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58 minutes ago, RandomRider0101 said:

Yes they can and have exercised multiple car orders at one time before, but subway cars today are more complex than they were back then. They are bound to have more issues now than before.

The priority should be replacing the R46s first; they are older than the R62/As and are worse mechanically. The R62/As are in good shape and don't need to be replaced at the same time as the R46s. That's what I'm trying to say.

The R262s will most likely not be here until after the R211 order is done; and the following order (R68/A replacement) will probably not come until after the R262 order is done. So it doesn't make that much of a difference.

I doubt the R211s are that much more complex than the first gen NTT (R142/143/160/179) . "Under the hood" I wouldn't be surprised if the R160s and R211s are identical  ... they even have the same trucks.

14 minutes ago, R32 3838 said:

 

 

 

They really had no choice, They didn't even get an SMS and when they did they only did a very light one to 18 cars for that shuttle. They Even tried retiring them around 2012 with 50 R32s after they were SMS'ed but they decided not to do that because they didn't want to reduce the R32s spare factor.

 

 

 

 

 

I believe all 50 cars that survived the R160 order got an SMS at least once. There's an photo of an SMS'd R42 in CI overhaul shop taken in 2017

https://nycsubway.org/perl/show?148099

Another photo of an SMS'd 42 on the  

https://www.nycsubway.org/perl/show?152633

The R68/68As will not fall apart, they are stainless steel and can run as long as the R32s did if necessary. With the Redbirds and 38/40/42/44s it was body issues (rusting, etc) that was an bigger issue than mechanical performance

I'll  never forget fans saying that the 42s wouldn't be able to last past the late 2000s..... only for them to run until 2020.

1 hour ago, RandomRider0101 said:

1+ year of testing is normal today for subway cars, although the parts shortage has caused the testing to take longer.

I agree that MTA should be ready to order replacements for the older cars. But even then, subway car orders have to be exercised consecutively, not simultaneously. This is to avoid a bigger headache in case all the cars have major issues.

NYCT can receive different car classes at the same time. At one point in the early 2000s the TA was receiving brand new Bombardier R142s, Kawasaki R142As and R143s all at the Same time. It can be done, if the new cars have issues just keep the old ones in service until the teething issues are worked out on the new stuff. That's what did with the R142/142A when they was new, IDK why posters in this thread so worried about new car orders coming in simultaneously, TA made it work in the past and can do it again.

I believe the R62A and R68 orders overlapped as well.

Tonight on the train home the C/R made that there's NYPD on the platform announcement at Myrtle-Wyckoff.

News article released today on the R211 option order...

The MTA board will vote this week on whether to spend $1.78 billion purchasing 640 brand-new train cars to replace its aging rolling stock.

The brand new R211 cars, produced by Japanese multinational Kawasaki, would come on top of 535 cars previously purchased from the same company for $1.4 billion, whose arrival in the Big Apple has been delayed by over a year owing to the COVID-19 pandemic, supply chain issues, and labor shortages.

If approved, the MTA would execute an option from its original 2018 contract to purchase more conditioned on good performance, although no R211s presently operate in passenger service and only a few have been delivered for testing. Further options could bring the number of R211s in the system to over 1,600 should they be executed. The contract is financed by the federal government, and could ultimately be worth about $4 billion.

The shiny new carriages could be expected for delivery to New York between February 2025 and December 2026, per MTA procurement documents, and would replace the 1970s-era R46 cars on the A and C lines

 

 

https://www.amny.com/transit/mta-spending-new-subway-cars/

 

 

 

I'm 100 percent sure they will vote yes haha

46 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

Who said I was the one using it? Sometimes we ask questions for others.

You said "When I dip my metrocard" the driver told me "MY card" so I assume you was talking about yourself. 

29 minutes ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

lol Reduced fare Metrocards are NOT just for seniors, disabled or people on SSI.  If you fall under the income threshold to qualify for the Fair Fares Program, you can also qualify for a reduced fare Metrocard. Funny how many assumptions you are making.

I know about the fair fares program, I thought OP was talking about himself and he makes it well known on here what his employment is so I seriously doubt hes qualified for some fair fares program.

12 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

Reduced Fare Metrocard 

How do you have a reduced fare metrocard when you're not a senior and have a job? Only non senior ppl who have reduced fare cards are ppl on SSI or disabled. 

You can work part time on SSI and still receive the reduced fare card. But you can't get a reduced fare card while being young with a full time job AFAIK....

No wonder they "blacklisted" your card.

Just because a bus has a dent on it doesn't mean their maintenance is bad.

For example ENY has good maintenance yet one of their 4800s has an damaged railing or A/C cover or w/e it is on the roof.

Ppl hate on GH but I never hear anybody complain about the service quality on their routes. While depots with good maintenance out there have routes that run poorly. Always wanted to point that out.

As for the best, I'd say it's an toss up between all the Brooklyn depots (except for Ulmer Park) all the years I've been riding SC routes I only had an issue once where an C40 HVAC wasn't working properly on a hot day, kept shutting on and off and it was warm inside the bus. But I'm pretty sure every depot a couple of buses out on the road with minor defects.

I wonder if NYCT ever considered married pairs again for the NTT to increase flexibility. The M7/8/9's on the commuter railroads are in married pairs and have those computer screens in the cabs just like the R142 and up do on NYCT. So maintaining additional master controllers, computer screens and whatever other equipment is in the cabs shouldn't be an massive extra expense considering LIRR & MNR does it.

But open gangway seems to be the future for NYCT so two five car sets to make up an train it is.

10 hours ago, FlxMtroD said:

All I can say is that they ( NJT) better partner with Awesome Diecast to get their colors I  New Flyer XD60 diecast, The RTS T80-206 series in both the tri color slant (95-96) and the wave (99-00). Not to mention the Flxible Metro New look and GMC Fishbowl. I've talked to the person of Awesome Diecast months ago about getting the XD60 in NJT colors, but he told me he couldn't because Transit wouldn't allow it

Surprised NJT wouldn't allow it when when there's NJT content for Train Simulator, with the NJT logo on the trains and everything. You gotta pay for the NJT content too.

Never knew NJT had an store at Newark Penn.

Just who exactly is this marketed too? Only transit buffs are the only people I can see wearing a NJT themed polo. I don't think there are enough transit fans in NJ for this to be an success lol.

Even in NYC, I only see railfans wearing those subway bullet tees, never regular commuters. I had an subway map T shirt and wore it to my high school and nobody clowned me to my surprise 

This will flop even with fans, it might have an chance with buffs if the merchandise had NJT iconic equipment like the Geeps, Arrows or Flxible Metro buses.

1 hour ago, JustTheSIR said:

Question: I got on an R68 in married pairs a few days ago at Cortlandt running on the W

if they had to run it on a 10 car train how would it work, would the conductor have a half cab and have to operate it like an older SMEE or are they never allowed to run as 10 car trains, or would the door controls be split into 4 and 6?

The R68 and R68As are linked in permanent four car sets. IIRC the Franklin Shuttle 68s are singles. 

I can understand how ppl get confused cause some of the unused  cabs in the 68/68A cars are full width.

They never would allow an 10 car 75ft consist to run in passenger service. They might be able to run an 10 car 75FT consist in yard moves but never in revenue service.

26 minutes ago, Lawrence St said:

Why are NYCT & MTA Bus Veichles split in different categories when tracking? Do they use different tracking systems or something? 

What app are you using? In the Transit Tracker app NYCT and MTA Bus track the same. I use it regularly to track the B42 and B103 (MTA Bus) .

4 hours ago, texassubwayfan555 said:

I think everyone almost forgot about these cars when the R211A test train arrived. Hopefully they are a success, it will be cool to see NYC finally get open gangway cars, a feature seen on worldwide transit systems for decades. (The MTR M-Train was built with them way back in 1977)

NYC already had open gangway cars years ago, the BMT D Types..

28 minutes ago, texassubwayfan555 said:

I wonder what the buyer plans to do with it. Also about the the Redbirds, why were none preserved like some of the other retired trains?

There's quite a few Redbirds apart of transit museum collection, they just repainted some of the pairs into pre GOH paint schemes. There's an R36WF pair in the museum fleet still in the Redbird paint scheme. As well as one R33ML car in a pair (the other car in the pair is green). The R33ML & R33WF probably got the most cars in the TM fleet, it's ethier the R33s or the IND prewar cars with the most cars in the TM fleet.

1 hour ago, texassubwayfan555 said:

How do you find out things like this?

Can't speak for others but for me, riding the line and seeing those car classes on the .

This usually happens when the terminates at 96th street and the is cut off from its yard and has to borrow cars from other lines.

There's both R62 AND an R62A on the today. Wanted the R62A but it was serveral trains behind the one I was on and I didn't feel like wasting my day waiting for it.

1 hour ago, QM1to6Ave said:

What do you mean by “messed up”? Is this an issue on the M8/9 fleets as well? 

This blog post explains it better than I could 

https://www.thelirrtoday.com/2019/09/m-7-window-splotching.html?m=1

The M8s windows are still clear on both sides of the train and the M9s will have the same problem as the M7s do on the southern windows.

LIRR M7 #7494 and its mate has clear windows on its southern side. As yall know most M7s windows on the southern side are messed up due to the sun.

NJ Transit MLV fleet has the same problem but on BOTH sides of the car due to looping at Sunnyside so NJT plans to replace the windows on its MLV fleet. Let's hope LIRR follows suit with its M7 fleet.

That type of railroad building is called an "Embankment".

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Embankment_(earthworks)#:~:text=A road%2C railway line%2C or,detour to follow a contour.

Advocacy group f**kery  Passengers United running up on Jumaane Williams outside of Hotels  Very entertaining video especially at the beginning. 

3 hours ago, FLX9304 said:

In 2000, both the Yankees and the Mets met each other in the World Series, yes the MTA did promote 7 Subway series Metrocards and 6 cars: R142s 6311-6315 was wrapped in Yankee pinstripes & R33 9327 was painted in Blue with Mets interlocking NY in the front. 

I know, I remember. I actually seen the pinstripes wrapped R142 on the line in service back then. 

1 hour ago, FLX9304 said:

? How come the  buses does not display root for sports teams (Yankees, Mets, Jets, Giants, Rangers, Knicks & Nets) like other cities that many of their vehicles display or root for sports teams on their destination signs? 

NYC has two sports teams for every sport, I guess that's why they don't bother with such a thing.

Let's say the Yankees and Mets meet in World Series or the Knicks and Nets play eachother in a playoff series, then what?

In general the MTA only does special things for baseball, wraps, vintage trains runs, etc. Both Kay and Gary got to do automated announcements in the subway but nothing from Breen or Clyde even though they just as legendary.

1 hour ago, Kamen Rider said:

They are going to need to record 90% of the 211S’s announcements from scratch.

 

What makes you say that? IF they recorded SIR announcements back when they did the A & B div announcements all they have do is an patch job deleting the two closed stations and add Author Kill Road and the S79 SBS transfer.

If they didn't record SIR R211 announcements until recently... Personally I hope the new lady that does the PSA announcements on the mainline NTT does the station to station announcements on the SIR with Charlie still doing the "Stand clear of the closing doors" announcement.

EDIT: The new lady name is Velina Mitchell