Mysterious2train

Like Amtrak 7 said, it's a LTD with no corresponding local and it has a non-stop portion; Northbound between Church Av & E 7th St and 3rd Av & State St, and Southbound from 4th Av & Dean St to McDonald Av & Caton Av. Also, part of the B103 really does run Limited, on from Cortelyou Rd down to the Junction. Elsewhere on the route, the B103 is really more of a local, it's just that in some places its stops are spaced further apart than your typical local. The B103 LTD's current form makes more sense if you consider that it descended from a private company's express route.

I saw RTS #9123 from Fresh Pond on the shuttle today. I thought Ulmer Park, Gleason, and Flatbush would have been more than enough to make service. Insread of that Fresh Pond bus, there should have been more Orion V CNGs or LFSes (For the record, I did see two LFSes; I would've loved to wait for them but I didn't have the time. I didn't see the Orion V that I saw early yesterday morning) Oh, and yesterday when I was coming home we passed by this angry old lady at Linden Blvd (you see, in front of us there were two B44 Limited buses, I was on a shuttle bus and there was another shuttle bus behind us) It must really suck to see 4 buses in a row all skipping your stop B)

I just saw another crowded shuttle bus pass by... it's barely 7 AM... I really hope this is not going to set a tone for the whole day. Forget an LFSA, looks like I'll have to be lucky just to see an LFS. Right now I've just been seeing RTSes (from Flatbush, I'm guessing) and New Flyer CNGs from Gleason. EDIT: What's funny is that in the last hour, all the shuttle buses were crowded and now they're all not-as-crowded. Right as I'm typing this, I see an Orion V CNG on the shuttle bus. Pretty interesting. Also, dumb question. About the shuttle bus: Am I going to get on for free, and then pay at Franklin, or pay now and get on for free at Franklin? I'm asking because I have two Metrocards that look exactly the same and I have to specifically use one of them. If I could save myself the trouble of walking over to Nostrand Ave to check which card is which at the train station and then walk back over to the shuttle bus at New York Avenue, I'd really appreciate it.

Remember that a part of Broadway is closed to cars so a straight run down is impossible. Plus the part of Broadway below 59th St that isn't closed is one-way Southbound, so how would it get up North?

I found an article about that yesterday. But I didn't think too much about it. I heard from a guy on the that the shooting was around Flatbush Avenue (station). While there's always the chance he was wrong, if memory serves that's also what the Countdown Clock said, that service was knocked out because of a 'police investigation at Flatbush Avenue'. The location of the shooting, Linden Blvd & E 49th St, is almost a mile away from Nostrand Avenue, and even then it's a little under a mile way from the Church Av station, and not Flatbush Av station, so I have no idea how it would necessitate a shutdown of the entire Nostrand Avenue line. Not to mention that the news story said that the police-gunman conflict lasted from around midnight - 1:00 AM, whereas and service on Nostrand Avenue was suspended around 5:30 AM. This doesn't add up. We could really use some more details...

That link just leads me to a blank page. Fixed it. But that article is vague, it's short and in terms of location, it never gets any more specific than just "Brooklyn".

So, because of [what I heard was] a shooting, and service was suspended from Franklin Av to Flatbush Avenue from around 5:30 this morning, to early AM Rush Hour. WARNING: LONG POST -------------------------------------------------------------- I get to the Beverly Road station bright and early around 6:30 and hear that there have been no trains for the past hour from the token booth clerk. I start panicking, you know, school and all that. I take the block ticket she gives me and leaves. The B44 wasn't an option, it'd take too long, and even if I did take it, trains were appearently skipping Nostrand Avenue. I don't know if it was related to the shooting or not. I could take it to the , but that would take much too long. I had to make my way over to the (. I should've have hailed a cab over to the Beverly Road ( station, but I was acting impulsively. I ran down to Newkirk Avenue, aiming to take the B8 over to the Brighton Line. Lots of people had the same idea. [For the curious, I didn't feeling like running up to Church Av for the B35 because Newkirk was closer, and I didn't want to run straight over to the Brighton Line.] When the mass exodus got off the B8 at Newkirk Plaza, some guy was holding open the back door. I was thinking "Hey, that's nice!" but he was only holding the back door open so he could get on through the back, ha ha ha. I need the ( but get on the because it comes first, and time is not on my side. I got on the , and while on it I heard that the appearent cause of the shutdown was a shooting around Flatbush Av station and that the victim had been taken to Kings County Hospital. I get off at Herald Square and run over to the 6th Av platforms. A arrives, and I take it to Columbus Circle, looking for an express train. But we get held up around Rockefeller Center and 7th Av-53rd St, which makes me think a train was delayed in front of us because of a crossing train. I mentally cursed because I guessed that I missed both express trains (I know the A and D only save 3 minutes over the B and C from 59th St to 145th St, but when you're in danger of being late, every minute counts.) I think I was actually correct... After that B left Columbus, another B arrived, and then a C and a D at the same time. I take the D to 145th, and end up running to school even though I hurt my foot What's funny is that I was exactly one minute late. I try to get to school 30 minutes early, so I had 30 minutes to fall back on. And I'm one minute late. What's even funnier is that if that B train was a D, I probably would've made it on time. I actually ended up OK, my first period class was taught by someone who was kinda lenient about lateness (She has big jobs around the school, so she's often late to class herself!) What's funnier still is that I had an eeriely similar experience this time last year, my only other lateness to school so far. Except then I wasn't OK, because I had the most fervent anti-lateness teachers in my school first period that day. Like that one did, this experience will probably make me leave earlier again. [until I regress....] What's funniest is that the and were apparently running again by the time the rest of my family left to go to school/work/whatever an hour later. Still, at least everything turned out OK in end. I'm waiting to see more news reports about this shooting (If any) before anything else.

So I was riding the B44 local home and this Limited right in front of us stops at New York Ave & Farragut Road (which is a local stop) and picks up a couple of people. Dunno what was up with that, especially since that same Limited didn't stop at any other of the local stops with people waiting at them.

I'm not sure. Today I saw four different R46 sets on the . I thought the and would be back to their normal non-summer assignments by now, but I guess there are other plans.

Gah! I'm still trying to get the hang of that, and you're tossing out highway expresses! I do agree the M101/M103 should be helped though. Even after the M103 split, the M101 is still one of the longer bus routes, and pretty busy too.

No problem. Thanks a lot!

It saves money having the terminate at Chambers instead of Broad St. Now you might be wondering "Would the really do that just to save money? It is only two stops." The answer is, yes

Hi guys. May I have a Orange Horizon sign for my siggy that says B44 Williamsburg Bridge Plaza B44 via New York Avenue I also put it in code form... B44^B44 Williamsburg÷Bridge Plaza^via New York Avenue [it's supposed to be what the B44 local destination sign might look like, after the Limited is replaced by Select Bus Service and moves from New York Avenue to Rogers Avenue...] Please and thank you!

A little boy threw up on the B6 while we were on Bedford Av and the bus was eventually taken out of service, forcing everybody had to wait for the next B6 going to Bath Beach, which naturally became crowded. By the time I got off at Bay Parkway station two other B6 buses had already passed us and a 5th bus was right behind us. I was going from around Church Av to Bay Ridge, and I didn't want to take the derptastic ®are train, and now I realized it would've been a lot faster to take the B35 to the B16. Such a derp is me.

Thanks for the codes bro :cool: With the B103, though, there's a third screen now that says Via Avenue H Via Avenue M So I guess it'd be like this: C [updated Number?] Route : B103^B103^B103 Destination : LIMITED^CANARSIE÷E. 94 ST^via AVENUE H÷via AVENUE M

Back on Tuesday, I think it was, I rode a PM Rush Hour in service to New Lots Avenue. I think it was the same New Lots-bound train I was on where all the passengers were booted off at Utica over a week ago, but I'm not sure (It was about a few minutes later, but all the trains seemed to be delayed a bit, so that could explain it) There was a conductor switch at Utica, though. A fair amount of people got on there, although some people didn't get on; I guess they were content waiting for the or something. For no real reason other than the lulz, I decided I'm not going to use Avenue H ( until the renovation is complete in about three weeks. 'Til then, I'll just use the (B8)

The should look into putting an officer or two at Nostrand Av and Fulton St bus stop. Seems to be one of the premier "enter-through-the-back-door" stops on the B44. Also, today, Con Ed was doing construction (construction as in, the entire area was inaccessible) on the near side of Nostrand Av and DeKalb Avenue where the bus stop was located, so everybody just waited on the far side of Nostrand & DeKalb instead. Basically, the local came first, so everybody piled on that, and it quickly became pretty crowded. We were making almost every stop. I was waiting to see how long it would be until a Limited passed us. It wasn't all the way until we were between Empire Blvd and Clarkson Av, around Midwood St. Between Midwood St and Church Av though, two more Limited buses passed us after that. Yesterday, when I was at Williamsburg Bridge Plaza, there were four B46s lined up together (compared to only one B44) which makes me think of the thread "Horrible Weekday Service on the B46" ironically. In fact, yesterday evening on the B44 Limited, people at Flushing, Myrtle, and Dekalb all passed up the local bus in front of us just to get on the Limited. Couple that to the fact the bus was already getting pretty full after the first two stops (Williamsburg Bridge Plaza and South 8th St) and we were already SRO by Dekalb Ave. Honestly, I thought that the Limited out of Williamsburg Bridge Plaza would be pretty empty until Flushing Av or something. I was pretty wrong on that count.

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Eh, I'm not all that familiar with the X1 and S79 to the point where I can muse about scheduling and dispatching. The S79 is kinda long from end to end, definitely. The others can help you with your queries B) Really? because the runs going to Kings Plaza during PM Rush actually aren't that bad. For the first part of PM Rush, the vast majority of the B46 trips (local and LTD) run down to the Plaza. It's not really until after 6 PM-ish that the short turns to Avenue H start cropping up (for both the local and LTD). Going up from the Plaza, people line up to board each B46 in good numbers, despite the fact that buses arrive almost like fire. Granted, you do have to consider that some buses are going out of service and slinking off to the depot at the same time. I do wish there were Fulton Street short-turns added. It gives service to the crowd about Eastern Parkway without having to go all the way up to DeKalb. Seriously, I can't stress how many people will just pack on Fulton Street. The is appearently going to add some AM Rush Hour, although I'm curious if it will be short-turns to/from Avenue H or to Kings Plaza. Still, it beats the B41. As you know, the B41 is split-branch to Bergen Beach and Kings Plaza. It never hit me how quickly service lessens from the Plaza. From around 6-ish in the evening, the local and limited both taper down to 20 mins each, so hypothetically it's an even 10 min-headaway... except the schedule shows weekday service from Kings Plaza to be thus: (Local and Limited, respectively) 5:19 PM - 5:26 - 5:36 - 5:42 - 5:53 - 5:58 - 6:13 - 6:18 - 6:33 - 6:38 - 6:52 - 6:58 - 7:12 - 7:18 - 7:32 - 7:38 - 7:52 - 8:02 - 8:14 Not hard to see the unevenness in the timetable. You often have B41 buses coming, dropping off people, and then going OOS in great numbers. Even the B2 (yeah, I went there) seems to be more consistent. Of course, the B2 at that time runs 12 minutes compared to the combined 10 mins of the B41, so it's not so hard. (To be fair, the B41 probably is a lot more-delay prone) Still funny how Kings Plaza has that much more weekend service than reverse-peak (and inverted with Bergen Beach.) The implication (as true as it may or may not be) that Kings Plaza is that much more busier on the weekend than in the reverse-peak, (including summer), and vice-versea for Bergen Beach, just saddens me. At the end of the day though, there's at least the Q35. [/rant]