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1 minute ago, Future ENY OP said:

Grand Avenue (Brooklyn Division) 

Thank you

As for the 100 series. Renumbered from the 5500 series, if 84 of these can fit. How many artics are gonna be saved until they can be scrapped later on?

I saw that 9501-3 have been delivered. Nice. Looks similar to SEPTA's with the exception of the inside. To what depot will it start out at???

I would turn back the time and use: 

 R21/22 only (7156-7485)

 R22 (7676-7749) R26/28 R29 (8688-8805)

 R12/14/15

 R17/36ML

 R33ML

 R22 (7486-7675) R29 (8570-8687)

R21 (7050-7155)

 R33/36wF 

Current will only change the 1/4 

14 hours ago, East New York said:

No, I totally agree with you 200% and you are definitely correct. I'm just saying this is what the MTA supposedly said in the final the evaluations which led them to the decisions of now. This isn't my point of view or opinion. We definitely see how the contract was written for the CNG's, (which was a tad bit shady) and you know my personal position on everything that's been going on. 

Now you know for a fact I know exactly how much tech experience Nova has. The RTS speaks for itself and the LFS is the most solid platform out which is built with the same philosophy. This is just what the final reports supposedly said, so I posted. 

However, my position is the same as yours and it runs a LOT deeper than this! Lol.

Nova quotes the prices of it's buses based on the specs. NFI bases their prices on winning orders. 

In case anyone didn't know, MTA has historically ordered 2 pilot buses. NFI created the 4-5 pilot program to one-up Nova and say hey "we can deliver on any schedule you want unlike the other guys."

But In agreeance with you, Quantity over Quality seems to be the precedent right now, and it definitely reflects in the maintenance records and "caugh" Altoona records.

The MTA of today that you and I know are worried about the price on paper. This is the same MTA that at one time said they would never order another bus from New Flyer after the D60's and also said they would never order another Nova after the RTS hybrids. NFI can afford to low-ball and Nova just won't do it. But that's just good business. 🤷🏾‍♂️

 

 

 

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Promises are meant to be kept, not broken, for those who control the BLUE/YELLOW brand. At that time they relied upon Orion to do the dirty work, however, since they went OUT of business, the MTA has to suck it up to NF/Nova orders or maybe pick another company, EXCEPT Gillig. Imagine if they haven't messed up that potential Millenium RTS order 

Let's just say that both the Nycta & BC merge. And they start reorganization of the bus routes, eliminating the borough prefixes, and just do the number series:

1-299 to Manhattan

300-399 Bronx

400-499 Brooklyn

500-549 Staten Island

550-699 Queens

700-749 Special 

750-899 Express

900-979 subway/commuter shuttles 

3 hours ago, GojiMet86 said:

https://cptdb.ca/topic/6816-mta-nyct-subwaybus-discussion/?page=33&tab=comments#comment-799847

 

 

Let them start rolling in

THAT GUY AT NINE HUNDRED EAST ONE HUNDRED THIRTY SECOND STREET, BRONX, NEW YORK ONE O FOUR FIVE FOUR, aka WALNUT! I worked at the depot from 1989 to 1990. I was on the 2nd floor at the Surface Training Center, the supervisor had me on the computers next to the 6V71 & 6V92 engines that was on display for training. Everytime I saw rooks in classes, they learned the techniques of troubleshooting. Some of these graduates went over to KB & GH, while others went back to Brooklyn. But it was also depending on "where you live" at. Some of the drivers had hazmat training classes that I would input them for their assigned depot. 5 of those stood in Walnut, while the rest went to Amsterdam, Hudson Pier and 146th Street Depots. One of the drivers who drops me everyday at my stop, gave me a Walnut Depot cap, which i kept until 2001.

Walnut Depot will always be loved and never forgotten

On 9/25/2017 at 10:50 AM, Lawrence St said:

Can we get an SBS on the Bx9? Thing is to dam delayed during rush hour along Broadway and most of it's route.

No. Not on this route you won't

4 hours ago, BrooklynBus said:

 

All the video shows is how unhappy everyone is with current service. The bus lanes on the narrow portion of Kings Hway will help as may the rerouting onto Avenue K and around Glenwood Road but you don't need SBS to make those changes. As far as long waits for the bus, articulated buses will mean fewer buses and longer waits especially for the local. The route needs to be split. Should never have been combined in the first place which made the problems we have today much worse. Route doesn't need SBS. But the MTA will do what they want to do anyway. And again they only tell half the story. Audio states average bus speed is under 5 mph. But as map shows that is only true for three small sections. Other data shows speeds on wide portion of Kngs Highway where bus lanes are proposed are already over 20 mph in a 25 mph zone for 21 out of 24 hours a day. So 24/7 bus lanes will not help bus passengers but will greatly delay cars. Another waste of money by the MTA. 

For that, the B82 local should've become the B5, while the B82 SBS becomes the B50 SBS. But you see that these are some angry passengers. I know some of you who love UP might have a say on this, but this isn't Burger King. You can't have it your way

23 hours ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

The other one that is becoming annoying is the "Caution Bus Is Turning". I was on 50th and 7th this morning and one of those new M50 electric buses came by and I heard that playing over and over.  The more they play these announcements, the more deaf-tone people become.

You think you are annoyed by those "Caution: Bus is Turning" announcements? Come to Philly where 70% of NFs and a few Novabuses have them  Bus numbers 4600, 8425-8427, 8460-8463 & 8540-8542 have "Caution, Pedestrians, Bus is turning" while all others and the new orders don't have "Pedestrians" announcement.                                                                                              

6 hours ago, BreeddekalbL said:

Anyone ever see this happen in nyc? GappenedHappened in toronto 

 

 

You would have to go waaaaay to 1995. I was in my second week for my last ever Messenger job in Manhattan when one lunatic looking guy was walking on 50th St from 10th all the way to 6th. I was on 4547 on the M50 (at that time, it was running out of 126th St Depot) right in front of the bus until a cop came. He ran for a block until he got to fifth avenue before he was nabbed. He kept flipping the bird to the driver a few after he blew his horn. 

With the new OTR express buses in the process of ordering, What color design would these buses be? Hopefully it will be green with a slice of blue/yellow

I've never seen a Gillig with just one door in the middle except for the double decker buses they have in Philly. 

So by the mid 2019 summer quarter as we see it (if the XE60s comes in) The New Flyer Sweep Xs is about to make NYCTA almost looking better than those in DC except their older 2008-2009 NF & NABI buses look like the old R40 Slant classic fronts.  No 8800s, 8900s & 9000s yet.   

On 8/3/2011 at 10:03 PM, East New York said:

 Bus Operations is the surface transit division of the Metropolitan Transportation Authority (New York), created in 2008 to consolidate all bus operations operated by the MTA. The  fleet consists of more than 5,900 buses of various types and models for fixed-route service, providing service in New York City, the western edge of Nassau County and the city of Yonkers. Bus Operations is not currently publicly used as a brand.

The NYC Transit Forums Fleet & Depots home page is updated on a regular basis, and serves and the main information page for Department of Buses operations.  

Bus Operations is currently in the process of merging it's branding, operations, radio and farebox systems. The combined branding has been introduced, and will continue will all new buses which will share a common unified MTA New York City Transit & Bus brand and that no longer sports NYC Bus or MTA Bus titles.

The current public brands are  New York City Bus,  Bus, and merged ops branding is simply  .

MTA Bus Company headquarters and command will also be merged with that NYC Bus and moved to the all new state-of-the-art Bus Command Center at East New York Surface Transit Headquarters. (See more details at the bottom of this title post)

Official (MTA) website

 

The TTMG Insiders Guide (Fleet and Depot Roster) is a comprehensive depot-by-depot fleet roster is the maintained by MTA employees, and is 100% accurate at the time of posting update (save any typos or human error). Public updates are released on a regular basis. Please remember that buses are transferred, loaned, and borrowed on an as needed basis. Reference the MTA Bus Moves & Transfers Thread for daily updates, and interim fleet information.

Official MTA Fleet roster at TTMG

 

Last Fleet & Depot Update 2/11/18

 

** Note title page is currently under ongoing re-construction to provide users with with more informative information in as little space as possible, while creating a fresh new look and feel that is much more attractive give that what we have here now. 

 

Local & Express Bus Fleets

Current & Future Procurement 2017-2019, for bus deliveries through 2010

Section 1.)  Awards, Pending ordes, and delivery progress.

 

10 Standard Electric Buses NYCT leased through December 2020 for test and evaluation purposes. (Currently testing)

-5 New Flyer XE40 Standard Electric Bises

-5 Proterra BE40 Standard Electric Buses

 

139 New Flyer XD60 Articulated Buses NYCT/MTAB (Awarded - Delivery in progress)

 

138 New Flyer XN40 Standard CNG Buses NYCT (Delivery Compete)

 

92 NovaBus LFSA Articulated Buses NYCT (Delivery in progress)

 

110 New Flyer XN60 CNG Articulated Buses NYCT (Awarded - Pilot Testing underway)

 

643 Standard 40 foot Bus options (618 for NYCT, 25 new for MTAB ) buses NYCT/MTAB (Excercised split award - New Flyer pilot testing in progress, and Nova pilot delivery scheduled for summer 2018) 251 LFS options, 377 XD40 options for TA, and 25 XD40 options for MTABC.

 

10 New Flyer XDE40 Standard Hybrid-Electric Buses NYCT (Pilot Awarded - 5 Allison units, 5 BAE units)Awarded. Test and Evaluation buses scheduled to arrive February and March 2018.

 

161 New Flyer XD60 Articulated Bus options for NYCT/MTAB (TA options awarded, BC options in negotiation pre-award phase. TA pilot delivery expected spring 2018) 108 options for TA and 53 options for BC.

 

10 New Flyer XDE60 Articluated Buses for NYCT (to be awarded spring 2018)

 

72 NovaBus LFSA Articulated Bus options NYCT (Awarded and scheduled to be delivered directly following the base order with no pilot buses being required)

 

45 Standard 40 foot Zero Emissions Electric Buses for NYCT (to be awarded 2020)

 

275 Standard 40 XDE40 foot Hybrid-Electric Buses for NYCT (to be awarded 2019)

 

307 OTR 45 foot Express Buses (257 for MTAB, 50 for NYCT to be awarded 2018/2019)

 

15 Articulated Zero Emissions Electric buses for Test & Evaluation. To be awarded 2019/2020 (XE60 or BYD60) Note this will be a production order.

 

******************************************************************************************************************************

The following information comes from "East New York" and "The Real" via MTA Bus Operations.

*******************************************************************************************************************************

Section 2.) New confirmed and projected fleet numbers, delivery depot assignments, and additional fleet details. 

 

Standard 40 foot electric bus alternative energy Bus Test & Evaluation pilot. 0015-0020 NYCT.

Lease A.) New Flyer XE40 "Xcelsior CHARGE" Standard Electric Low Floor 

0011-0015 (*5) Mike Quill 

Lease B.) Proterra BE40 "Catalyst" Standard Electric Low Floor  

0016-0020 (*5) Grand Avenue 

 

New Flyer XD60 "Xcelsior" Low Floor Articulated (Delivery in Progress) 

5987-6125 (NYCT)

5987-6029 (43) Casey Stengel

6030-6108 (79) Tuskegee (100th St)

6109-6125 (17) East New York

Projected options for TA(108) and BC(53)

6126-6286 (161) *Unassigned

 

New Flyer XN40 "Xcelsior" Low Floor CNG (Delivery complete)

673-810 (NYCT)

673-741 (69) West Farms

742-810 (69) Jackie Gleason

 

NovaBus TL-62102A Low Floor Articulated (Delivery in progress)

5439-5530 (NYCT)

5439-5515 (77) Mike Quill

5516-5530 (15) Gun Hill

Projected options

5531-5602 (72) *Unassigned 

 

New Flyer XN60 "Xcelsior" Low Floor CNG Articulated (Awarded - Pilot Testing underway)

1000-1109 (NYCT)

1000-1071 (72) West Farms

1072-1109 (38) Jackie Gleason

 

New Flyer XD40 "Xcelsior" Low Floor (Awarded - Delivery to commence Spring 2018 for NYCT and 2019 for MTA Bus.) Note assignments for buses 7755-7850 are temporary and for the  Train Shuttle, and will be eventually reassigned.  

7484-7850 (NYCT)

7484-7544 (61) Jamaica 

7544-7587 (43) Mike Quill

7588-7626 (39) East New York

7627-7646 (20) Fresh Pond

7647-7666 (20) Grand Avenue

7667-7714 (48) Flatbush for B46SBS

7715-7754 (40) Ulmer Park

7755-7762 (8) Jackie Gleason  Train

7763-7850 (88) *Unassigned*  Train

***This is part of the 643 Standard 40 Foot option order (See above for details)***

7851-7875 (projected 25) MTA Bus

 

NovaBus TL-40102A Low Floor (Awarded - Delivery to begin late 2018)

8504-8754 (NYCT)

Depot assignments are not confirmed for the LFS order at this time. The unofficial report calls for Bronx, Staten Island, and Queens Divisions. 

***This is part of the 643 Standard 40 Foot option order

 

New Flyer XDE40 "Xcelsior" Low Floor Diesel-Electric Hybrid (Awarded - 5 Allison units, 5 BAE units) Test and Evaluation buses scheduled to arrive February and March 2018. Note Grand Avenue depot was selected for initial test and evaluation as that depot now serves as Bus Operations Engineering Headquarters.

9500-9509 (10) Grand Avenue

 

Notice: Dates of award, delivery schedule, depot assignments, fleet numbers and all technical details subject to change without notice. All information will be updated accordingly.

 

See The Bus Test & Evaluation Program thread for up to date information on all new bus, configuration, and component testing projects for Department of Buses.

 

Depots (Major Projects Only)

*East New York - Currently in the final construction stage is the brand new state-of-the-art facility for the merged bus operations of NYCTA and MTABC. The new building will be located and constructed at the East New York Bus Depot site, which currently serves as MTA's Surface Transit Operations Headquarters. This facility will feature brand new bus dispatch capabilities which will be merged with MTABC, as all buses across the fleet will have their radios replaced for one common system. This will begin the much awaited official merger of New York City Transit's TA and OA divisions with that of MTA Bus Company. All buses will also have their fare-boxes replaced for units that will be common to both Transit and Bus Co.

In addition to the new command center, ENY depot is currently being modified to house and maintain articulated buses. 

**See current photos of the new command center below. 

 

 

*Jackie Gleason - In an ongoing effort to increase capacity along the heaviest used bus lines, Gleason has begun modification for articulated bus operations. As of now, the B35 line is scheduled to be converted to articulated ops in late 2018.

 

*Jamaica - Construction of the new Jamaica Depot is now in the final phase of planning. These discussions include the finalization of the design, the acquisition site preparation, and the overall logistics of the new depot. The official project completion date is now expected for 2020. The existing depot will be demolished, and a new expanded building will be replaced in the current location along with newly purchased property adjacent to lot in order to facilitate expansion, and articulated bus operations.

Older posts in this thread are subject to removal in order to keep this thread condensed at all times.

Last update was my birthday yesterday. So that means the XDEs will then be 9500-9510 (renumbered from 6906-6915) then your predictioned numbered 9510-9784. Thanks for this. I wanna see QV get different bus style vehicles instead of the same thing. Let CS get the Orion 7NXGs/NFXD40s in check. Hoping they arrive by the summer.

I saw 18K1, 18K14 & 18K45 earlier this morning. Since when 8272 got the orange LEDs?

4 hours ago, Novabus 5000 said:

5111 from the storage list to scrap

good bye 5111

4 hours ago, Novabus 5000 said:

5460 to Quill 

missing now: 5439-5443, 5449, 5455, 5457 & 5459. Anything above 5460 is all brand new

3 hours ago, Novabus 5000 said:

20 delivered to Grand.

so all of the Proterras and the XEs are completed.

14 hours ago, Maserati7200 said:

I think 65 is probably pushing it a bit considering there was no speedo. I could believe 60 considering how fast it is now even with the stop at 59th street and that big downhill. Check this out: 

EDIT: Also, I think saving power should be a very low priority for NYCTA. Of all places to cut costs, power consumption should be towards the very end. The subway is already one of the cleanest, greenest and most energy efficient ways to get around. Increasing performance and speed to make the subway more attractive, if anything, is the greener thing to do.

 

 

Have you ever saw this on speed mode? If so, you just made this R142 NIS train look like the Acela Express

So the NYCTA is finally getting rid of their 2002 MCIs and sending them to CP.

2 minutes ago, JTrainUK said:

Apologies if I’ve missed this somewhere along the line, but I’m just wondering how many R179 sets are in revenue service as of right now? 

2 for now

On 1/13/2018 at 4:40 PM, subwaycommuter1983 said:

It may work.  The A, C needs NTT and  that  is the reason why a lot of these sets have been possibly modified into 5 car sets.  Yes, the C needs longer trains, but it also needs NTT.  It's pretty unfair that the A and C trains always have to stick with the oldest fleet in the system.

I agree. The A & C should be the first ones to get the R211s instead of getting the R179s. This would be a better service for A trains to utilize artics on that line, especially for its Far rock branch. The Lefferts Blvd, the Rock Park & the C gets regular R211s

I saw 6212 yesterday on the 551. Is this the first one that 551 has used a NABI or was there another one before or way before this......................

On 12/23/2017 at 2:59 PM, limitednyc said:

when was the xd40 order upgraded to 404 buses . 

now up to 408