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  1. W4ST

    Department of Subways - Proposals/Ideas

    The thing is, there is a big difference between those examples. From Jackson Heights / Roosevelt Avenue to 34th Street / Herald Square, according to a test I made the takes 17 minutes, the takes 21 minutes, and the takes 24 minutes. That is a 4 to 7 minute difference, which is not always significant enough to warrant a transfer. Having the local go to Manhattan would ease some crowding on the express. On the other hand, from 36th Street in Brooklyn to 34th Street / Herald Square, the takes 24 minutes each, and the takes a whopping 37 minutes. That is a much larger 13 minute difference, which people are much less likely to wait for. Surely enough, most people from Bay Ridge transfer to a or train anyways, so they don't need the to take them all the way there. The in Manhattan has lots of transfers which will allow everyone to get where they are going with minimal transfers if they are not taking the or the .
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    Department of Subways - Proposals/Ideas

    I don't like the Canal Flip, but I am a proponent of the 57th Street flip, and I can describe why. In general, I believe that a 57th Street Flip would be useful only if SAS is extended southward along 2nd Avenue in Phase 3 without a lower level. (I would also suggest a branch to Queens on that line, but I am specifically discussing the interlining that would occur at 72nd Street) These would be the advantages of a 57th Street Flip in that scenario. - Balancing of capacity. The Broadway tracks leading to SAS would only be able to handle 15 tph in this case, so we would want to connect those to the tracks that don't need as high TPH. That would be Broadway Local, as Broadway Local is long and winding. On the other hand, Astoria needs a lot of service, as does the Manhattan Bridge, so those two should be connected. If this flip was not done, the Manhattan Bridge would only be able to run 15 tph on the Broadway tracks without interlining in Midtown, which would be in my opinion unacceptable. - Flexibility. If Broadway Tracks interline with 2nd Avenue Tracks at 72nd Street, they would want some flexibility on the line, as there could be problems associated with the interlining. Broadway Express is not very flexible, as it has no terminals for a long time, while Broadway Local has a terminal at Whitehall Street. Therefore, trains can be distributed better, with Broadway Local south of Whitehall able to take on 7.5 tph, 15 tph, or 22.5 tph when needed. - Destinations. If this flip was made, SAS riders would have a direct route to Downtown, and Astoria riders would have a direct route to Brooklyn. This is not too important, as most people are going to Midtown, but it would help some people.
  3. W4ST

    R179 Discussion Thread

    When we are talking on the scale of billions of dollars, we have to choose what issues to take on first. I agree that there are lots of issues that need to be fixed, but we can't do this randomly. There has to be a specific plan.
  4. One station that really needs an underpass is 137th Street - City College because of the frequent service changes which involve trains skipping from 137th Street to 96th Street. (Maybe 145 Street as well) Whenever the MTA does this service change, they tell people to go up to 168th Street and then transfer to a downtown train (or vice versa) which is very slow and which nobody does, and they don’t add shuttle buses either.
  5. IMO they should dig out stairs to the escalator-only stations. The escalators are really slow, and stations like 168th Street aren't even that deep. The only problem with this would be that it could justify them closing all elevators at times, but that could be prevented. It would cost money to excavate these stairs but it would cause some people who avoid the stations due to the elevators to use them. It also seems like a safety hazard to only have elevators.
  6. W4ST

    Department of Subways - Proposals/Ideas

    This is a good point. However, the reason I added my 57th Street Flip is also for capacity balance. The Broadway Line connection to SAS is limited to 15 tph unless we terminate trains at 72nd street (which wouldn’t be very far) which would mean that the Broadway line tracks on the Manhattan Bridge would be limited to 15 tph as well (without including some interlining) This is not ideal because that is the fastest way to get from Brooklyn to Manhattan. Also, the Montague Tubes have more flexibility due to Whitehall Street, which helps counteract the imbalance caused by interlining.
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    Department of Subways - Proposals/Ideas

    I understand, but I think that it is important that the Nostrand Avenue and Utica Avenue Lines share more than 30 tph. (at least 40) To do this, Rogers Junction would have to be either rebuilt or what I recommended would occur. I wouldn't be completely against a full rebuild, but I don't think people along those lines would be too happy about that. - For this, I was actually thinking about a 57th Street Flip instead of a Canal Flip. That way, the still go express on Broadway, and go to Astoria as well. This would allow deinterlining to be more efficient, since the two branches that need more capacity would be linked, and the two branches that only need 15 tph of service would be linked. I apologize that it was a little unclear on the map. - As for the , I have been seeing the discussion on this, and I really like that idea. I agree that having a third track would be better than skip-stop. - If there is space to put in the bypass without having it take over the Port Washington Line, I would be fine with its capacity being put to use in other areas. I'm not exactly sure where I would send the in that case, but there are many places to send it to. - I agree that a new tunnel would have to be built. The line would probably have to go under 57th Street to leave Manhattan. I was thinking about it going under 43rd Avenue and connecting into the 11th Street Cut. I like your idea too. Maybe some interlining would be better than complete deinterlining.
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    Department of Subways - Proposals/Ideas

    Recently I have created a future subway map for the New York City Subway. It has numerous extensions to the New York City Subway, and other track changes. I am not very skilled with creating maps online other than Brand New Subway, so I drew the map on paper. I would hope that all of the extensions listed here could be built within 40 to 45 years - my year of completion was 2060 - however this is probably optimistic. Due to space constraints, I only added the IND and BMT Lines. I also left out the Triboro RX, although I would support building it between Bay Ridge Terminal and Jackson Heights. There are some IRT changes that I would make, but I couldn't add them to my map, so I have listed them below. The IRT changes I would make are: - down Utica Avenue to Kings Plaza - with a Rogers Junction rework, down Flatbush Avenue to Flatbush Avenue / Brooklyn College, down Eastern Parkway to New Lots Avenue - extension to College Point Thank you for looking at my map! I would be interested in critiques you have, and I can answer any questions.
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    Department of Subways - Proposals/Ideas

    I think that the line proposed here is a little too indirect for Staten Islanders. Since they live so far, they will want the most direct route to the city, not going all the way out to Brighton. It would be great if a Staten Island connection could connect into 4th Avenue. There is no space on the express lines now, but I have an idea for it (it would require lots of other changes to occur first though). I like that you are looking at an extension to Staten Island though.
  10. W4ST

    SUBWAY - Random Thoughts Topic

    I’d say the problem is that it makes it harder for Brighton riders to get to Manhattan fast. 4th Avenue has the train for going over the bridge, but the Brighton Line does not have an alternative. Plus, they wouldn’t be able to transfer to the or at Dekalb because they would be going express. (At least the , I am not sure about the ) Running time between lines doesn’t matter much compared to getting people where they want to go IMO.
  11. On subway time, I just saw a train to Canal Street at 59th Street Columbus Circle and later 14th Street - has anyone seen this unplanned service change before? There was also a train to 2nd Avenue not long after.
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    SUBWAY - Random Thoughts Topic

    Because it is summer, I was wondering: What are the hottest stations in your experience? Conversely, hich stations always seem cool? Some of the warmest stations I have noticed are: 14th Street Union Square 96th Street
  13. W4ST

    Department of Subways - Proposals/Ideas

    That’s why I would send the there. Due to the limit 10-car trains are needed. The could run 15 tph with 3 tph terminating at 179. The could run 12 tph the whole way or run 15 tph with 3 tph terminating at 2nd Avenue due to the Williamsburg Bridge Bottleneck (this would be after the L train shutdown.)
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    Department of Subways - Proposals/Ideas

    I agree with this except I think the should go to Jamaica Center and the should go to Jamaica / 179 because Jamaica Center is busier and needs all the train cars it can get. I also didn’t include to LGA or a third track on the in my plans but those could work.
  15. At least as I interpreted it only Broadway Local trains would go to SAS and only Broadway Express trains would go to Astoria. It wouldn't be about time savings, it would be about the merge with the . If all Broadway Express trains go to SAS as well as the , it is limited to 15 tph because of the . If all Broadway Local trains go to SAS, it would be the same, but Broadway Local only needs 15 tph, while Broadway Express needs more due to a higher demand to cross the Manhattan Bridge. Plus, Broadway Local is more flexible due to Whitehall Street.

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