metsfan Posted March 17, 2009 Share #1 Posted March 17, 2009 It's official, the ARC project is going to be underway in a few short weeks after decades of increasing passengers and squeezed capacity, 2 new tunnels will be constructed along with tracks interlockings etc to facilitate the new tunnels and a new connection for several rail lines giving those riders a one seat ride into nyp. Break out the seltzer water and ticker tape, because this is the most important new development in the region's history since PRR electrified between NYC and philidelphia.:eek::tup: http://www.usatoday.com/news/nation/2009-03-12-nybigdig_N.htm - Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted March 17, 2009 Author Share #2 Posted March 17, 2009 ........ - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted March 17, 2009 Share #3 Posted March 17, 2009 Nice! We need those tunnels Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
R44 5278 Posted March 17, 2009 Share #4 Posted March 17, 2009 NJT should really consider connecting those new tunnels to the East River Tunnel so Amtrak can use it as well. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted March 17, 2009 Share #5 Posted March 17, 2009 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted March 17, 2009 Share #6 Posted March 17, 2009 Also this station is under 34th, between 6th and 8th. There could be many entrances, allowing for a reasonable distribution of passengers around the area. There won't be a need to hold all passengers at that small area at Penn Station. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaback9 Posted March 17, 2009 Share #7 Posted March 17, 2009 NJT should really consider connecting those new tunnels to the East River Tunnel so Amtrak can use it as well. I could not agree with you more! I believe the orignal plan called for an Amtrak connection...why they took this out I don't know. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted March 18, 2009 Author Share #8 Posted March 18, 2009 I could not agree with you more! I believe the orignal plan called for an Amtrak connection...why they took this out I don't know. Only reason i can think of is water tunnel #3, or possible connection to GCT. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaback9 Posted March 18, 2009 Share #9 Posted March 18, 2009 It has to do with the water tunnel but they have a problem with another one if they want to connect to GCT. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted March 18, 2009 Author Share #10 Posted March 18, 2009 It has to do with the water tunnel but they have a problem with another one if they want to connect to GCT. If they were going to connect with GCT, they would put bracing in the water tunnel. Since the tunnel isn't nearly ready to be completed, it's still a possibility, though unlikely (sadly). - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
drxtreme21 Posted March 18, 2009 Share #11 Posted March 18, 2009 about time almost constant delays into midtown these days from north nj:mb: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bdwy Line C/R Posted April 5, 2009 Share #12 Posted April 5, 2009 As important as ARC is, be aware that 2 new bridges are going to be built to support it. 1 will directly replace Portal Bridge(100 years old) and will be a 2 track lift or swing design at the same location. The other will link the ARC tubes w/ a new connection to NWK Penn. This will be a 3 trk high span that will bypass Secaucus Jct several mile east. This should allow Amtk to cut the run time to Nwk by 5-8 min since they won't have to compete w/ NJT for trk space over the current line and have to wait for bridge openings. Sounds like a good plan to me. :tup: (NJT) :nec: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted April 5, 2009 Author Share #13 Posted April 5, 2009 Yes, amtrak is cooperating with the alignment and interlocking and whatnot to allow full integrated ARC support. Once these 2 projects are complete, it will be seamless. On a related note, the Dock lift bridge may get a full repaint and some repairs, though i have not seen any EIS documentation to that effect, however i have heard it from various amtk and (NJT) employees that it is a "asap" goal. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaback9 Posted April 5, 2009 Share #14 Posted April 5, 2009 Yes, amtrak is cooperating with the alignment and interlocking and whatnot to allow full integrated ARC support. Once these 2 projects are complete, it will be seamless. On a related note, the Dock lift bridge may get a full repaint and some repairs, though i have not seen any EIS documentation to that effect, however i have heard it from various amtk and (NJT) employees that it is a "asap" goal. - A Dock needs the work and it will get it, its just a matter of when. That thing is an amazing piece of crap when you look at it from the ground btw.B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted April 5, 2009 Author Share #15 Posted April 5, 2009 Dock needs the work and it will get it, its just a matter of when. That thing is an amazing piece of crap when you look at it from the ground btw.B) It is strikingly beautiful and bad looking at the same time. It's like it had a rough weekend in a bad part of town and its passed out just short of the front door (nyc). B):cool: On a more serioius note, yes, it looks really haggered. The years have not been kind to it, mostly due to PC not taking care of it. You know, it's kind of sad that PC failed and struggled as it did, it really should have been implemented better and given time to adapt signaling unions etc, not only that, but we are still working today to reverse some of the neglect they were forced to resort to. C'est la vie. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted April 5, 2009 Author Share #16 Posted April 5, 2009 Oh also related to Dock. (NJT) HQ has an unobstructed view of the engineering masterpiece. I wonder if the condition of it bothers some of the office employees...... - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kaback9 Posted April 5, 2009 Share #17 Posted April 5, 2009 Oh also related to Dock. (NJT) HQ has an unobstructed view of the engineering masterpiece. I wonder if the condition of it bothers some of the office employees...... - A HAHAHAHAHAHAHA, I'm sure its really bothering Sarles...B) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted April 5, 2009 Author Share #18 Posted April 5, 2009 I think you can see the portal bridge too, all be it farther in the distance. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted April 5, 2009 Share #19 Posted April 5, 2009 when this new tunnel is finished, the Port Jervis line is in dire need to be extended to NY-Penn Station. Bergen County and Rockland/Orange Counties are among the fastest growing regions in entire East Coast population-wise. The GWB and Tappan Zee in addition to the Lincoln Tunnel is a parking lot. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted April 5, 2009 Author Share #20 Posted April 5, 2009 when this new tunnel is finished, the Port Jervis line is in dire need to be extended to NY-Penn Station. Bergen County and Rockland/Orange Counties are among the fastest growing regions in entire East Coast population-wise. The GWB and Tappan Zee in addition to the Lincoln Tunnel is a parking lot. I think that would be a mistake, i think it would encourage even more growth, which while not 100% bad, development needs to slow the hell down in the northeast or we'll have no open land left. I think PATH from hoboken and using the SEC transfer are good options for now. Port jervis.... I think they need some faster speeds on the line, and maybe a few more trains per day, but not direct service to NYC, i just feel that would not be a good thing, even if i can't quantify it. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted April 5, 2009 Share #21 Posted April 5, 2009 I think that would be a mistake, i think it would encourage even more growth, which while not 100% bad, development needs to slow the hell down in the northeast or we'll have no open land left. I think PATH from hoboken and using the SEC transfer are good options for now. Port jervis.... I think they need some faster speeds on the line, and maybe a few more trains per day, but not direct service to NYC, i just feel that would not be a good thing, even if i can't quantify it. - A Again Metsfan have you been on the Port Jervis line? At least weekday service direct to NYC is badly needed on Pt Jervis for the population boom in Bergen, Rockland and Orange Counties. I thought Metsfan you wanted cars off the road? This would help take cars off the lincoln tunnel, GWB and even the Tappan Zee Bridges. Even crowding on the Path line too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted April 5, 2009 Author Share #22 Posted April 5, 2009 Again Metsfan have you been on the Port Jervis line? At least weekday service direct to NYC is badly needed on Pt Jervis for the population boom in Bergen, Rockland and Orange Counties. I thought Metsfan you wanted cars off the road? This would help take cars off the lincoln tunnel, GWB and even the Tappan Zee Bridges. Even crowding on the Path line too. I'm saying that maybe the population boom ISNT good and people should not be building houses on former farmland & wooded areas. There has to be a balance between transportation and development. Making more trains will only encourage further development of said areas. I think that if zoning codes were changed to have a LARGE minimum property size, that would be fine, like 3-5 acres per house legally non-sub-divisible. It's all one big picture all inter-connected. Taking cars off roads is not a win if it means more land turned into houses. - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Amtrak7 Posted June 5, 2009 Share #23 Posted June 5, 2009 Groundbreaking is Monday! http://www.njtransit.com Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted June 5, 2009 Author Share #24 Posted June 5, 2009 It is! :eek: It's actually happening!!!! :eek::eek::eek: :tup: Woohoo! :cool: - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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