Bus between Red Hook and Lower Manhattan

[kingal11234]

Why is there no bus between lower Manhattan and  Red Hook Brooklyn via the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel?

[Gotham Bus Co.]

9 hours ago, kingal11234 said:

Why is there no bus between lower Manhattan and  Red Hook Brooklyn via the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel?

Is there any actual demand? Or is this a solution in search of a problem?

[kingal11234]

 I don't understand why there would not be a demand for this. It would give Red Hook residents a one seat ride to Lower Manhattan. There riders could travel to lower Manhattan in 15 minutes or less Plus you could have a bus traveling from Park Slope to South Ferry that would run down 9th street to City Hall via the Brooklyn Battery tunnel. The service could begin at Prospect Park West, travel from 9th st  to Hamilton Avenue and there the bus would travel under the BBT and terminate at City Hall. Currently  Red Hook has to rely on the very slow B57 and B61 buses to travel to downtown Brooklyn before they cant transfer to a train.

[SoSpectacular]

9 hours ago, kingal11234 said:

 I don't understand why there would not be a demand for this. It would give Red Hook residents a one seat ride to Lower Manhattan. There riders could travel to lower Manhattan in 15 minutes or less Plus you could have a bus traveling from Park Slope to South Ferry that would run down 9th street to City Hall via the Brooklyn Battery tunnel. The service could begin at Prospect Park West, travel from 9th st  to Hamilton Avenue and there the bus would travel under the BBT and terminate at City Hall. Currently  Red Hook has to rely on the very slow B57 and B61 buses to travel to downtown Brooklyn before they cant transfer to a train.

The B61 isn't slow getting to downtown, if it wasn't for the backup of traffic on Colombia/Atlantic of everyone trying to squeeze onto the BQE it's a straight shot.

Edited September 17, 2023 by SoSpectacular

[The TransitMan]

On 9/16/2023 at 3:04 AM, kingal11234 said:

Why is there no bus between lower Manhattan and  Red Hook Brooklyn via the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel?

 

On 9/17/2023 at 5:19 AM, kingal11234 said:

 I don't understand why there would not be a demand for this. It would give Red Hook residents a one seat ride to Lower Manhattan. There riders could travel to lower Manhattan in 15 minutes or less Plus you could have a bus traveling from Park Slope to South Ferry that would run down 9th street to City Hall via the Brooklyn Battery tunnel. The service could begin at Prospect Park West, travel from 9th st  to Hamilton Avenue and there the bus would travel under the BBT and terminate at City Hall. Currently  Red Hook has to rely on the very slow B57 and B61 buses to travel to downtown Brooklyn before they cant transfer to a train.

The demand may not be there because some people would prefer to use the subway (F,G - Smith-9th St and/or 4th-9th St) in that general area. As a conductor, telling people to take a bus instead of a subway...people look at me if I'm insulting them. So therefore the demand may not be there.

However, about a decade ago...maybe a bit longer, there was a proposal to extend the former B71 AND B77 to Lower Manhattan (most likely Whitehall St-South Ferry to connect with the 1, R and W along with other bus routes) via the Brooklyn-Battery Tunnel. This was when Whitehall St-South Ferry terminal was going through a makeover in anticipation of the M15 +SELECT BUS SERVICE+ ending at a NEW terminal IIFC....and the M15 local staying put.

Edited September 25, 2023 by The TransitMan

[MHV9218]

I don't think it's a bad idea. Of course with traffic on the BQE, it would be extremely difficult to schedule and plan that route and maintain consistent headways.

[Travis Mcnonald]

On 9/16/2023 at 3:04 AM, kingal11234 said:

Why is there no bus between lower Manhattan and  Red Hook Brooklyn via the Brooklyn Battery Tunnel?

Before the doomsday cuts from 2010, the MTA at one point was considering extenting the B71 bus from Cobble Hilll to Lower Manhattan, but it was rejected and the line has since been discontinued with little fanfare.