Just New York

I would love to see a lot of this broad face to face these mouths are very loose. It’s either the board way or your talking nonsense when half of you drive or only take buses In your neighborhoods.

As someone that does both equally I see a lot of rider input while biases cry babies @B35 via Church, @MysteriousBtrain pushing there opinions as fact. I don’t do bullies In the real world so why would I care over a screen. I’m not just my neighborhoods I’ve rode just about the whole system been outside before 21 and this safe New York. I doubt either of you ride buses in half the neighborhoods you give you input in. So how do you know what work from the last 10 years you been in that area ?? You pass through the area does count as you knowing more then a resident or someone that use that almost ever day. Learn to humble yourself you are not that smart either as you just feed off your master@East New York information. So if he going for the job you two should show him the ropes once you get off your knees.

6 hours ago, Lex said:

In other words, nothing's really changed.

As others have pointed out, the B1 is far too packed with KCC students to handle anyone else, and even with the B49 there to take some (not that much, since it's simply not as desirable) stress off, the core issue is that KCC is doing nothing to help. Rebranding some buses to indicate that they won't make any stops by nature (rather than being too full) will, if anything, make the route even less attractive to those with no KCC affiliation (as @B35 via Church  basically pointed out).

You worry about something we can’t control which is  KCC. The B1 can be modified and actually labeled which would make a huge difference. By putting the B1X on the schedule you free up Regular B1 as most KCC students will opp for the B1X then regular B1. I didn’t bring up the B49 because it does not serve the train station nobody going to walk from West end Avenue. 

3 hours ago, Lex said:

Except it doesn't, as nearly all of the Manhattan Beach ridership is from KCC. Doing that would lead to the B1 still being ridiculously packed for those trips starting at KCC while the ones not starting there carry air to Brighton Beach (assuming students don't walk the extra distance to catch those trips).

All B1 should start from KCC The B1X would act as a limited. That way you don’t have packed B1 while people stand on oriental blvd and wait.

B1 - every 4-5

B1X - every 8-10

12 hours ago, aemoreira81 said:

Now they stop mid-way in the campus (admin loop), and the crowding problem has been largely resolved with headways no greater than 12 minutes (it used to be 30). I would also have to wonder about perhaps a B1X pattern, with the first stop being Brighton Beach. I would dispatch it like this during peak times:

First B1: express to Brighton Beach, all stops afterward to Bay Ridge.

Second B1: local to Bay Ridge

Third B1: bypass KCC, start pickup at second stop.

Also, CUNY needs to consider buying its own buses and then leasing them to one central contractor.

We had a similar situation I was in JHS the B6 trippers to ENY. At one point we had both the B6/B82 but it was a issue because they would be close door from E 82 st to Rockaway parkway. Now it’s just The B6 with the 4 trippers which operates as normal from E 82 St to ENY. 

Normal customer can now either wait 15-30 for a already packed regular B6 or Get on the Trippers full of kids. 

This option could work because the 3rd Bus would not have KCC students. The 2nd bus shadows the B1X so by the time the 3rd leave you have normal service towards the train stations.

13 hours ago, B35 via Church said:

This inner feelings ass shit.... Debunk my talking points or shut the f*** up....

.....and stay in school while you're at it.

Seem like you can read it’s not much else to debunk. Just like the B84 you are not in these neighborhoods so talking to you is minute. 

On 4/16/2019 at 1:34 PM, B35 via Church said:

You have a history of making up shit on here anyway, so this reply of yours is par for the course....

You can't debunk what's being said on here, so that person's piggybacking information off someone... Nice copout.

Coming from someone that believes merging the M35 & the M100 "won’t suffer from any combo or change.", you can't tell me a damn thing about how those 2, or any other MTA operated bus route in this city is utilized... Yes, including your punk ass B84.....

Go take a nap.

Same... and not on no, only one time only bit, either..... My analyses of these routes are A1 & have had a few people on these parts over the course of 2 decades now, tell me that they respect my knowledge - and on these NYC transit based forums (here, subchat, and any of the older ones that went defunct), you are NOT going to get people to easily come out & admit that..... You've been around the block, you know this.....

As far as the topic at hand, the supporting arguments for a merge of these two routes are all rooted in bullshit....

I'm also done with this M35/M100 nonsense.

You clearly mad at someone other then me maybe yourself, Definitely state facts. I’m around the city not one section talking about a trip I took years ago. Your not current outside of Flatbush so slow your tuff guy roll. Like I stated before I don’t do this extra forum chatter I come to give my options like everyone else. But once again you sensitive member constantly try to attack my post. Bro do your thing with these Foamer/Buffs I really don’t care how you feel nor will I ever. 

3 hours ago, B35 via Church said:

Oh, I was actually referring to his whole post... Nothing but untruths.

Coming  from people who don’t ride most the lines they speak on 😂😂😂. Im around the city not one area like most who piggy back info they believe to be true. 

15 hours ago, Future ENY OP said:

I’ve been watching this convo for the past few days and I’m going to say this only. Leave the  M35 and any surrounding routes along 125th alone. These buses serve a valuable purpose down 125th. No need to deviate any of the lines to service Randall’s Island with exception of the M35. The M35’s main purpose is to shuttle patrons from their small community to the Manhattan mainland that is IT! Any changes to that will cause major delays. I also refuse to call the Triboro bridge the RFK just like the Battery Tunnel the Hugh Carey Tunnel. 

So in turn. Leave the forementioned bus lines alone around the Harlem area. #fin 

In the case of the M35/M100 argument both routes won’t suffer from any combo or change. The M100 does not carry a lot of patrons eastbound on 125 as most people are leaving the Borough. As for Randall’s island it has no effect on the westbound service they just need connection to the mainland. 

Bx15 - will effect service on Third Av 

M60 - will effect LGA service 

M101 - will effect Lexington 

The M100 service west of 1 av would not see much of any change the M101 does most the lifting on Amsterdam.

On 4/13/2019 at 6:49 PM, MysteriousBtrain said:

So you go ahead and predict ridership in all five boroughs for us then. Maybe even try to outdo Byford and make him very proud of you.

That what farebox collections, Ride survey other methods are used for. What you do with that knowledge make all the difference, chance given I feel I would do extremely well.

4 hours ago, WestFarms36 said:

The CNG Order was never botched, they were just simply retired once their expiration date on their tanks had been met. If this were about botching buses, then where the hell would our replacements be?

The retired fleet is not the problem is was no mystery that WF needs buses. It’s the same story they could not have foreseen the growth which is BS. Byford need to really change the lazy culture that runs rampant in MTA management.

12 minutes ago, WestFarms36 said:

@Future ENY OP@MysteriousBtrain@Coney Island Av ...Then here is guy #2. It's an endless cycle.

Not guy one or two just me with a brain nothing major.

The M35 is not struggling, It can be streamlined as well. It does it need to go across 125 you already have 4 lines. Harlem is not in a uproar about anything with the M35 but its not maximize to its potential.

On 4/10/2019 at 11:50 PM, MHV9218 said:

Cracks me up that these idiots rush to scrap the functional RTS fleet and now there's shortage that requires loans across the borough...oops.

The same one who botched the CNG order that created this.

UP loans  - 454, 458, 4240

13 minutes ago, JeremiahC99 said:

6800 is an EN unit, not an MV unit.

6506 ENY - UP

2 hours ago, Lex said:

Because the M35 is somehow useless.

Of course, the fact that such a short route even has the ridership to justify articulated buses is completely overlooked with that "analysis"...

Not every M100 maybe every other could work.

15 hours ago, Jdog14 said:

 

It wont bring people who ditched the system altogether because said routes are so slow 

The busway would if they don't ditch it.

Maybe a 3 way swap between MJQ/CS/FLA those 60xx at CS could maybe go to FLA. Since there not giving FLA all 57 of the new XD that helps millage wise.

13 hours ago, East New York said:

Correct. That however had nothing to do with what we were talking about and his knowledge of operations or lack there of. I thought he was talking about a double decker. 😕 Bus fanning does not qualify for knowing what’s going on. Lol

All new buses purchased come with a warranty no matter the agency or manufacturer. Maintenance occurs in house unless the vehicle is leased or maintenance is contracted out which I don’t think I have heard of mor general situations. All warranty works are performed by the manufacturer.  Warranties are 12yr/500,000 miles base, and some manufactures offer extended warranties. There there are components like engines, destination signs, windows, and sometimes other components that may be manufatured by a 3rd party vendor, and have separate warranties. 

I don’t think 200 buses will be retired in 6-9 months.

We don’t kno what it is. It could be MTA, and not Nova. I don’t have any details at all as of right now.

Yes, the Flatbush allotment has been subject to change for over a month now. Remember all the XE60’s will be here by the end of the year. I’m waiting on confirmation now cause part of this doesn’t make sense. Quill only has 40 old LFSA’s. There’s no need for them to be getting 75 new artics.

As far as the color scheme, there is no longer a reason for them to come in local scheme seeing as the M14+ is back on the table.

 

0016-0019 are all back at Grand. 0020 is still at Proterra. None of them are in service pending the return of 0020 and what I am being told a 0021. However it is unclear of the configuration. 

Seeing as the brakes are the only issue, I would assume it would be all sorted out over the next few months. They have about 7-6 more months to qualify, but if they don’t, all 45 will be going to New Flyer. BYD plans on having their 40 foot and 60 foot versions enter bus test and evaluation for validation in 2020. 

 Can you stop posting these predictions and such. This thread is not for speculation or what your think may happen. That confuses people and misinformation starts getting passed around . This is for discussions on solid information or questions about pending orders and projects.

Also, you are a year off. The buses will be going back. The lease is up in December for buses to be returned in January. Proterra buses however could stay longer after a potential brake retrofit. 

 

You could not have thought that seeing as I posted the fleet number, please don't jab defentily not a fan/foamer thanks.

12 minutes ago, trainfan22 said:

He's talking about the GMC RTS that got repowered into a DD50. I'm pretty sure most members on here were really young when that bus was in service. That bus was retired like what, 15+ years ago?

It was repowered in 1993 to be exact 

9 minutes ago, East New York said:

I totally agree, but every now and then people need to be reminded that if it were not for people like Trevor, (The Real) Deme (Seven Eleven), Shane (Cait) and the rest of the moderation staff, and other TTMG members, the masses would not have any of this information anyway. We have all paved the way for transparency, and by Harry continuing to provide the platform we can both share and help improve transit. 

Countless people who have become members here, were then inspired to apply for MTA and were hired in. 

People need to understand that this is a privilege, not a right. Once upon a time we went on strike here at NYCTF. For those that were around, I think you know what happened when we snatch all the information.

I literally removed ALL the information, posts and updates on every project from buses, to subways, and railroads. That was the longest 72 hours ever for many members. But 99% of the members that were here then supported our strike. What we do is not for clout. It’s to share what we love and improve on a broken system that takes diplomacy to fix. I have never owed anyone an explanation or been the “I told you so” type of guy when information hits the black & white. 

Every now and then these new members need to be reminded that we all built this platform from the ground up. We don’t have to share anything and can sit back and watch everyone speculate until MTA makes it public. Now people feel entitled to this information, and or just like to troll.

There are plenty of plans to change in sight. It’s called “Fast Forward,” and all citizens of the city of New York, as well as any other riding public were invited to comment and still are at community board meetings. Why didn’t you go?? As a matter of fact why don’t you go to the next one..... Oh wait, you aren’t even in New York City......... So you can’t..... 

You say all that you want to do when you work for the MTA, so why don’t you start now. Don’t know what this 3160 is you are talking about, and then you say that you rode the DD Test bus every day....... Interesting. Did you document it? I would be very interested in you telling me each run it was on each day it was in service...... I’ll wait....

It ran mostly during the week out of UP B6 morning Runs. I'm in and out of NY im a contractor link the dates sounds fun. Im very accessible don't mind showing my face from behind this screen more my speed. 

22 minutes ago, East New York said:

We aren’t blaming anything on anyone other than the agency. Your facts are not accurate, and all you are doing is complaining @Just New York.

I don’t know the issues and just smile. I advocate for change. I get change. You do nothing but rant. Yes, I am free to ban you at anytime, but I will grant your 1st Ammendment Right for the time being. Even though you have, and continue to break a certain rule just for the record, I’m willing to overlook that momentarily. 

You say I know more than you think, but you have yet to display any of your intelligence, or knowledge on anything of substance. Not to mention that grammar of yours is baffling, and half the time I have no clue as to what you are actually talking about. I’m also pretty sure that “Jap” is offensive.... maybe I’m wrong... Maybe you don’t know any better??? I’m just all confused here. 

As a matter of fact, what’s really going on? What the hell is your issue exactly??? All you do is bash the MTA, then said you don’t work for them “yet”....  As in you are planning on it??? YOU?? That’s like me going to work for “that company” that operates NICE. Do you plan on working for MTA sometime in the near future? What position do you want?? 🙄

Its spell check on this phone it's a Lot already. I enjoy and love the system family from drivers to C division I call a spade a spade. I didn't wanna even talk about this that why I refrained from going into it. I will not be belittled either I've been very respectful despite the jabs. My issue wont change because the MTA is ran like a joke with no plans to change in sight. 

I will serve the people with respect as it did once apon a time and help people not just collect a check, when my time is called. I have fact and my in sight come for workers past and present so I know its fact I let you save face because this is your broad. Im not fact check with anybody on here it's not that serious to me. I rode the DD test bus everyday 3160 it's little thing like that i know to be FACTS but I'm not here for clout so I don't really care I enjoy transit.

You have knowledge as do other people your not the only source In NYC.

6 hours ago, East New York said:

Again, just you knowing nothing of which you speak. So for your information and anyone else that wants to know, what I do as a business owner is provide solutions to the industry in many capacities. I have consulted with every top transit agency in the United States, and 3 other countries. I have consulted and or done business with EVERY major component supplier across the board. I am a mechanic, transit systems engineer, transit consultant, and bus owner.

Back in 2008 I submitted a post and report on what I would do to improve transit across all agencies if I were the CEO of the MTA. Did you know that MTA took 98% of my report and did just that over the last 11 years?? Improved transit. I don’t just sit around and let the MTA feed out BS, I have always, and will coontinue to hold them accountable, while simultaneously not jumping down their backs, or trashing them at every turn. I maintain a relationship where they know that what I have to say makes sense, and they not only take it into consideration, but have actually used, it, and employed it into every day operations.

So let’s get into what I put in that report or others that MTA has implemented to date. 

1.) Off-Board payment, with all door boarding. SBS was born.

2.) Create a validation program and extensively test buses and components for better in-service reliability. They BTE program was then created.

3.) Sit down with NFI, get over the D60 fiasco, and allow them to submit the C40LF because the LFR nor Xcelsior is validated under BTE guidelines. They have enough parts from the cancelled CTA order, and they can fabricate others. In addition, the system components like multiplex, lighting, and interior will be similar to LFR/X standard. The lower side panel protectors are the same as those found on the Xcelsior as well. They can resurrect the LF series from the dead, bid on the contract, split award with Orion and test both models sided by side. 

Result, MTA thought it was an excellent idea, awarded TA CNG’s to NFI for the C40LF (everyone said I was lying and the LF was dead, then said ok, maybe you are right but it will be LFR’s cause again the LF is dead as has been for a while), and the Bus Co award went to Orion. Now we have the only 4th gen NFI LF’s in existence along with the 4000th CNG ever made. 

MTA would subsequently order 4 sets of 90 test buses from 3 manufacturers. Something else everyone, even countless MTA employees and even some upper lever management (who was not in the know) told me it was not true because MTA doesn’t operate like that. I said they do now, and it’s a new day. This is what I recommended they do. That’s when I really got attacked and people said who do I think I am? I was making up things for for views on my posts and everything under the Sun. That’s when MTA brass validated my nick name of East New York and started calling me Surface Transit HQ in the flesh. Brass that I didn’t know then started asking who I was because they couldn’t believe i was spot-on.

4.) Have a sit down with MTA about launching the RTS low floor. As a gift to me, this meeting that I brokered between both companies was conducted on my birthday because of my long history with all the RTS manufacturers. I am also an RTS owner. Myself along with Trevor Logan, MTA, and the MTA drafted up the specs and top-secret design for the new line or RTS buses. MTA initially accepted the proposals for both the 42.5 foot high floor express, and the low floor 40 foot Extreme. The plans were for 90 buses each. MTA Ops planning then decided they only wanted to stick to 45 foot express buses as the RTS Express NG would be limited to only a few depots. 

The standard 40 foot program however moved forward, and the MTA then requested 8 pilot buses for 6 month testing, 22 Buses 6 months later for extensive 90 day testing, then the last 60 with final production specs after that. After MTS reviewed the terms, they decided they were unable to meet them unless the MTA guaranteed the purchase, or ordered all 90 at the same time as they did with the other manufactures. MTA would have rather offered the RTS Extreme Electric, but MTA was not interested in the technology at the time. 

MTS was unable and unwilling to open the line and have to lay employees off twice until MTA gave the full notice to proceed. The entire MTA management was the same team from the Nova, NFI, TMC, and GMC. They said MTA was notorious for rejecting buses, and found not risk a repeat of “8750.”  They made the bus exactly like the 8600-8703, and MTA rejected it because they decided after the bus was delivered they didn’t like the decal placements, and wanted to change a couple other components for some of the buses. Then MTA decided they were changing the livery all together and had to redo the bus yet again. 

MTS final statement was we cannot proceed with the current level of funding we have.

MTA final systems was, let us know as soon as you can and we will issue a notice to proceed. To this day, they invite MTS to every bid opportunity. 

5.) Merge Operations of Bus Company OA and TA at East New York in an all new state-of-the-art command center. Now built and opening soon.

6.) Merge the branding, fareboxes, and destination signs. Finally, years later it is on the horizon for completion by summer pick 2021.

7.) Kill 3 birds with one stone. Start charging $1 for new MetroCards, make them refillable, and simultaneously rid the streets and stations of MetroCard litter which was out of control at the time. 

8.) Submit a proposal to the FTA detailing how you need to move forward with SAS immediately and use an existing B-Division line to run up the first segment. Don’t wait until the entire line is finished to open it with the (T). Result, as a gift to me, living off Avenue H at the time, my  train started going to 96th Street. Look where we are now! Thank The Lord.

I could continue, but I think we get the point now. My overall point to you is that you have no idea who I am, and all you do is insinuate, pass judgement, criticize, and debate about things which you are clueless about. 

Instead of arguing and being combative, stand up for what you don’t like. That’s exactly what I did and now look where we are. You can say whatever you want about me because I’m a Capricorn, and what someone else “thinks” has never held weight in my life. 

Reality is all that matters, and when I started this I said my goal was to improve public transit for all. Not just bash the MTA and complain all the time, but actually do something about it.

MTA definitely has a long way to go, and many practices they have I do not condone. That’s where diplomacy comes in. Do you know what that word means?

Don’t talk about it, stand up for what you want changed and be about it. That’s just 1/10 of my transit track record above. What have you done other than run your mouth? If you are not going to help, contribute or criticize constructively, I would again like to remind you that there is another transit “chat” board for all that extra nonsense. 

NEXT BUS PLEASE

Glad your feather are done I never ask anybody to think like me. Im entitled to my thoughts as well as my views of this system or other like NJT. Your free to ban me anytime you don't intimidate me and this won't change my stance or what I've seen. Bottom line the system is not getting better by a long shot and "I" don't see any of these changes helping in the long run. 

This broad is not the last stance just because you keep sheep mentailite members. Dialogue goes both way so I keep the energy thats given I'm very receptive to Info. Im not at liberty to explain anything to anybody nobody pays me neither does the MTA yet. Everybody so smart on here so the system should have been fixed only thing is I know in the real world it does not work that way.

The fact you know the issues make me smile you just eat the shit and call it cake. I can't do that never been my style it is broken with no fix in sight. people like your members blame everything on something other then the Agency so they will not change and your stuck paying more.

Oh somebody said politics don't play a part that was dumb seeing as the MTA does not fund it self. Only reason ORION is here because of buy NY it was cheaper. Moon ago they never liked the Jap buses as they called them but they forced the MTA to buy those I know more then you think i just don't owe any of you.

12 hours ago, East New York said:

New rule here at NYCTF:

Do Not Feed The Animals.

Now moving along to things of substance, the first page of Fleet & Depots will be slightly revised soon. However, as of now everything is accurate. 

🤣🤣🤣🤣 that was cute you keep taking it on the chin for your system.

8 hours ago, East New York said:

Clearly you have NO concept or clue as to how things really work within the MTA. CNG coaches were not our thing and it’s irrelevant anyway. It’s just plain stupid for an agency the size of MTA to order CNG express buses that essentially would never be able to be transferred anywhere other than CP or SC. 

Having family working for the MTA doesn’t mean squat either. I DONT work for the MTA and get almost all information before 98% of MTA employees even hear about it. Being a contractor looking from the outside it’s quite clear MTA has lots of room for improvement. 

And when WF opened they had 0 CNG buses thank you. So what got converted? Everything starting the day they opened! Duh!!!

Then you say nothing is brand new! What??? Are you somewhere under a rock!!?? Like GTFOH with this combative bullshit. Get your facts together before you speak, or go to that other “Chat” board where anything goes. 

Next Bus Please

No rock just use my eyes unlike most here who don't work for the MTA just like you. It's not killing me that the system suck I'm not going to lie to myself either. Dumb moves like closing walnut at the high of ridership with no real options are just one of many Odd moves made by MTA. You really think this broad is the life lol I still enjoy transit here or not. The facts of the bad mangement will still be there and the MTA will continue to crumble. Rock on feed your self this narrative that this is not the MTA fault if it works for you.