my opinion, the ship sailed a long time ago. Way before the 1980s. When Midtown surpass Downtown in the number of jobs. Stations along Broad Street Line fell into decline. To understand how busy the old Nassau St line was, just look at the configuration of Canal, Bowery (both sides) and Chamber St. It was designed for much more trains than today. Before anyone brings this up. Bring back the NASSAU ST LOOP is bad idea! The don't even need to deadhead the crews. All they have to do (assuming they share the fleet at Astoria-Ditmars) is at the end of the shift make the operator do a trip on the to Coney Island. Same in the morning, they could sign as an and switch to the at Ditmars for the rest of the day. This way the deadhead will carry passengers. Its very similar to the few 's leaving CI yard. That would leave Astoria Line riders with a huge service cut, which prior to COVID needed every train it got. It is why between 2010-2017 had both the AND go there. I don't think the ridership along SAS have surpass the ridership on the and right now thru the 60th St Tube I can not agree with extending any Nassau Street Line into Brooklyn. The issue with the old was that people simply didn't travel to the stations along Nassau Street. By extending the to Brooklyn, it will run into the same problem as the old ,in that the train will pretty much be empty by Atlantic Avenue. The current despite its flaws does serve the stations people want to travel to (slowly and when it shows up)
  24. fleet will be "swapped" with the at Astoria- Ditmars so they will eventually get to a yard. So each operator will presumably do a run on the then switch to a and do the return to Ditmars and switch back to the I think the only ran the old to Bay Parkway because they had no where else to terminate them. As for service wise, it was pretty useless in Brooklyn. I mean it did provide some additional 4th Avenue local service to help out the , that's about it. Back then people will wait for the even if an came first because is an express and goes directly into Midtown. Either that or they just get off at 36th St and get the . Basically close to no one except a few people who work downtown would take the into Manhattan. That route was the classic definition of a supplementary route
  25. I mean aleast some of them were done... Too bad they only renovated Bedford Ave on the CBTC is in place on QBL There is two trips in each directions Other than that... Its the same old NYC Subway What I didn't expect in 2020/2021 - No more ITS SHOWTIME! That is something I never thought would ever happen... not having them on the between Roosevelt and Queens Plaza
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