TrainFanInfinity Posted August 28, 2012 Share #2201 Posted August 28, 2012 (edited) NEXT: due to switch replacement, the 6 Av express tracks are unusable between 42 St and 34 St. Runs in two sections: Between The Bronx & World Trade Center, via 8 Ave Local. Between Times Square-42 Street & Brooklyn, via Broadway Express. Via 8 Ave Express. Edited August 28, 2012 by TrainFanInfinity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted August 28, 2012 Share #2202 Posted August 28, 2012 No service b/w World Trade Center & Times Square-42 Street, via 8 Ave Express - Broadway Express. Can you please say this in a less confusing way? IMO in the context of this thread, explaining specifically where the trains do run is clearer than "no trains between ____ and ____". 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrainFanInfinity Posted August 28, 2012 Share #2203 Posted August 28, 2012 (edited) Can you please say this in a less confusing way? IMO in the context of this thread, explaining specifically where the trains do run is clearer than "no trains between ____ and ____". Okay! Fixed. Edited August 28, 2012 by TrainFanInfinity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooklyn Posted August 28, 2012 Share #2204 Posted August 28, 2012 (edited) No service b/w East 180 Street & Burnside Avenue or 149 Street. Ever heard of TRANSFERS? Yes I have. And they are still going to have a long ride home. NEXT: due to switch replacement, the 6 Av express tracks are unusable between 42 St and 34 St. along line until West 4th St and along line also until W 4th st or just simply have the run local with the until West 4th. Edited August 28, 2012 by Brooklyn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrainFanInfinity Posted August 28, 2012 Share #2205 Posted August 28, 2012 (edited) along line until West 4th St and along line also until W 4th st Not possible, look at a track map. Edited August 28, 2012 by TrainFanInfinity 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted August 28, 2012 Share #2206 Posted August 28, 2012 NEXT: due to switch replacement, the 6 Av express tracks are unusable between 42 St and 34 St. Two solutions: 1. Assuming the switch directly after 42nd Street can be used: and : Via local, W. 4th Street-34th Street. : No change. : Northbound trains in Brooklyn turn at Essex Street, southbound trains in Queens turn at Court Square. Any trains in Manhattan continue on their regular route. 2. Assuming the switch can not be used: / : 8 trains via 8th Avenue Local. : No service b/w Prospect Park and the Bronx for other trains. : No service b/w 34th Street-Penn Station or 59th Street and West 4th Street-6th Avenue. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted August 28, 2012 Share #2207 Posted August 28, 2012 (edited) NEXT: due to switch replacement, the 6 Av express tracks are unusable between 42 St and 34 St. Trains run in two sections: ...............Bronx to 2 Av, via CPW Local and 8 Av Local ...............West 4 St to Brooklyn Trains run express between 145 and Canal St. No trains between Broad St and 71 Av. The last stop on some northbound trains is 57 St. Additional service (using cars) runs between 71 Av and Whitehall St. NEXT 47 St/Rock Ctr is impassable uptown. Rule: No services can be suspended, cut back, or split in two sections. *Only one service can be suspended. Edited August 28, 2012 by NX Express 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooklyn Posted August 28, 2012 Share #2208 Posted August 28, 2012 Not possible, look at a track map. I see. You are correct. Of course the MTA isn't going to make it easy. You would think they would have crossover tracks at Bway Lafayette SB.... Oh well: runs in two sections: 205th st to 2nd AV and from Bway Lafayette to Coney Island. Passengers would simply cross the platform at BWAY Lafayette to continue their ride. is suspended. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrainFanInfinity Posted August 28, 2012 Share #2209 Posted August 28, 2012 (edited) NEXT 47 St/Rock Ctr is impassable uptown. Rule: No services can be suspended, cut back, or split in two sections. Norwood-205 Street to World Trade Center, via Concourse Local, CPW Local, 8 Ave Local. 57 Street-7 Avenue to Coney Island-Stillwell Avenue via Broadway Express, Manhattan Bridge, 4th Avenue Express, West End Line. Via 53 Street - 8 Avenue Local. Edited August 28, 2012 by TrainFanInfinity 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted August 28, 2012 Share #2210 Posted August 28, 2012 Via 53 Street - 8 Avenue Local. That doesn't work. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Express Posted August 28, 2012 Share #2211 Posted August 28, 2012 (edited) That doesn't work. Unless the are altered. 8 Av Express, or suspend the and run the 8 Av Express. Send the to Chambers St/Broad St. Suspend the , or run it as a shuttle between 2 Av and Bryant Park. 8 Av Express: 8 Av Local: Edited August 28, 2012 by Brighton Express 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted August 28, 2012 Share #2212 Posted August 28, 2012 Norwood-205 Street to World Trade Center, via Concourse Local, CPW Local, 8 Ave Local. 57 Street-7 Avenue to Coney Island-Stillwell Avenue via Broadway Express, Manhattan Bridge, 4th Avenue Express, West End Line. Via 53 Street - 8 Avenue Local. That's not allowed - no services can be cut back. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted August 28, 2012 Share #2213 Posted August 28, 2012 (edited) Trains run in two sections: ...............Bronx to 2 Av, via CPW Local and 8 Av Local ...............West 4 St to Brooklyn Trains run express between 145 and Canal St. No trains between Broad St and 71 Av. The last stop on some northbound trains is 57 St. Additional service (using cars) runs between 71 Av and Whitehall St. NEXT 47 St/Rock Ctr is impassable uptown. Rule: No services can be suspended, cut back, or split in two sections. *Only one service can be suspended. : All trains operate local north of 145th St. : Service suspended. : Trains rerouted over to Norwood-205th St. : No trains between 34th St-Herald Sq & 205th St. : No trains between 21st St-Queensbridge & Coney Island. : Service extended via line to/from Coney Island. : Manhattan-bound trains run via line from West 4th St to 5th Av-53rd St & West 4th St in both direction. During this time, all service extended via line to/from Jamaica-179th St. : Extended to 21st St-Queensbridge via line. Free shuttle buses operate between Roosevelt Island and 21st St-Queensbridge. Free shuttle buses operate along 6th and 5th Av between 5th Av-59th St & West 4th St. During this time, NYC Horse Carriage are not allowed to pickup on 60th-59th Sts between 5th & 6th Avs. Edited August 28, 2012 by FamousNYLover 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FamousNYLover Posted August 28, 2012 Share #2214 Posted August 28, 2012 (edited) Due to bomb threat at Empire State Building, any subways or trains including LIRR, Amtrak and NJ Transit cannot access 34th St, Penn Station or PATH 33rd St Station. Also in addition, another bomb threat bring closure on 59th St between Columbus Circle and 5th Av/59th St, which bring closure of subway stations at 59th St-Columbus Circle, 5th Av-59th St. Trains are not allowed to stop on 59th St-Columbus Circle. Trains affected: 1, 2, 3, A, B, C, D, E, F, M, N, Q, R. Central Park West between 66th St & Columbus Circle Broadway between Columbus Av-65th St & 57th St. 59th St betweeen Columbus Av & Madison Av. 5th Av from 65th to 57th Sts. 6th-7th Avs between 59th St & 57th Sts. 7th,-5th Avs between 39th & 27th Sts. 6th-8th Avs between 28th & 40th Sts. All cross streets between Madison Av & 9th Av are closed. Bonus #1: Reroute PATH, LIRR, NJT, Amtrak. Bonus #2: Reroute M1, M2, M3, M4, M5, M7, M10, M20, M34/M34A SBS, M104 and all Express Buses. Street closured: Edited August 28, 2012 by FamousNYLover 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TheSubwayStation Posted August 28, 2012 Share #2215 Posted August 28, 2012 Due to bomb threat at Empire State Building, any subways or trains including LIRR, Amtrak and NJ Transit cannot access 34th St, Penn Station or PATH 33rd St Station. Also in addition, another bomb threat bring closure on 59th St between Columbus Circle and 5th Av/59th St, which bring closure of subway stations at 59th St-Columbus Circle, 5th Av-59th St. Trains are not allowed to stop on 59th St-Columbus Circle. Trains affected: 1, 2, 3, A, B, C, D, E, F, M, N, Q, R Central Park West between 66th St & Columbus Circle Broadway between Columbus Av-65th St & 57th St. 59th St betweeen Columbus Av & Madison Av. 5th Av from 65th to 57th Sts. 6th-7th Avs between 59th St & 57th Sts. 7th, 5th Avs between 39th & 27th Sts. 6th and 8th Avs between 28th & 40th Sts. All cross streets between Madison Av & 9th Av are closed. Bonus #1: Reroute PATH, LIRR, NJT, Amtrak. Bonus #2: Reroute M1, M2, M3, M4, M5, M7, M10, M20, M34/M34A SBS, M104 and all Express Buses. Street closured: 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted August 28, 2012 Share #2216 Posted August 28, 2012 If you don't want to solve that (becuase you have a life): Jay Street Station is closed. No trains can pass through, but all switches can be used. Reroute: , , , 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokkemon Posted August 28, 2012 Share #2217 Posted August 28, 2012 Due to bomb threat at Empire State Building, any subways or trains including LIRR, Amtrak and NJ Transit cannot access 34th St, Penn Station or PATH 33rd St Station. Also in addition, another bomb threat bring closure on 59th St between Columbus Circle and 5th Av/59th St, which bring closure of subway stations at 59th St-Columbus Circle, 5th Av-59th St. Trains are not allowed to stop on 59th St-Columbus Circle. Trains affected: 1, 2, 3, A, B, C, D, E, F, M, N, Q, R. Central Park West between 66th St & Columbus Circle Broadway between Columbus Av-65th St & 57th St. 59th St betweeen Columbus Av & Madison Av. 5th Av from 65th to 57th Sts. 6th-7th Avs between 59th St & 57th Sts. 7th,-5th Avs between 39th & 27th Sts. 6th-8th Avs between 28th & 40th Sts. All cross streets between Madison Av & 9th Av are closed. Bonus #1: Reroute PATH, LIRR, NJT, Amtrak. Bonus #2: Reroute M1, M2, M3, M4, M5, M7, M10, M20, M34/M34A SBS, M104 and all Express Buses. Street closured: If this actually happened the Subway would shut down like on 9/11. This is just too much of a problem to warrant a large-scale change of service. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted August 28, 2012 Share #2218 Posted August 28, 2012 via bridge No trains between Hoyt-Schermerhorn and Chambers St. Customers advised to take the at Hoyt St to 4 Av/9 St for the . Suspended No trains between York St and Bedford-Nostrand, via Bergen St. Select southbound trains run via the line to Atlantic Av/Barclays, then via the to 36th St, then terminate at 9 Av. Local in Brooklyn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TrainFanInfinity Posted August 28, 2012 Share #2219 Posted August 28, 2012 (edited) If you don't want to solve that (becuase you have a life): Jay Street Station is closed. No trains can pass through, but all switches can be used. Reroute: , , , No service b/w High Street & Nostrand Avenue. No service b/w York Street & Bergen Street. Via Bridge, select SB trains run to Whitehall St or Court St. Single tracked shuttles run b/w Nostrand Avenue & Hoyt-Schermerhorn Streets. Edited August 28, 2012 by TrainFanInfinity 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted August 28, 2012 Share #2220 Posted August 28, 2012 Single tracked shuttles run b/w Nostrand Avenue & Hoyt-Schermerhorn Streets. The can serve Hoyt St if it runs local to there, reverses, wrong-rails to the Lafayette Av spur, switches to the eastbound express track there, and runs express from there to Utica Av. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooklyn Posted August 28, 2012 Share #2221 Posted August 28, 2012 (edited) If you don't want to solve that (becuase you have a life): Jay Street Station is closed. No trains can pass through, but all switches can be used. Reroute: , , , Darn. I wouldn't want to leave Lower Manhattan and Downtown Brooklyn without service from Canal to Court st, so I would have all trains terminate at Court st--there are crossover tracks. The would make all local stops Brooklyn, and so would the --this would give 6th av riders access to Park Slope at 4th AV. There would be a shuttle to Bay Ridge at 36th st. Fulton st will be a mess....but here goes: (A)from Queens to Hoyt st and 207 to High St, all local. is suspended. Riders from Queens will be strongly urged to transfer at Broadway Junction for the trains (LORD KNOWS NOT THE ) and that line will have increased service. There will be peak direction express service from the Junction to Essex st on the middle track. Call it the J diamond. Skip stop service will be suspended, the J will make all stops. A free out of station transfer will be given to the and trains at Hoyt st. Manhattan riders who need Queens (and even Brooklyn east of Nostrand Av) will be strongly urged to take the train to Broadway Junction and transfer. Broadway Junction (already very busy) will be extremely busy. The would run from 179th st to York st. The would completely take over Culver. I would actually extend it to 71st Continental just in case some Queens riders wanted Culver. This is also to give Culver riders access to QB trains. They would get 8 cars and would run 15-18 TPH during Rush Hours. The will be suspended in Manhattan and Queens to make room for the . Edited August 28, 2012 by Brooklyn 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted August 29, 2012 Share #2222 Posted August 29, 2012 (edited) OK, I think it's about time some serious rules are laid down for this thread. 1. Only 3 scenarios can be posted within a 24 hour period. That's more than enough, and it prevents people from spamming scenarios for a high post count. 2. When solving a scenario, you must account for every train involved. Use calculated TPH (Trains Per Hour) levels and schedules for help. Also, make reroute that follow the track layout of the subway. For unoffical, but generally accurate track maps: http://nycsubway.org...bway_Track_Maps 3. Try to make the best reroute possible. Think of these situations as real. Try not to make reroutes that would confuse the average rider, but also try to provide the best service to every area. Avoid shuttle buses, as they can be scarce. Try to provide options from other lines. (For example, if 8th Avenue is shut down, try increasing service on the , , and .) 4. In situations where you have to add TPH to line, consider the rule than no track can handle more than 30 TPH at once. Also, do not simply say to put more trains on the line. There isn't enough equipment for that. Also, for rating other members' solutions: 1. Be nice. Don't call them a foamer unreasonably. 2. Rather than just saying every single one of their solutions is bad and leaving it there, offer alternatives. 3. If they did a good job, compliment them! 4. Discusion is encouraged! It helps to enrichen this thread. FInally, when creating scenarios: 1. Be realistic. Don't say things like "All of Manhattan is exploded." That's just unrealistic and outlandish. 2. Specify whether something is to be short or long term. It helps in solving. 3. Finally, specify time of day. This is not optional, as TPH varies through the day/week. Most important, have fun! NOTE: Foaming is frowned upon, as it increases the chances of this thread to get locked and it just makes you look bad. Try to stay away from it. Edited August 29, 2012 by Threxx 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gorgor Posted August 29, 2012 Share #2223 Posted August 29, 2012 1. Only 3 scenarios can be posted within a 24 hour period. That's more than enough, and it prevents people from spamming scenarios for a high post count. There's people who care about high post count? I honestly don't even know what my post count is. And really, we should just have someone post a scenario, then another person solves it and posts their own if they want to. Turning this thread into a discussion sort of ruined it and I'm not really enjoying this thread any more. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
NX Express Posted August 29, 2012 Share #2224 Posted August 29, 2012 There's people who care about high post count? I honestly don't even know what my post count is. And really, we should just have someone post a scenario, then another person solves it and posts their own if they want to. Turning this thread into a discussion sort of ruined it and I'm not really enjoying this thread any more. You can always just solve an older scenario if you want to restart the thread again. Some discussion doesn't hurt, although I agree that it was a bit off topic. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Tokkemon Posted August 29, 2012 Share #2225 Posted August 29, 2012 Okay here's one: All of Manhattan Exploded. Reroute every train via the line to keep service intact. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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