Think $550,000 reinvested from eliminating paper schedules is going to avoid cuts think again (Potential Fall 2019 service cuts)

[Jemorie]

3 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

What they should have done was let the remain the Broadway Express and do short turn trips between 57th St and Whitehall St.

Um no. This isn't the  to Lefferts Blvd and the Rockaways, or the  to Dyre/Nereid Avenues. The  from June 2010-November 2016 should have been the full-time Broadway Local in Manhattan north of Canal Street for operational reasons instead. You gotta be simplistic. Meanwhile, the  should have been the Broadway Express for both weekdays and weekends. Overnight  100% local service via Montague remains the same as it is now. The  was already a Brighton Local from the start. Numerous times from my perspective going northbound, an  can pass a  at DeKalb Avenue, only to meet up with the same exact  again across the platform at 14th Street-Union Square due to the  switching from express to local after Canal Street and the  vice-versa. You see how ridiculous this type of service pattern really was all along? That, combined with the fact that the  ends up getting held at 34th Street-Herald Square to let that very same  go ahead of it. During rush hours, fewer  and  's could have short turned at TSQ and fewer 's at 57th St-7th Ave to give some space along the 60th Street Tubes.

Remember, the , , and  ran every 6 minutes (mathematically 10 trains an hour on each line) before as they currently still do now during the AM Rush. Those TSQ and 57th St-7th Ave short turns I mention could have been a train every 24 minutes (ex. 6:00, 6:24, 6:48, 7:12, 7:36 etc). Between TSQ and 57th St-7 Av on the express tracks have enough room for storage during middays anyway.

As we all know in general, the  can barely do anything right for the most part. Of course, however, under my proposal for the previous June 2010-November 2016, the  would have went to/from Astoria 24/7 which would have been more costly during the overnight and weekend hours.

Edited August 23, 2019 by Jemorie

[SubwayFan3000]

On 8/19/2019 at 7:57 PM, W4ST said:

And then less people will ride the subways, and then they will cut more service, and then less people will ride the subways, and then they will cut more service... I hope Cuomo is remembered as an idiot

I Hope he loses in 2022

[SubwayFan3000]

They should have balanced the Budget, i hope it doesn't repeat like it did in 2009-2010

[darkstar8983]

4 hours ago, Jemorie said:

Um no. This isn't the  to Lefferts Blvd and the Rockaways, or the  to Dyre/Nereid Avenues. The  from June 2010-November 2016 should have been the full-time Broadway Local in Manhattan north of Canal Street for operational reasons instead. You gotta be simplistic. Meanwhile, the  should have been the Broadway Express for both weekdays and weekends. Overnight  100% local service via Montague remains the same as it is now. The  was already a Brighton Local from the start. Numerous times from my perspective going northbound, an  can pass a  at DeKalb Avenue, only to meet up with the same exact  again across the platform at 14th Street-Union Square due to the  switching from express to local after Canal Street and the  vice-versa. You see how ridiculous this type of service pattern really was all along? That, combined with the fact that the  ends up getting held at 34th Street-Herald Square to let that very same  go ahead of it. During rush hours, fewer  and  's could have short turned at TSQ and fewer 's at 57th St-7th Ave to give some space along the 60th Street Tubes.

Remember, the , , and  ran every 6 minutes (mathematically 10 trains an hour on each line) before as they currently still do now during the AM Rush. Those TSQ and 57th St-7th Ave short turns I mention could have been a train every 24 minutes (ex. 6:00, 6:24, 6:48, 7:12, 7:36 etc). Between TSQ and 57th St-7 Av on the express tracks have enough room for storage during middays anyway.

As we all know in general, the  can barely do anything right for the most part. Of course, however, under my proposal for the previous June 2010-November 2016, the  would have went to/from Astoria 24/7 which would have been more costly during the overnight and weekend hours.

And on top of that, a couple of short turn  trains went out of service at 57 St-7 Av, went light to Astoria, to potential be used as a southbound train if an  was late arriving in Astoria.

[T to Dyre Avenue]

On 8/22/2019 at 4:33 PM, LaGuardia Link N Tra said:

This right here makes me wonder what if the  deinterlined the System during this era, how different would things be?

That era would have probably been the best time to try deinterlining. In fact, I do recall a lot of discussion about deinterlining on the forums in 2015-16, just before the  came back. 

On 8/23/2019 at 10:39 AM, Lawrence St said:

What they should have done was let the remain the Broadway Express and do short turn trips between 57th St and Whitehall St.

Those short turn  trips would have caused delays at 57th Street by having to switch onto the local tracks to go south to Whitehall. You also would have had to cut  frequency to accommodate the short turn s.