Broadway Local Posted November 25, 2013 Share #1 Posted November 25, 2013 Just a contribution..... During the past days, I was hoping to stay in a station for at least three hours to record the earliness and lateness of the trains' schedule in a Sunday. So today I've recorded it at 36th Street station in Brooklyn where the southbound , and train stops. This job was very tough because, there's a lot to write, no bathroom breaks, limit the amount of water or any drink you drink, no flat surface to write on (but the wall. I used my folder for a flat surface), and you're standing for a long period of time. Lets see what I've got. I may have some errors on my math, but I hope I don't... Bensonhurst-Bay Parkway bound D Train! Due to Fastrack, there's no D train service between Bay Pkwy and Stillwell Av stations. Scheduled Time / Arrival Time (Train / Car #s) , Status. - 2:09pm / 2:10pm (R68 #2692-2695, #2680-2683) , 1 minute late with R train across the platform. - 2:19pm / 2:19pm (R68 #2543-2540, #2528-2531) , ON-TIME! - 2:29pm / 2:26pm (R68 #2700-2703, #2654-2657) , 3 minutes early, and left while the R train arrived. - 2:39pm / 2:37pm (R68 / I MESSED UP ON CAR NUMBERS), 2 minutes early. - 2:49pm / 2:53pm (R68 #2623-2620, #2592-2595) , 3 minutes late. - 2:59pm / 3:02pm (R68 #2763-2760, #2563-2560) , 3 minutes late. The 3:02pm N Train did not arrive yet. - 3:09pm / 3:11pm (R68 #2508-2511, #2724-2727) , 2 minutes late. - 3:19pm / 3:28pm (R68 #2627-2624, #2731-2728) , 9 Minutes late with a lot of people leaving and entering the train. Train wasn't so crowded. - 3:29pm / 3:30pm (R68 #2759-2756, #2633-2630) , 1 minute late. Train was almost empty, and left before the R train arrived. - 3:39pm / 3:42pm (R68 #2639-2636, #2739-2736) , 3 minutes late with R train across the platform. - 3:49pm / 3:55pm (R68 #2600-2603, #2672-2675) , 6 minutes late with another D train directly behind. - 3:59pm / 3:57pm (R68 #2524-2527, #2651-2648) , 2 minutes early. - 4:09pm / 4:13pm (R68 #2544-2547, #2751-2748) , 4 minutes late with R train across the platform. The 4:12pm N train was directly behind. - 4:19pm / 4:19pm (R68 #2711-2708, #2616-2619) , ON-TIME! - 4:29pm / 4:33pm (R68 #2640-2643, #2604-2607) , 4 minutes late with the first car crowded. - 4:39pm / 4:38pm (R68 #2632-2637, #2671-2668) , 1 minute early and left while the R train arrived. - 4:49pm / 4:48pm (R68 #2767-2764, #2747-2744) , 1 minute early. - 4:59pm / 5:04pm (R68 #2775-2772, #2556-2559) , 5 minutes late. Train seats were filled on all cars. - 5:09pm / 5:10pm (R68 #2752-2755, #2688-2691) , 1 minute late. - 5:19pm / 5:21pm (R68 #2716-2719, #2723-2720) , 2 minutes late with R train across the platform. The 5:12pm N train did not arrive yet. - 5:29pm / 5:27pm (R68 #2548-2551, #2514-2517) , 2 minutes early. Separation Times (Minutes): 9, 7, 11, 14, 9, 9, 17, 2, 12, 13, 2, 16, 6, 14, 5, 10, 16, 6, 11, 6 Gravesend-86th Street bound N Train! Due to Fastrack, there's no N train service at Coney Island. Scheduled Time / Arrival Time (Train / Car #s) , Status. - 2:02pm / 2:03pm (R160B #8912-8908, #9012-9008) , 1 minute late with R train across the platform. - 2:12pm / 2:12pm (R160B #8958-8962, #8942-8938) , ON-TIME! - 2:22pm / 2:21pm (R160B/R160A #9138-9142, #8683-8687) , 1 minute early. - 2:32pm / 2:34pm (R160B/R160A #8727-8723, #8702-8698) , 2 minutes late and left while the R train arrived. - 2:42pm / 2:41pm (R160B #9098-9102, #9078-9082) , 1 minute early. - 2:52pm / 3:08pm (R160B #9033-9037, #9088-9092) , 16 minutes late with a lot of people entering and leaving the train. First car was crowded. - 3:02pm / 3:14pm (R160B #8813-8817, #9118-9122) , 12 minutes late with not a lot of people entering and leaving the train. - 3:12pm / 3:20pm (R160A/R160B #8658-8662, #9162-9158) , 8 minutes late with a lot of people getting off the train. - 3:22pm / 3:24pm (R160B #9172-9168, #8762-8758) , 2 minutes late. Train was almost empty in all cars. - 3:32pm / 3:33pm (R160B #8778-8782, #8768-8772) , 1 minute late. - 3:42pm / 3:45pm (R160B #9003-9007, #9067-9063) , 3 minutes late. Conductor was sleeping a bit and woke up in 30 seconds after the train stopped at the station. - 3:52pm / 3:50pm (R160A/R160B #8682-8678, 8783-8787) , 2 minutes early and left while the R train arrived. - 4:02pm / 4:01pm (R160B #9123-9127, #9188-9192) , 1 minute early and left while the R train arrived. - 4:12pm / 4:16pm (R160B #8933-8937, #9042-9038) , 4 minutes late. More passengers left the train than entering the train. - 4:22pm / 4:22pm (R160B #9068-9072, #8892-8888) , ON-TIME! The R train was across the platform. - 4:32pm / 4:29pm (R160B #9187-9183, #8808-8812) , 4 minutes early. The R train was across the platform. - 4:42pm / 4:41pm (R160B #8912-8908, #9012-9008) , 1 minute early with the R train across the platform. - 4:52pm / 4:51pm (R160B #8958-8962, #8942-8938) , 1 minute early, and left while the R train arrived. - 5:02pm / 5:06pm (R160B #9138-9142, #8683-8687) , 4 minutes late. First two cars were crowded. - 5:12pm / 5:24pm (R160B/R160A #8727-8723, #8702-8698) , 12 minutes late. First five cars were crowded. - 5:22pm / 5:37pm (R160B #9033-9037, #9088-9092) , 15 minutes late. First three cars were crowded. - 5:32pm / 5:47pm (R160B #9098-9102, #9078-9082) , 15 minutes late. First five and last two cars were crowded. *I don't get what happened on 5:12pm to 5:47pm.* Separation Times (Minutes): 9, 9, 13, 7, 17, 6, 6, 4, 9, 12, 5, 11, 15, 6, 7, 12, 10, 15, 18, 13, 10 Bay Ridge-95th Street bound R Train! Scheduled Time / Arrival Time (Train / Car #s) , Status. - 2:02pm / 2:02pm (R160B/R160A #9228-9232, #9693-9697) , ON-TIME! There was a N train across the platform. - 2:12pm / 2:08pm (R160A/R160B #9318-9322, #9863-9867) , 4 minutes early, and was held 3 minutes for an arriving D train. - 2:22pm / 2:28pm (R160B/R160A #9207-9203, #9752-9748) , 6 minutes late, but the train wasn't crowded. A lot of people were waiting for the train though. - 2:32pm / 2:35pm (R160A/R160B #9308-9312, #9198-9202) , 3 minutes late, and was held 3 minutes for an arriving D train. - 2:42pm / 2:40pm (R160B/R160A #9932-9928, #9792-9788) , 2 minutes early, and was held 2 minutes for an arriving N train. - 2:52pm / 2:57pm (R160B #9868-9872, #9902-9898) , 5 minutes late. Train was not crowded, but a lot of people were waiting for it. - 3:02pm / 3:11pm (R160B/R160A #9842-9838, #9467-9463) , 9 minutes late, but train wasn't crowded. - 3:12pm / 3:18pm (R160A #9518-9522, #9787-9783) , 6 minutes late, but train wasn't crowded. - 3:22pm / 3:24pm (R160A #9768-9772, #9893-9897) , 2 minutes late. - 3:32pm / 3:31pm (R160A #9638-9642, #9458-9462) , 1 minute early. - 3:42pm / 3:42pm (R160A #9448-9452, #9237-9233) , ON-TIME! There was a D train across the platform. - 3:52pm / 3:52pm (R160A/R160B #9692-9688, #9913-9917) , ON-TIME! - 4:02pm / 4:02pm (R160A #9493=9497, #9918-9922) , ON-TIME! - 4:12pm / 4:13pm (R160A #9667-9663, 9682-9678) , 1 minute late with a D train across the platform. - 4:22pm / 4:22pm (R160B/R160A #9937-9933, #9418-9422) , ON-TIME with a N train across the platform. - 4:32pm / 4:27pm (R160B/R160A #9907-9903, #9402-9398) , 4 minutes early, and was held for 3 minutes for an arriving N train. - 4:42pm / 4:40pm (R160A #9743-9747, #9782-9778) , 2 minutes early with a N train across the platform. - 4:52pm / 4:54pm (R160A #9632-9628, #9432-9428) , 2 minutes late. - 5:02pm / 5:00pm (R160B/R160A #9858-9862, #9627-9623) , 2 minutes early. - 5:12pm / 5:17pm (R160B/R160A #9228-9232, #9693-9697) , 5 minutes late with most seats taken in all cars. - 5:22pm / 5:21pm (R160B #9318-9322, #9863-9867) , 1 minute early with a D train across the platform. - 5:32pm / 5:31pm (R160B/R160A #9207-9203, #9752-9748) , 1 minute early. Separation Times (Minutes): 6, 20, 7, 5, 17, 15, 14, 7, 6, 9, 11, 10, 10, 11, 9, 5, 13, 14, 6, 17, 4, 10 You can also check out my photos by clicking the link below.. http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/43463-taking-pics-while-recording-train-arrival-times-36th-street-brooklyn-and-extras/ Enjoy... Sunday November 24th, 2013. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Turbo19 Posted November 25, 2013 Share #2 Posted November 25, 2013 Still doesn't convince me to like the ... lol. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadway Local Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share #3 Posted November 25, 2013 Still doesn't convince me to like the ... lol. I'm not trying to convince you to like the , lol... I hate the too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted November 25, 2013 Share #4 Posted November 25, 2013 Using the MTA's calculation measures on your data, wait assessment results would be as follows: Line | Standard | Minor | Medium | Major 70% | 15% | 15% | 0% 71% | 19% | 9.5% | 0% 68% | 18% | 14% | 0% The MTA's official data for weekend wait assessment, rolling avg Sept 12-Aug 13 Line | Standard | Minor | Medium | Major 85.7% | 11.6% | 4.7% | 1.1% 82.7% | 9.7% | 4.4% | 1.3% 84.1% | 11.3% | 2.7% | 0.9% Keep in mind that there had the local run along CPW and took on the load in the Bronx, not to mention the Brooklyn FASTRACK. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsunflyguy Posted November 25, 2013 Share #5 Posted November 25, 2013 11/24/2013 6:20:47 PM Subway BKLYN, N & R Trains, Mechanical Problem Due to an earlier incident at Atlantic Av, N & R train service has resumed with residual delays. 11/24/2013 10:55:06 AM Subway UPDATED: BKLYN, N, Q & R trains, Smoke condition Following an earlier incident on the Manhattan Bridge, N, Q & R train service has resumed with residual delays. 11/24/2013 11:55:59 AM Subway UPDATED: BKLYN, N trains, Debris Following an earlier incident at 20 Av, N train service has resumed with residual delays. Looks like it's been a rough day for the , perhaps they weren't able to recover the schedule. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
QM1to6Ave Posted November 25, 2013 Share #6 Posted November 25, 2013 Damn that's a lot of careful record keeping! The only time I was able to always perfectly time my arrival to catch an train was when I had to catch it at Herald Square at about 7:30 am. There was always the same train with the same Russian C/R with a distinctive voice who rolled in on time every day. It was comforting to have that regularity at that time in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
j express Posted November 25, 2013 Share #7 Posted November 25, 2013 No R46 . Wow. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brooklyn Posted November 25, 2013 Share #8 Posted November 25, 2013 Thanks for the contribution.....Doesn't really surprise me about the N train at all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadway Local Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share #9 Posted November 25, 2013 Damn that's a lot of careful record keeping! The only time I was able to always perfectly time my arrival to catch an train was when I had to catch it at Herald Square at about 7:30 am. There was always the same train with the same Russian C/R with a distinctive voice who rolled in on time every day. It was comforting to have that regularity at that time in the morning. It is. When the two trains arrive at the same time, I had to write so quick, take my phone out really quick to check time, and write down car numbers too. The reason why I chose to record southbound trains is because trains are usually late. I had a choice of two Ditmars Blvd bound trains to take to school, that comes in 7:09am, or 7:15am. In neither train I still get to school at the same time since I transfer to the same Coney Island bound train. @Jsunflyguy: I was at 36th Street station at around 2pm-5:50pm. The last two service changes you put happened in the morning. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jsunflyguy Posted November 25, 2013 Share #10 Posted November 25, 2013 Yes but those trains will be out of position and probably running late for the rest of the day unless the MTA has a spare set (which I doubt) thus the incidents will knock on for the rest of the day. Also the first message indicates that a problem at Atlantic was resolved at 6:20 meaning it was happening at some point earlier, perhaps while recording. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
nu1116 Posted November 25, 2013 Share #11 Posted November 25, 2013 Thanks for your hard work. Based on your data, the average waiting times for those 3 lines are: D: 9.75 min N: 10.19 min R: 10.27 min The differences are not significant, but during weekday rush hours, I always observed the N being late while the D being early. D trains pop up back to back, with only a few people on the second trains. The next delayed N train is then full of people and ends up skipping stops along the Sea Beach... It will be interesting to conduct another measurement during weekday rush hours... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broadway Local Posted November 25, 2013 Author Share #12 Posted November 25, 2013 Thanks for your hard work. Based on your data, the average waiting times for those 3 lines are: D: 9.75 min N: 10.19 min R: 10.27 min The differences are not significant, but during weekday rush hours, I always observed the N being late while the D being early. D trains pop up back to back, with only a few people on the second trains. The next delayed N train is then full of people and ends up skipping stops along the Sea Beach... It will be interesting to conduct another measurement during weekday rush hours... Nice, you helped me find the average waiting times... I find during morning rush hours, mostly the S/B trains are late and evening rush hours, it's mostly the S/B trains are late. I take the train every morning, and it was very very crazy. My train comes in at around 7:19pm-7:28pm and at times it will make skip-stops. Almost every skip-stop I'm in train, it's always during the evening rush. (Like around 5pm) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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