subwaycommuter1983

Thanks for the update. I got lucky today and rode 4130-4139. I wasn't chasing trains. I was simply traveling from Harlem to Midtown and the newest r211 was the first train that came.

Thanks for sharing. Both open gangway trains should be in service within a few weeks. Let's cross our fingers. How many r211's are currently in service on the A?

Option 2 will allow Broadway to get some NTTs, most likely r160's, due to ridership. There is still a strong possibility that option 2 may consist of r211Ts. If that is the case, then it would make much more sense to have all open gangway trains go to the E/F because they are the most crowded lines in the B division.

Broadway will have to wait until the r268's are in service to become 100% NTTs, not because of vandalism, but because Broadway is not getting CBTC in the foreseeable future. Remember the r211's will run on lines that are currently running or will run of CBTC within the next 3-5 years.

It will most likely happen if the D does get the r211's.

I saw that train heading NB at 145 St 90 minutes ago.

Exactly!!

I just find it very pathetic that there are people in social media that are excited and practically celebrating because the r211's are removed from service. I even saw someone on Facebook spreading the false rumor that the r32's are returning to service. I just hope that these knuckleheads realize that the r211's will return to service (it's a matter of when) and that they will become the most reliable subway fleets just like the r179's.

Yes, and it is possible that the NQW may get some r160's back once option 2 is delivered. BTW the NYPD caught the teen that broke the windows on CI r46's. I just hope that the parents are held accountable as well. Where were they when their teen offspring was smashing windows on the trains??

Pitkins best performing r46's will go to CI. The worst performing r46's will be removed from service. We would have to wait for the base order to be in service before official retirement of the r46's begin. Let's not confuse "removed from service" with "retired". A "retired" subway car means that the subway car is ready to go to the scrap yard. Keep in mind that there are still r32's that haven't been scrapped yet.

I agree only time will tell in regards to the real impact of congestion pricing in subway and bus ridership.

I just hope that the MTA doesn't make the dumb mistake of putting both open gangway trains on lines that have low ridership. Otherwise, it would be a waste of money.

The issue is that there are not enough 10 car trains to make both the C and G 100% full length with 10 car trains and we can not continue to count on the r46's, especially with all the vandalism that has been happening, The r46's are in really bad shape and parts for the r46's are becoming scarce. A few r46's have been removed from service. The C can't stay as 8 car trains or mixed length. The G can't stay as 5 car trains. The G getting 8 car trains can be a temporary solution until they are enough 10 car trains to make the G full length with 10 car trains. This is why it is imperative that the MTA moves forward with option 2, which will allow both the C and G to become 100% full length with 10 car trains

I think they are talking about the 10 car r179's. IMO they should go to the C once the C becomes 100% full length. The Rockaway shuttle will get some r211's, regardless if the A does become 100% r211's or not.

I just hope that both open gangway trains go on lines that have huge ridership. If they go to the A, great, but if they go to the E or F, even better. IMO, it would be a huge waste of money if the MTA decides to put both open gangway trains on the C or Rockaway shuttle, since both lines don't have the ridership that the E and F have.

I rode the r211's yesterday, and you guys are right in terms of the announcement. It sounded really muffled and difficult to understand. Other than that, it was a smooth and fast ride.

I agree 100%.

Yes, Pitkin's r46's will either be sent to CI or simply be removed from service.

So there's still 6 r211's in service???

Exactly, this is why the r211's need to go on lines that have high ridership and are getting CBTC.

Let's not forget that we have a federal government, especially in Congress, who have a hard time understanding that driving is NOT for everyone and they refuse to invest in more public transportation. Is there a US city that has better public transportation than the MTA?? As for the r211's, the MTA better purchase option order 2 if they really want to avoid big headaches in the long term.

That's ok. I support Queens link 100%. The MTA has the equipment plus the right of way to allow the M train to be extended to Rockaway Park. The MTA can also probably modify the option 2 order of r211's to include more 8 car trains and perhaps include more 8 car trains in the r268 order.

Those irresponsible parents need to be held accountable as well. Where were those parents when their teens are breaking subway windows or subway surfing?? I get it, people need to work. However, kids and teens need to be under adult supervision until they graduate from high school.

Blame it on the knuckleheads who broke the windows on the r46's. Don't be surprised if these idiots did these acts of vandalism to pressure the MTA to put NTTs on the NQW. Notice that AFAIK they only vandalized CI r46's. I just hope that these vandals get caught and serve time in jail. Also, the MTA needs to exercise caution in regards to retiring the r46's. IMO the r46's should temporarily be stored as emergency fleet before being scrapped.

Thanks for the clarification. I just hope that option order 2 is exercised and I just hope that the MTA doesn't screw things up in regards to the number of r262's and r268's that need to be purchased.