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Let's see:

 

(J) runs in two sections: Broadway Junction to Jamaica Center and Marcy Av to 95 st (on the R line). This is to give commuters access to (A) trains at Jay st.

(Z) suspended

(M) runs in two sections: Forest Hills to Marcy AV (assuming trains are allowed to terminate there) and from Metropolitan Av to Myrtle Av). If trains can't go into Marcy or Myrtle, then Forest Hills to Essex st and Metropolitan to Central.

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NEXT: An outage in Manhattan has made it so no trains can run over the Manhattan bridge. DeKalb is affected. Only 15TPH can run through the station in each direction. NO MORE!

 

 

(B) No service b/w West 4 Street & Brooklyn.

(D) No service b/w West 4 Street & Times Square-42 Street via Bway Local - Tunnel, with 5 TPH. Extra trains run b/w 9 Avenue & Coney Island.

(N) No service b/w Queens & Atlantic Avenue-Barclays Center.

(Q) Via Tunnel, with 5 TPH. All trains run to Astoria-Ditmars Blvd, with extra trains running b/w Queens & 57 Street-7 Avenue and Prospect Park & Coney Island.

(R) 5 TPH only. Extra trains run b/w 57 Street-7 Avenue & Queens.

 

(G) Select trains are extended to Forest Hills-71 Avenue to replace (R) service.

 

LIST:

Broadway Express: (Q)

Broadway Local: (D)(R)

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Next scenario: A roflcopter (http://roflcopter.net/) has crashed into the Broadway El, reroute (J), (M) and (Z) service b/w Marcy Avenue and Broadway Junction.

 

 

The planned (P) line (search on Wikipedia) is implemented, running from Jamaica Center to Essex Street, then turning there to Broad Street.

(J) Via Chrystie St Cut/8 Avenue Express to Inwood-207 Street.

(Z) Via Chrystie St Cut/8 Avenue Express/Concourse Express (both directions) to 205 Street & Bedford Park Blvd.

(M) Via Fulton Street Express to Lefferts Blvd (I heard they had announcements for that... :rolleyes: )

 

All trains override the size limit and scratch the tunnel, making the whole Chrystie Street Connection to go tumbling down..... :unsure:

 

(E) trains run 59th Street, run Broadway local and terminate at Whitehall. (N) trains run Broadway express. (Q) trains terminate at 57th Street.

(M) trains run via 63rd Street.

 

Agreed?

 

 

Nope, I don't agree. Sorry... :rolleyes: .

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The planned (P) line (search on Wikipedia) is implemented, running from Jamaica Center to Essex Street, then turning there to Broad Street.

 

(P) TRAIN FOWM on Wikipedia:
P (short for Penn Station) was planned for a nonstop between Sutphin Boulevard – Archer Ave (at theLIRR's Jamaica station) and 34th Street – Penn Station, continuing locally to 168th Street, via the BMT Archer Avenue Line, BMT Jamaica Line, Chrystie Street Connection, IND Sixth Avenue Line and IND Eighth Avenue Line (switching to the latter at West Fourth Street) in the 1990s. This would have been used during a threatened Amtrak strike that would have prevented LIRR trains from entering Penn Station.
:P

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unused_New_York_City_Subway_service_labels

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(1) trains run from 242nd to 14th Street.

(2) trains run in two sections, 241st to TSQ and Atlantic Avenue to Flatbush.

(3) service suspended. All trains in Manhattan converted to (2) or (1) trains, all trains in Brooklyn converted to (4) trains, extra trains sent to Livonia Yard.

(4) trains run in two sections, Woodlawn to Grand Central and New Lots to Atlantic Avenue (Local in Brooklyn).

(5) trains run from East 180th to Dyre Avenue.

(6) trains run from 125th to Pelham Bay Park.

 

Extra trains start to stack west of Nevins Street.

Extra 7th Avenue trains stack south of 14th Street on the local tracks, on express, south of TSQ.

Extra Lex trains stack south of 42nd Street.

 

Now someone do BMT/IND!

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NO.

 

NEXT: because of a fire, the 53 St tunnel is unusable between Lexington Av/53 St and Court Sq-23 St. Try to maintain as many TPH as possible between Manhattan and Queens. NO FOWMING WHATSOEVER :lol: (TSS realizes that he just opened up a can of worms with that statement)

 

 

(E) Via 6th Avenue Local - 63 Street.

(M) Via 63 Street.

 

Select (E)(M) trains run to/from Lexington Avenue-53 Street ((E) Via 8th Avenue) & 23 Street-Court Square.

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I demand a pin on this thread.

Oh, and by the way, manhattan flooded south of canal street.

 

 

I'll be glad to do it!

 

(1) No service b/w 14 Street & South Ferry, via 7th Avenue Express (south of Times Sq-42 Street)

(2) No service b/w 14 Street & Nevins Street.

(3) Suspended. Use (1)(2)(4).

(4) No service b/w 14 Street-Union Square (northbound via local south of Grand Central) & Borough Hall

(5) No service b/w East 180 Street & Brooklyn.

(6) No service b/w 14 Street-Union Square (southbound via express south of Grand Central)

 

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6th & 8th Avenue Line Terminals:

14 Street: (E) via 8 Ave Express.

Broadway-Laffayette: (A)(C) via 8 Ave Local, (B)

Delancy Street: (D)(F)

 

(J) No service b/w Essex Street & Broad Street.

(N) No service b/w Times Square-42 Street & Atlantic Avenue-Barclays Center.

(Q) No service b/w Queens & Court Street.

(R) No service b/w 34 Street-Herald Square & Court Street.

(Z) No service b/w Essex Street & Broad Street.

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My replies in teal blue:

I'll be glad to do it!

 

(1) No service b/w 14 Street & South Ferry, via 7th Avenue Express (south of Times Sq-42 Street)

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(2) No service b/w 14 Street & Nevins Street.

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(3) Suspended. Use (1)(2)(4).

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What would you do with the 3 trains that are on the tracks? They can't disappear. I'd terminate them at 42 St.

(4) No service b/w 14 Street-Union Square (northbound via local south of Grand Central) & Borough Hall

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The switches don't exist, according to the track maps.

(5) No service b/w East 180 Street & Brooklyn.

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What would you do with the 5 trains that are already in service?

(6) No service b/w 14 Street-Union Square (southbound via express south of Grand Central)

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Once again, the switches don't exist.

 

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6th & 8th Avenue Line Terminals:

14 Street: (E) via 8 Ave Express.

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Broadway-Laffayette: (A)(C) via 8 Ave Local, (B)

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Not possible for the A / C; only the B.

Delancy Street: (D)(F)

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That's smart. It provides a connection to the (J)(Z).

 

(J) No service b/w Essex Street & Broad Street.

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(N) No service b/w Times Square-42 Street & Atlantic Avenue-Barclays Center.

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This would interfere with (R) trains terminating at 34 St. Both (N) and (R) trains should terminate at the same place for that reason, whether it's 42 St or 34 St.

(Q) No service b/w Queens & Court Street.

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(R) No service b/w 34 Street-Herald Square & Court Street.

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(Z) No service b/w Essex Street & Broad Street.

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(3): Changed into (1) or (2) trains: Trains terminate at 14 Street or Times Square-42 Street.

(4)(6): Trains use the switches above 42 Street to enter the northbound express track to run express to 14 Street, where it switches tracks using the switches south of 14 Street, using the northbound local tracks to come back.

(5): Changed into (4) or (6) trains: Trains terminate at Grand Central-42 Street.

(A)(B)(C)(D)(E)(F): I'll change it

(B): Changed into 6 TPH.

14 Street: (E) (On Express tracks)

Broadway-Laffayette St: (B)(D)(F)

Delancy Street: (A)(C) (Via 8 Ave Local)

(N)(R): Sorry, I wasn't familar with the switches around there. All trains shall terminate @ 34 Street-Herald Square.

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The City Hall Loop is impassable, reroute (6) trains - no more than 30tph per track.

 

 

(5) No service b/w East 180 Street.

(6) Extended to Bowling Green with 15 tph.

 

EDIT: I realized the (2)(3)(5) can't run in the same track, even though that happened in a G.O. Trying to be realistic.

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The City Hall Loop is impassable, reroute (6) trains - no more than 30tph per track.

 

 

Some (5) trains run 7th Avenue. There is 8tph on 7th Avenue and 7 tph on Lex for the (5). (6) trains run 15tph and turn around on the inner loop after Bowling Green. All Lex (5) trains run to Brooklyn. (4) trains run 8tph.

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Since there hasn't been a scenario posted in a while,

 

NEXT

The express tracks are impassable at 23 St on the 6 and 7 Av lines. Also impassable is the connection from the 60 St tunnel to Queens Plaza, in both directions.

 

Affected: (2)(3)(B)(D)(R), and anything else that's necessary

 

 

An older post

(2) trains run via Lexington Ave, 7tph, (5) is 8 tph.

(3) trains run local from 34th Street to 14th Street.

(B) trains run in two sections, Brighton Beach to W4, and 34th Street to 145th/Bedford Park Blvd.

(D) trains run local.

(M) trains run in two sections, 71st Avenue to 34th Street and Broad Street to Metropolitan Ave.

(R) trains run via 63rd Street.

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NEXT: because of a fire, the 53 St tunnel is unusable between Lexington Av/53 St and Court Sq-23 St. Try to maintain as many TPH as possible between Manhattan and Queens. NO FOWMING WHATSOEVER :lol: (TSS realizes that he just opened up a can of worms with that statement)

 

Phase One (While the lower level of the 63 St tunnel is being finished, there are 2 levels 1 build to subway, 1 for LIRR)

(A) Local between 59th-Columbus and High Street, Only 207-Broad Channel, For Ozone Park, take the (C), for Rockaway Park take the Shuttle train

(B) No Service, Take (E)(F)(D)(Q)(M)

(C) Extended to Ozone Park

(D) Local in Bronx, 8th Ave Exp, 4th Ave Lcl, West End Lcl,

(E) Rerouted to 6th Ave, Jamaica-Hoyt Schormhorn via Fulton Bklyn, 6th Ave Local Manhatan

(F) Express in Manhattan, Skips East Broadway, Delancy Downtown, Skips 63-Lex and 57th St Uptown

(G) Extended to Forest Hills Full Time

(L) Some Trains Short-Turn at Lorimer St

(M) Runs Brighton Beach-Broad St-Metropolitan Ave

(N) Express in Manhattan

(Q) Runs to Queens Terminates at 179-Jamaica

(R) Runs full service 24/7

(S) Far Rockaway- Runs Mott Ave-Broad-67

(S) 63 St- Created, Connects 57-7th ave and 72st-2nd ave

(S) 53 St- Created, Connects 59th Columbus, 7th Ave , 5th Ave-53, and Lex-53

(S) Queens Blvd Connects Court Sq-Queens Plaza-Roosevelt-Forest Hills-Jamaica-179

(W)-Reinstated

 

Phase 2:

All changes Removed

B, E Run 6th Ave EXP

M, F Run 6th Ave Local

G Runs to Forest Hills

D Runs via 8th Ave LcL

F Runs Express Rush Hours

B No Service Rush Hours

 

S 53 St, Connects 59th Columbus, 7th Ave , 5th Ave-53, and Lex-53

S Queens Blvd Connects Court Sq-Queens Plaza-Roosevelt-Forest Hills-Jamaica-179

E (M Run Via 63 St

R Runs Full Time

 

Scenario: West 4th Street Is impassible on the Lower Level, and Because of a road collaspe, the region south 100ft of West 4th St, A, C, E trains can not pass between W4, and Spring Street. And, Queensboro Plaza has collasped, and Because of the Staten Island Boats Crashing a pier, so that there is only one track for use at South Ferry, South Ferry -Whitehall, AND St George Ferry Term, and Due to structual collaspe, 2, 3, 4, 5, A, C, J, Z trains can not pass Broadway-Nassau-Fulton Station. The Terminal has not been completed yet, and there are no Capital investment projects in progress.

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Phase One (While the lower level of the 63 St tunnel is being finished, there are 2 levels 1 build to subway, 1 for LIRR)

(A) Local between 59th-Columbus and High Street, Only 207-Broad Channel, For Ozone Park, take the (C), for Rockaway Park take the Shuttle train

(B) No Service, Take (E)(F)(D)(Q)(M)

(C) Extended to Ozone Park

(D) Local in Bronx, 8th Ave Exp, 4th Ave Lcl, West End Lcl,

(E) Rerouted to 6th Ave, Jamaica-Hoyt Schormhorn via Fulton Bklyn, 6th Ave Local Manhatan

(F) Express in Manhattan, Skips East Broadway, Delancy Downtown, Skips 63-Lex and 57th St Uptown

(G) Extended to Forest Hills Full Time

(L) Some Trains Short-Turn at Lorimer St

(M) Runs Brighton Beach-Broad St-Metropolitan Ave

(N) Express in Manhattan

(Q) Runs to Queens Terminates at 179-Jamaica

(R) Runs full service 24/7

(S) Far Rockaway- Runs Mott Ave-Broad-67

(S) 63 St- Created, Connects 57-7th ave and 72st-2nd ave

(S) 53 St- Created, Connects 59th Columbus, 7th Ave , 5th Ave-53, and Lex-53

(S) Queens Blvd Connects Court Sq-Queens Plaza-Roosevelt-Forest Hills-Jamaica-179

(W)-Reinstated

 

Phase 2:

All changes Removed

B, E Run 6th Ave EXP

M, F Run 6th Ave Local

G Runs to Forest Hills

D Runs via 8th Ave LcL

F Runs Express Rush Hours

B No Service Rush Hours

 

S 53 St, Connects 59th Columbus, 7th Ave , 5th Ave-53, and Lex-53

S Queens Blvd Connects Court Sq-Queens Plaza-Roosevelt-Forest Hills-Jamaica-179

E (M Run Via 63 St

R Runs Full Time

 

Scenario: West 4th Street Is impassible on the Lower Level, and Because of a road collaspe, the region south 100ft of West 4th St, A, C, E trains can not pass between W4, and Spring Street. And, Queensboro Plaza has collasped, and Because of the Staten Island Boats Crashing a pier, so that there is only one track for use at South Ferry, South Ferry -Whitehall, AND St George Ferry Term, and Due to structual collaspe, 2, 3, 4, 5, A, C, J, Z trains can not pass Broadway-Nassau-Fulton Station. The Terminal has not been completed yet, and there are no Capital investment projects in progress.

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There's no "FOWM" here at all.

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Scenario: West 4th Street Is impassible on the Lower Level, and Because of a road collaspe, the region south 100ft of West 4th St, A, C, E trains can not pass between W4, and Spring Street. And, Queensboro Plaza has collasped, and Because of the Staten Island Boats Crashing a pier, so that there is only one track for use at South Ferry, South Ferry -Whitehall, AND St George Ferry Term, and Due to structual collaspe, 2, 3, 4, 5, A, C, J, Z trains can not pass Broadway-Nassau-Fulton Station. The Terminal has not been completed yet, and there are no Capital investment projects in progress.

 

 

(A) No service b/w 14 Street & High Street, via 8 Av Local.

(B)(D) No service b/w 34 Street-Herald Square & Times Square-42 Street, via Broadway Express.

(C) No service b/w Manhattan & High Street.

(E) No service b/w 14 Street & World Trade Center.

(F) No service b/w 34 Street-Herald Square & Delancy Street. Select trains run via Crosstown.

(M) No service b/w 34 Street-Herald Square & Essex Street.

 

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(2)(3) No service b/w Chambers Street & Wall Street.

(4)(5) No service b/w Brooklyn Bridge-City Hall & Wall Street.

(J)(Z) No service b/w Chambers Street & Broad Street.

 

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(1) Select trains run via South Ferry Loop. Other trains terminate at Rector Street.

(Q) Via Broadway Local.

(R) Uses the middle track @ Whitehall Street.

 

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(Q) No service b/w Lexington Avenue-59 Street & Queens. Trains layup using the switch before the tunnel, in Queens.

(7) No service b/w 45 Street & 33 Street.

 

I don't get now Ferry crashes only let ONE track open at BOTH stations.

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