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http://www.wbur.org/npr/141048592/occupy-wall-street-where-everybody-has-a-say-in-everything

 

If this does not tell what this Occupy Wall Street nonsense is about, then I do not know what will.

 

You're an idiot, man.

 

People are camping out, they need to discuss logistical things. Whatever they choose to collectively to make decisions is automatically American because THEY CHOOSE TO BE GOVERNED BY SOMETHING THEY PARTICIPATE IN, AND BELIEVE TO REPRESENT THEIR INTERESTS.

 

You know, kind of like the way the Declaration of Independence was worded, all that stuff nobody remembers from history class about "self determination", and kind of like how the US government used to be.

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People are camping out, they need to discuss logistical things. Whatever they choose to collectively to make decisions is automatically American because THEY CHOOSE TO BE GOVERNED BY SOMETHING THEY PARTICIPATE IN, AND BELIEVE TO REPRESENT THEIR INTERESTS.

 

You know, kind of like the way the Declaration of Independence was worded, all that stuff nobody remembers from history class about "self determination", and kind of like how the US government used to be.

 

Forgive me for a moment while I just laugh my head off at that being intrinsicly "American".

 

You Americans are so full of yourself sometimes, you know that?

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People are camping out, they need to discuss logistical things. Whatever they choose to collectively to make decisions is automatically American because THEY CHOOSE TO BE GOVERNED BY SOMETHING THEY PARTICIPATE IN, AND BELIEVE TO REPRESENT THEIR INTERESTS.

 

You know, kind of like the way the Declaration of Independence was worded, all that stuff nobody remembers from history class about "self determination", and kind of like how the US government used to be.

 

Forgive me for a moment while I just laugh my head off at that being intrinsicly "American".

 

You Americans are so full of yourself sometimes, you know that?

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Judge not lest ye be judged.

 

Both movements have fringes, its just that the Occupy Wall Street thing has lace fringes!

 

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Forgive me for a moment while I just laugh my head off at that being intrinsicly "American".

 

You Americans are so full of yourself sometimes, you know that?

 

I thought we were "Judging not lest ye be judged!" What happened?

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Judge not lest ye be judged.

 

Both movements have fringes, its just that the Occupy Wall Street thing has lace fringes!

 

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Forgive me for a moment while I just laugh my head off at that being intrinsicly "American".

 

You Americans are so full of yourself sometimes, you know that?

 

I thought we were "Judging not lest ye be judged!" What happened?

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I've already judged you, and I'll bite my tongue on it since there's not much positive to say.

 

If you don't understand the principles this nation was founded on...well we don't really care anyway do we? Because you're a Canadian, so at the end of the day you've got your own battles to fight. We don't really care what an outsider thinks about our nation's problems.

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I've already judged you, and I'll bite my tongue on it since there's not much positive to say.

 

If you don't understand the principles this nation was founded on...well we don't really care anyway do we? Because you're a Canadian, so at the end of the day you've got your own battles to fight. We don't really care what an outsider thinks about our nation's problems.

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We don't really care what an outsider thinks about our nation's problems.

 

That would be all fine and dandy if we didn't live in a Global world where nations are interconnected, i.e. their actions will affect other nations and vice versa. Isolationism doesn't work in this century.

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We don't really care what an outsider thinks about our nation's problems.

 

That would be all fine and dandy if we didn't live in a Global world where nations are interconnected, i.e. their actions will affect other nations and vice versa. Isolationism doesn't work in this century.

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That would be all fine and dandy if we didn't live in a Global world where nations are interconnected, i.e. their actions will affect other nations and vice versa. Isolationism doesn't work in this century.

 

That's not isolationism. You're not important enough for it to be an official policy. On the contrary, it's a forum way of saying "we recommend, but do not require, that you mind your own country's business...and if you choose not to, we reserve the right to 1-not care what you think and 2-not take it seriously when it comes to matters concerning our country"

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That would be all fine and dandy if we didn't live in a Global world where nations are interconnected, i.e. their actions will affect other nations and vice versa. Isolationism doesn't work in this century.

 

That's not isolationism. You're not important enough for it to be an official policy. On the contrary, it's a forum way of saying "we recommend, but do not require, that you mind your own country's business...and if you choose not to, we reserve the right to 1-not care what you think and 2-not take it seriously when it comes to matters concerning our country"

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I bet these guys have the same stupid idea as those Islamist pigs in the Middle East.

 

I said in the other thread I'll say it here. Take your ass out there and see it for yourself and get an informed idea of whats going on with this. From past conversations your opinions seem to have you come off as someone who looks on from a distance or mimics what someone else may have told you.

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I bet these guys have the same stupid idea as those Islamist pigs in the Middle East.

 

I said in the other thread I'll say it here. Take your ass out there and see it for yourself and get an informed idea of whats going on with this. From past conversations your opinions seem to have you come off as someone who looks on from a distance or mimics what someone else may have told you.

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Here's the thing; I went back to NYC for the weekend and swung by Zucotti Park, and I was rather amazed by what I saw. The protesters down there seem to have settled into a daily routine, including passing out their own self-published newspaper. They're pretty much all nonviolent and nonconfrontational, and the vast majority of the people who are there are either ordinary people who lost their jobs and/or homes, kids who got out of college but can't find a job due to the economy, and a few kids who wound up dropping out of college because there was no way in hell they'd be able to pay off four years of student loans.

 

As for the allegations of drunkenness, drugs, and exhibitionism, I call bullshit. It was the middle of the weekend and there was pretty much no alcohol in sight and I couldn't even smell any weed. There was some tobacco, but I think we can all agree that doesn't matter. Finally, the only "exhibitionism" going on was one woman with her shirt pulled down a little far in this pose: http://picturinghistory.gc.cuny.edu/item.php?item_id=180

 

Finally, as far as overthrowing the government and communism/socialism is concerned, I call bullshit once again. There's always a bunch like that hanging onto the fringes of any movement calling for change and I shouldn't even need to say that the movement doesn't endorse their views nor does it really even want them around. As far as "Islamist pigs" in the Middle East are concerned, I'd say their aims are far more in line with those of the Tea Party than OWS, considering both groups want to dismantle of the existing secular authority and impose religious law (Biblical law in America's case, sharia law in the Middle East's.)

 

How many times am I going to have to say this: the Tea Party is NOT a legitimate grass-roots movement in its current form, and has essentially been converted from an expression of populist anger similar to OWS to a new mouthpiece for the rightmost fringe of the Republican Party. I don't necessarily agree with some of the more interesting rhetoric coming out of the fringes of OWS, but the core message of the movement is far more constructive and far better for the country than that of the Tea Party.

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Here's the thing; I went back to NYC for the weekend and swung by Zucotti Park, and I was rather amazed by what I saw. The protesters down there seem to have settled into a daily routine, including passing out their own self-published newspaper. They're pretty much all nonviolent and nonconfrontational, and the vast majority of the people who are there are either ordinary people who lost their jobs and/or homes, kids who got out of college but can't find a job due to the economy, and a few kids who wound up dropping out of college because there was no way in hell they'd be able to pay off four years of student loans.

 

As for the allegations of drunkenness, drugs, and exhibitionism, I call bullshit. It was the middle of the weekend and there was pretty much no alcohol in sight and I couldn't even smell any weed. There was some tobacco, but I think we can all agree that doesn't matter. Finally, the only "exhibitionism" going on was one woman with her shirt pulled down a little far in this pose: http://picturinghistory.gc.cuny.edu/item.php?item_id=180

 

Finally, as far as overthrowing the government and communism/socialism is concerned, I call bullshit once again. There's always a bunch like that hanging onto the fringes of any movement calling for change and I shouldn't even need to say that the movement doesn't endorse their views nor does it really even want them around. As far as "Islamist pigs" in the Middle East are concerned, I'd say their aims are far more in line with those of the Tea Party than OWS, considering both groups want to dismantle of the existing secular authority and impose religious law (Biblical law in America's case, sharia law in the Middle East's.)

 

How many times am I going to have to say this: the Tea Party is NOT a legitimate grass-roots movement in its current form, and has essentially been converted from an expression of populist anger similar to OWS to a new mouthpiece for the rightmost fringe of the Republican Party. I don't necessarily agree with some of the more interesting rhetoric coming out of the fringes of OWS, but the core message of the movement is far more constructive and far better for the country than that of the Tea Party.

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