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I've noticed will leaving 167 St on the (4) that the train diverges into air lol. But the gap left behind seems good enough for a 10-Car train and passenger use. Since a 4 Express isn't logical due to the missed important stops will building a station just feet from Gate 8 of Yankee Stadium help? Maybe call it 162 St-Yankee Stadium. Even though it is very close to 161 it serves a great purpose in the use of a <4> or maybe even a Jerome Av Shuttle.

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Wait, as a replacement station or as an extra stop?

 

Either way it's not going to happen. A replacement station would lose the (D) train transfer and the extra station would be redundant.

 

If anything they need to find a way/find the money to move the subway entrances closer to the stadium; I have no idea why the overflow (4) entrances and two of the (D) entrances stayed by where the old stadium was. It's not a usage issue since people still use those entrances, but it's a traffic issue since everyone that's taking a train (including Metro-North) needs to cross at least one street to get to their trains.

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That "gap" was from where one of the old elevated lines (don't remember which one exactly, I think 2nd Av el) branched off of the (4) line, and traveled through what is now Yankee Stadium, and across to Manhattan.

Old 6th and 9th ave Elevated. Later the Polo ground Shuttle until 1958/1962.

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Wait, as a replacement station or as an extra stop?

 

Either way it's not going to happen. A replacement station would lose the (D) train transfer and the extra station would be redundant.

 

If anything they need to find a way/find the money to move the subway entrances closer to the stadium; I have no idea why the overflow (4) entrances and two of the (D) entrances stayed by where the old stadium was. It's not a usage issue since people still use those entrances, but it's a traffic issue since everyone that's taking a train (including Metro-North) needs to cross at least one street to get to their trains.

Speaking of Metro-North, that station is so poorly designed.  I mean even with the elevator it's a PITA.  There's only one of them and then you have these stairs to go down once you get the elevator and cross that "bridge".  After that it's a decent walk to get the stadium.  What exactly did they rehab when the subway station was done anyway?  I know the Metro-North station is fairly recent, but the subway station was supposedly rehabbed.

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it's a traffic issue since everyone that's taking a train (including Metro-North) needs to cross at least one street to get to their trains.

Build a crossover. The Strip in Las Vegas is full of them due to the traffic and the crowds.
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But I have a question, I could never actually find the old stub of the Sedgwick Av station that was directly below a building (NOT The one under the Major Deegan) that was facing New Yankee Stadium, does anyone know where it is?

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But I have a question, I could never actually find the old stub of the Sedgwick Av station that was directly below a building (NOT The one under the Major Deegan) that was facing New Yankee Stadium, does anyone know where it is?

 

Sedgwick Ave is pretty much completely under the deegan. 

 

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Maybe you're thinking of Jerome av? That one ducked under a building. 

 

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I believe you'll find it here: 

 

https://goo.gl/maps/Sf9fYEHMwCk

 

More Info: 

http://www.columbia.edu/~brennan/abandoned/sedgwick.html

http://www.columbia.edu/~brennan/abandoned/jerome.html

http://untappedcities.com/2014/01/21/the-abandoned-sedgwick-and-jerome-anderson-avenue-subway-station-in-nyc/

http://forgotten-ny.com/1999/12/remnants-of-the-ninth-avenue-el-when-is-a-subway-not-a-subway-when-its-an-el/

http://www.nycsubway.org/wiki/The_9th_Avenue_Elevated-Polo_Grounds_Shuttle

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Yes Jerome Av was what I was talking about. There used to be a stub that extended from the current (4) structure to right before the old tennis club, but it was demolished when they rebuilt Yankee Stadium. I believe that Sedgwick Av and Jerome Av are the two remaining stations from the Polo Grounds Shuttle that still exist, as well as the tunnel in between the two stations. In case you guys haven't heard, someone broke the wall that sealed off the tunnel back in October.

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