R142 Posted January 20, 2010 Share #1 Posted January 20, 2010 The M-7's have a vertical row of 4 lights, green at the top, that change as the train stops, doors open, etc. Can somebody tell me what each color indicates? Thanks Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 20, 2010 Share #2 Posted January 20, 2010 Green - train is taking power (i.e. controller is between coast and max pwr) Amber - train brakes are engaged White - conductor is keyed in that location Flashing Red - parking brake on that car is engaged Blue - ASC is active in that cab I know this is how the LIRR M7s are; MNR may be different. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R142 Posted January 20, 2010 Author Share #3 Posted January 20, 2010 Thanks. I'm kind new here...what is ASC? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 20, 2010 Share #4 Posted January 20, 2010 ASC is the cab signal system used on the LIRR. It displays aspects of 15, 30, 40, 60, 70, 80 (all mph). As you move closer to other trains, the cab signal will downgrade obviously to maintain a safe distance between you and the other train. As the track is cleared the aspect will upgrade (up to 80mph, MAS for passenger trains on the LIRR). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mark1447 Posted January 20, 2010 Share #5 Posted January 20, 2010 Green - train is taking power (i.e. controller is between coast and max pwr)Amber - train brakes are engaged White - conductor is keyed in that location Flashing Red - parking brake on that car is engaged Blue - ASC is active in that cab I know this is how the LIRR M7s are; MNR may be different. Thanks, doesnt the M1 thru M6 also have something like this? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 20, 2010 Share #6 Posted January 20, 2010 Thanks, doesnt the M1 thru M6 also have something like this? I know M3s have lights on the sides, but I don't remember their exact placement as I rarely catch M3s. M2/4/6s i'm unfamiliar with as I only ride them once in a blue moon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Zman Posted January 20, 2010 Share #7 Posted January 20, 2010 Green - train is taking power (i.e. controller is between coast and max pwr)Amber - train brakes are engaged White - conductor is keyed in that location Flashing Red - parking brake on that car is engaged Blue - ASC is active in that cab I know this is how the LIRR M7s are; MNR may be different. I thought that green meant that the air brakes were fully released on that particular car. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted January 20, 2010 Share #8 Posted January 20, 2010 The PA-5s have the same lights at the A end of the cars. I will have to look through some of my PATH stuff to get the meaning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jayjay1213 Posted January 20, 2010 Share #9 Posted January 20, 2010 Green is brakes released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 20, 2010 Share #10 Posted January 20, 2010 I always thought that green indicated the motors were taking power; I always hear the inverter whine just as the green lights illuminates. Oh well, i've been wrong before, i'll certainly take Jayjays' word for it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregorygrice Posted January 21, 2010 Share #11 Posted January 21, 2010 I always thought that green indicated the motors were taking power; I always hear the inverter whine just as the green lights illuminates. Oh well, i've been wrong before, i'll certainly take Jayjays' word for it. I see what your saying but if you watch a MNRR M7 the green light will come on and then you hear the whine like 5 seconds later. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted January 22, 2010 Share #12 Posted January 22, 2010 I've seen (NJT) trains start to move before green...... - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 22, 2010 Share #13 Posted January 22, 2010 I've seen (NJT) trains start to move before green...... - A The train can move without the brakes fully released. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted January 22, 2010 Share #14 Posted January 22, 2010 The train can move without the brakes fully released. True. Sometimes they even roll back a bit! :eek: - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutgers Tube Posted January 23, 2010 Share #15 Posted January 23, 2010 I know M3s have lights on the sides, but I don't remember their exact placement as I rarely catch M3s. M2/4/6s i'm unfamiliar with as I only ride them once in a blue moon. M1/A's - M6's are more or less the same car with slightly different characteristics as far as MNR goes. I'm not sure about the LIRR. The lights can be seen just below the cooling grids on the curved portion of the roof on the M1, M2, M3 and M4 railcars in the pictures found on this page: http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://www.amherstrail.org/memberpages/Wayne-Koch-3-2009_files/CDOT%2520Tok_0.jpeg.jpeg&imgrefurl=http://www.amherstrail.org/memberpages/WayneKochSpottersguide.html&usg=____s5vgYGuYjZ6RBW_qoXDFbBJKw=&h=534&w=800&sz=208&hl=en&start=11&sig2=zpbh973_RvpD3RQIr5g5iA&um=1&itbs=1&tbnid=BHrtBy21C9HOGM:&tbnh=95&tbnw=143&prev=/images%3Fq%3Dmetro-north%2Bm4%26hl%3Den%26rlz%3D1R2GWYE_enUS361%26um%3D1&ei=s2laS6DfEKaBlgf7k4H7BA Special thanks to Wayne Koch for making that page (I hope I'm not in trouble for citing him like that! :eek:). Notice the difference in the amount of indicator lights amongst the different railcar classes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 23, 2010 Share #16 Posted January 23, 2010 Also worth noting is that the brakes applied/released lights are also on the interiors of the M7s, one set of lights on each end of the car. Of course, guard lights are also in each vestibule, along with the buzzer. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutgers Tube Posted January 23, 2010 Share #17 Posted January 23, 2010 Also worth noting is that the brakes applied/released lights are also on the interiors of the M7s, one set of lights on each end of the car. Of course, guard lights are also in each vestibule, along with the buzzer. What may be even more important to note is the non-working light over the bathroom door when it's occupied, a warning to make sure that the sliding lock work is usable. Because if it isn't and someone walks in on your using the bathroom, you might look like this: :mad: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 23, 2010 Share #18 Posted January 23, 2010 Just because the occupied light isn't illuminated doesn't mean that the door isn't physically locked...what you thought nobody was in there and used a coach key to get in? lololol Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutgers Tube Posted January 23, 2010 Share #19 Posted January 23, 2010 Just because the occupied light isn't illuminated doesn't mean that the door isn't physically locked...what you thought nobody was in there and used a coach key to get in? lololol Ha! Actually, I forgot that sliding lock is SUPPOSED to illuminate the light. However, I can recall a few times that I've been in the bathroom when I thought a SWAT team was trying to get in. Apparently some people are used to kicking the bathroom doors in at their own homes when they can't just walk in and out freely. B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 23, 2010 Share #20 Posted January 23, 2010 Ha! Actually, I forgot that sliding lock is SUPPOSED to illuminate the light. However, I can recall a few times that I've been in the bathroom when I thought a SWAT team was trying to get in. Apparently some people are used to kicking the bathroom doors in at their own homes when they can't just walk in and out freely. B) Ugh, don't get me started on some people & bathrooms. I was riding out of NYP a few weeks ago when someone went in the bathroom. Door locks, occupied light illuminates (as expected). Some idiot comes along and tries to open the door. After yanking on the handle a few times, they give up and stand in the vestibule. Not even five minutes later, they try again; banging on the handle and all. "Lady, do you not see the sign above the bathroom door that says 'OCCUPIED'? In plain English, that means someone is in the bathroom." I don't know how these dumbasses manage to breathe... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rutgers Tube Posted January 23, 2010 Share #21 Posted January 23, 2010 Ugh, don't get me started on some people & bathrooms. I was riding out of NYP a few weeks ago when someone went in the bathroom. Door locks, occupied light illuminates (as expected). Some idiot comes along and tries to open the door. After yanking on the handle a few times, they give up and stand in the vestibule. Not even five minutes later, they try again; banging on the handle and all. "Lady, do you not see the sign above the bathroom door that says 'OCCUPIED'? In plain English, that means someone is in the bathroom." I don't know how these dumbasses manage to breathe... Yeah, those are the same people who walk out of the Main Concourse and into the first car on the platform at GCT, then sit down and ask in which the direction the train will move. Intelligence tends to have its limits in most people, but idiocy seems to know no bounds... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NYCTrainFan95 Posted January 23, 2010 Share #22 Posted January 23, 2010 Yeah, those are the same people who walk out of the Main Concourse and into the first car on the platform at GCT, then sit down and ask in which the direction the train will move. Intelligence tends to have its limits in most people, but idiocy seems to know no bounds... Are you serious? That's hilarious. I would pay to see that. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted January 23, 2010 Share #23 Posted January 23, 2010 Are you serious? That's hilarious. I would pay to see that. I would ask them to step outside the train and explain how the engineer will put the throttle on max power in that direction (while pointing with fingers towards bumper block). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
gregorygrice Posted January 23, 2010 Share #24 Posted January 23, 2010 I would ask them to step outside the train and explain how the engineer will put the throttle on max power in that direction (while pointing with fingers towards bumper block). Lol They would probably take another train! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Truckie Posted January 24, 2010 Share #25 Posted January 24, 2010 Yeah, those are the same people who walk out of the Main Concourse and into the first car on the platform at GCT, then sit down and ask in which the direction the train will move. No, these people are used to having their trains platform on one of the tracks going into the loop. They only get confused when their train is on one of the other tracks. I know, the above explanation is a far stretch but it could happen Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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