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The Notice of Examination (http://web.mta.info/nyct/hr/archives/pdf/3600.pdf) does not say anything about this, unless you are getting the Bus Operator Candidates confused with the Track Worker Candidates. And, if you are 100% sure that they are turning Track Worker candidates away because of this, I would write a very nasty letter to the Vice President of Human Resources and to the President of NYC Transit, cause this is not fair at all!!

I don't think so. I partially recall filling out the 21 page booklet for the Bus Operator position, and I remember them checking my abstract and driving history through the DMV without using the 21 page booklet. Keep in mind also that for all, or most of these civil service citywide jobs, they use the same 21 page booklet. Therefore, as long as you fill it out as accurate as possible to the best of your ability, and your interviewer does not you any questions about it during final processing, you should be fine.

No resume needed. There is an interview after the medical and drug test, to enter you into payroll, to receive your pass # (not the actual document), and information on where and when to report for training. As far as what to wear, I was wearing black jeans, a black sweater (not a hoodie) and a dress shirt underneath with the collar sticking out. So you do not have to wear a tie and a suit, but I would suggest to wear something nice and presentable.

When I went for employment processing for B/O exam 2613, I had to disclose my work history which included getting fired from one job and getting laid off from another. They did not ask me in detail about this, nor emphasize the negatives associated with getting fired. Therefore, IMHO, I would not worry about it. Things happen in life.

The notice of examination for B/O Exam 2613 said something very similar. When I went in for medical, the following happened: (From Bus Operator Exam 2613 thread, page 462, post #4611: http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/34980-bus-operator-exam-2613-questions/page-462) "it consists of more paperwork, a survey on their computer about your past(y/n questions) and health history, a hearing test, they take your blood pressure and weight, then they take your urine for sugar, blood and other things not drug related that may indicate health issues, then they do the EKG and finally you do your vision test. once thats done you see their doctor he listens to your lungs, makes you stand on one leg/then the other, he makes you squat, walk on your toes/heals, checks your throat and decides whether your qualified or not. you take the paperwork back to the front counters and you do your interview, take your photos for your id/ and you do fingerprints and photo again. then your done. they give you your pension packet, life insurance documents and a whole bunch of other paperwork for the union and they tell you when to report." If the TA Physician finds something wrong, just like how the Physician diagnosed me with Muscle Spasm in my legs, they will place you on Medical Hold and tell you to come back with a letter from a doctor stating that the medical condition is under control. In addition, for those who do go for medical, perhaps you can give us feedback as far as what the TA Physicians are specifically looking for?

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From post #50 of the Track Worker Exam 5016 thread (http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/11393-any-updates-on-track-worker-exam-5016/page-5): "I'd PM G83 with these questions. He just got hired 8 months ago and probably still remembers the process. I'm not sure how the process works now, but I can tell you what I remember from getting hired 17yrs ago. The first letter I recieved said to come down for interview(or something like that). Showed up and was told to pee in a cup. That's all we did. Told us to go home and wait for the next letter. Next letter came and said to show up for medical. Went down there and noticed half the guys that pee'd the first time weren't there. The surprise pee test knocked out half the canidates. Medical tests were for : Vision(if you wear glasses bring them), Hearing, Lungs(spirometer), Blood pressure, Hernia(yep, turn your head and cough), Heart(stethoscope back then, now probably EKG). I probably forgot some stuff but thats all I can remember. If you pass all the tests they'll give you a date to show up to school. If you fail some tests they'll give you a little time to fix it EG: If your fail the eye test(this happened to me) they'll let you go to the eye doctor to try to fix the problem(glasses etc..). Then you come back and have to pass the test you failed. There were no physical lifting tests. If you have any more questions I'll try to answer them. Good luck. "

Go back to the previous page (page 30) and read post # 293 for the answer. When I went for my physical this time last year, they said to expect a call within two to ninety (that's 2 to 90) calendar days. Now keep in mind that the drug test (aka pee in the cup) is only valid for 30 days. Therefore, when I went for the physical: #1) I took the initial drug test on November 7th, 2013 for the first time. #2) I got a call saying to take another drug test, which took place on December 19th, 2013. My 'physical' took place on December 31st, 2013. #3)As a result of being placed on medical hold, which resulted in me seeing a specialist, etc. I had to take a third drug test on January 21st, 2014. I went for Final Processing that Friday, January 24th and got sent to Zerega on February 10th, 2014. Hope this helps.

When I reported to 180 Livingston Street this time last year (January 2014) for the first time in order to be processed as a Bus Operator, they also had us pee in a cup and that was it. This makes sense because if you fail the drug test, they don't want to waste any more time or money on you. You're welcome.

First of all, I have a PDF version of the list saved to my computer and the person who has a list # of 1800 has a score of 97.5 and the person who has a list # of 3000 has a score of 95.0. Anyways, to answer your question, some anonymous person, who I wish to keep secret, told me that it is based on when you applied online or filed for the exam, which makes sense since you can view when you exactly applied, by date and the specific time (hour, minute and second). As an example: The filing period for this exam was from July 25th to August 8th of 2012. If three people file on different days (July 26th, 28th and 30) and get the same score on the exam (95%). Then the person who applied on July 26th will get a list number in the 2600s or 2700s, the person who applied on July 28th will get list number 280* (which is my case, even though I don't remember when I exactly filed), and the person who applied on July 30th will get a list in the number 3000s or 3100s. Now I am just taking about three people. Multiply this times 4,100, which equals 12,300 and you're close to the number of eligible candidates on the list, which is 12,494. If there is a dispute, the MTA just has to check when they exactly filed, or applied online.

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First, congrats on receiving the letter! Mind I ask what your list number is? You can hide the last digit. Like mine is 280* (which is in between 2800 and 2809). Second, as far as how many days they do for the physical, it should just be one. As far as what this consists of, this is from post #4611, page 462 of the B/O Exam 2613 Questions: "it consists of more paperwork, a survey on their computer about your past(y/n questions) and health history, a hearing test, they take your blood pressure and weight, then they take your urine for sugar, blood and other things not drug related that may indicate health issues, then they do the EKG and finally you do your vision test. once thats done you see their doctor he listens to your lungs, makes you stand on one leg/then the other, he makes you squat, walk on your toes/heals, checks your throat and decides wether your qualified or not. you take the paperwork back to the front counters and you do your interview, take your photos for your id/ and you do fingerprints and photo again. then your done. they give you your pension packet, health insurance documents and a whole bunch of other paperwork for the union and they tell you when to report." Hopefully this should help.

From my experience, this is the least important item anybody should worry about. The reason why is because after training is over and you pick into your depot, you have four [4] weeks of line training to learn all the routes of the depot. If you get lucky, you may be able to pick into a depot that is not that far from where you live, which would make line training a little easier.

I see...I just think they did that for the following reasons: a) If you look back at the Notice of Examination (http://web.mta.info/nyct/hr/archives/pdf/3600.pdf), the filing period was over two years ago and the civil service exam was given at least 18 months ago. Therefore, some people were anxious to get their list number. b) With the list having over 12,000 names, they have plenty of people to work with, especially since the list can possibly be extended another year or two for whatever reason. c) Any other reasons folks??

They have to? Then how come that was not the case with the Bus Operator 2613 list? That list was established, or made to the public on October 30th and I recall going down November 7th for the first drug test? In addition, why did I get my "official notice of results" after getting a letter to report for the first drug test?

I wonder how many, especially since the list contains 12,494 names and the HR Dept. let two months pass by without calling anyone...

(from dp142, post # 160 on page 16) You start at $20 an hour going up to around $29 an hour after 4 years. It's steady 52 weeks a year 40 hours a week minimum. You get a pension, health benefits, vacation time, sick time, holidays, etc. If you pick a capital job wether days or nights there is overtime at time and one half. In Track department there is plenty of room not only for promotions in supervision but also specialist jobs as a track worker you can pick based on your seniority such as Track walker (inspector) , Crane operator, Truck driver, Pay load operator, Welder / Burner jobs, etc. All of them Transit will have you trained in and if a CDL is needed in the event you pick a job requiring one they will pay for it. Some guys can make more on the outside in construction or even IT jobs but the job security out there is wearing thin. Here you'll have job security. Anything bad or I might find unfair with Transit still are not enough to make look for other work.

First of all, I appreciate your comment about me in the previous post. Just to add my two cents, my gut feeling is that this list will be released either late summer or during the fall of 2015. Like 161passenger said, even if a lot of B/O's retire (keep in mind the economic situation), from reading the 2613 thread, some Bus Depots are over-filled with operators, and with the upcoming general pick, things should even out as time evolves. In addition, if the B/O 4600 list has a lot of candidates who passed both the civil service and the BOSS exams, they do not want to waste any time releasing the list early, since the list is only valid for 4 calendar years, unless there is an announcement in which it is extended. My gut feeling is that this is the case, since the B/O 4600 exam was a little easier compared to the B/O 2613 exam. The 4600 exam had 60 questions - the 2613 exam had 80 questions, with the same amount of time to answer all of the questions.

Scroll down to the bottom of http://forums.officer.com/t162978/ and read the last post...that should answer your question. Also look at http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/16196-outstanding-certification-question/, that should help you as well. In addition, the last thread of http://www.realpolice.net/forums/background-checks-hiring-process-46/81873-nypd-outstanding-certification.html also answers your question. Need more links? Just do a Google search for DCAS and "Outstanding Certification", that's all...

I do agree that you must have this when you go to 180 Livingston Street for the first time. Even if you just have a temporary permit in your hand and not the actual document from Albany, it's okay. However, depending on how you did on the exam (and where you are on the list), I disagree with the fact that you have to get this now. Keep in mind that you can only renew this document once - after two years, you have to take the tests @ DMV all over again. In addition, as of this posting (11/25/2014), NYCT HR is a little past the half-way point of the list for B/O exam 2613. Keep in mind that Exam 2613 was given prior to exam 4600. Therefore, IMHO, it will be a few more months (at least two or three) before the list for B/O exam 4600 is established/produced/released, etc.

If you read the CDL manual and/or do some basic research, airbrakes are included in it, that's why.

In order to obtain a civil service job (Police Officer, Track Worker, Bus Operator [for NYC Transit], Conductor, Train Operator, etc., you have to take a civil service examination, in which you will be asked questions about the position. Example: When I took the initial exams for B/O 2613 and 4600, I answered a few questions using a bus timetable and a specific section of the Queens Bus Map. After NYC Transit only got 3,621 candidates from the B/O 2613 exam, they did make the B/O 4600 exam a little bit easier. One way is with less questions, 80 compared to 60. The track worker exam 3600 was mostly reading comprehension, including one passage on proper procedures when working on the tracks, and one passage on the difference between the IND/BMT (B Division) and the IRT (A Division). After taking this examination, providing you passed with a 70% score or higher, you will be given a list number based on how well you did on the exam. The higher the score, the smaller the list number which means you will be called sooner for the drug test, medical, etc. The lower the score the bigger the list number, which means you won't be called as soon, like maybe 3 to 4 years compared to 1 to 2 OR you won't be called at all if you got a 70% score or very close to it. Once you applied to MaBSTOA or MTA Bus Operator, they assign you a "random list number" since there is no civil service exam. A "random list number" is a number picked at random to which you are assigned. It is in that order that they will call candidates. However, as some of you folks previously mentioned, if you fail the BOSS test, you are removed from the list. Then, although your random list number stays the same, there are less people ahead of you waiting to be called. Similarly, if you go to 180 Livingston Street and fail the drug test, or have a long criminal record, then there will be less people ahead of you waiting to be called. Questions? Please do not hesitate to ask.

Only one wrong answer means a high score (98.3%) which will mean a smaller list number which means that you will be called sooner before those who got a smaller score, like me who got 4 wrong which is a 93.33% score. Worse comes to worse if you are unsuccessful in fighting the ticket, you can always pass on the offer and once the 3 years is over (providing you stay clean and nothing happens), then you can get your list # re-instated. As far as what number they are up to, there are several ways you can find out. (WARNING: Each way is not 100% accurate, however if you check all 3, you can take a good educated guess as far as where they are up to.) The first way is by checking this topic on this website! If you go through the 400+ plus pages of the B/O 2613 thread (http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/34980-bus-operator-exam-2613-questions/) several of the members, like myself, have posted our list numbers to get an idea. Mine was 27* (which means that my list # was from 270 to 279, since there may be TA personnel from HR on this site, since anyone can view this as a 'guest'). As time progressed, I posted my status about the drug tests, medical, training, etc. Other folks have also done the same, which will be done in this topic once they start calling us down for drug tests. The second way is to call DCAS at 212-669-1357. Just need to make the appropriate selection when calling and have your social security # and exam number handy. NOTE: They only update this once a month, usually the first weekend. So this will give you an idea, but won't be 100% accurate. The third way is to call the HR Department. If you do, they will only give you one number of what they are up to. They do not tell you if that person with that list # has just taken their first drug test, just got called for medical, etc. Any other questions? Don't hesitate to ask. We're here to help each other...

First of all, in my opinion, there is no need to re-produce what is on the MTA website, especially since I already posted it (pg 24, #235). Second, on page 24, post #232, another member posted the link to the list, therefore we already know that there are 12,494 people on the list. I do appreciate you telling us that your list # is in the 3000's, which is not far from mine, which is 280* (from 2800 to 2809). However, if we don't receive the letter with our results, we have to call DCAS? I'm just asking cause the letter I got was from NYC Transit, since they are the ones who administered the exam. Lastly, what do you mean by "THAT SHOULD GIVE YOU AN IDEA OF WERE YOU AT."? I'm confused and having trouble understanding what you are saying.