Future ENY OP

Just a simple random thought: Would like to see more driverside wraps, roof ads, 30x240 billboards in the outer boroughs for the new year 2019. I get it advertising is very expensive and mostly caters to Manhattan and express bus depots.. However, when you see ads on Manhattan buses that are driverside wraps meanwhile in Brooklyn there’s a 30x144 version of that ad. Although, some improvements have been made throughout the years to incorporate driverside ads and roofads in the outer boroughs and the landscape of NYC is changing and I think the outer boroughs should have a slight touch of Manhattan when it comes to advertising with buses.

Downtown Brooklyn parking is hit or miss. Add that with the construction, traffic cops that patrol Fulton Street, Atlantic Avenue and some side streets. It’s becoming an hinderance. If I didn’t have a car note to deal with each month than i’d settle for public transportation.

You were right about a previous convo we had about the FB LFSA’s. Apparently it’s Manhattan bound right now for the first few.

Remember the word: Subject to change. This is the No assignment is the same.

Other areas in Brooklyn that COMMUTERS wait on lines is on express buses BM1,2,3,4 on Cortelyou Road // East 19th and x27/28. Haven’t been on train or bus full time in like 6 years. I like my car commute from Canarsie to Downtown Brooklyn. I’m Downtown on an average of 35 mins or less via Flatbush and some back streets. Some are school zones. However, I’m usually out my residence at 5:30AM.

Per @TransitMan0251 West Farms scraps.

I agree. However, this is the Metropolitan Transportation Authority they will do anything to break up a good thing.

They got sent to Tusk/100th. As of last night they were sitting in the depot awaiting to be fueled and registered.

@East New York: This is a great update and thank you for the continuous hard work that you and the staff do to get up to the minute updates. My only personal issue is with the current 7484-7850 update. When it first came out no where didn't mention West Farms as for original assignment. However, only for the shuttle assignment. Since there is a possibility that the shuttle may not go down WF is eating up part of the order to which most of the buses belong in the Brooklyn Division, Quill and Jamaica. Since I highly doubt for right now for any option order for the XN40's/XN60's (Will that be on the table for the near future b/c of the shortage going on at West Farms?) Delivery is about 97% complete with the XN60's.

Your answer on top.

If it's sitting at TU/100th. Give about 24 hours or less its going to be registered and in service.

Copy.. Copy. SBS wrap taken off? It's Gotta be a move. Since FB has 6117, and 6119 from MJQ

5325 & 5331 are out of Brooklyn and heading to Manhattan?

We have 2010 models: 12xx series buses that are still in SBS service. I definitely see those buses retiring soon too along with the 2011 models. The Bronx 12xx buses 1201-1232 have been repainted and rehabbed in some sort. I wonder where the MCH 12xx buses will transfer to next once they receive XD60's? TU/100, WF, KB or GH?

First off: The 6 and 82 poses unique situations. Ulmer Park will NOT give up 120+ routes for a split or overall take over of the 6. and for East New York with the 82. I believe both ENY and UP have clout in the division so things like this could go either way. (It all comes down to territory) ENY central location is on the north side of the division. However, operating south Brooklyn routes with exception of the Q24/56/B83/B84 (North Brooklyn). In one post sometime last week or 2 weeks ago a fantasy re-alignment of the Brooklyn Division could help both north and south Brooklyn. However, with some of those routes depots would have to make more room, possibly build annexes or store buses in other depots in order for those moves to happen. (TA is not in the business to build new depots especially in Brooklyn. Tons of missed Real Estate opportunities in Brooklyn, Queens and Staten Island meanwhile more luxury apartments are being built. That's another post for another day.) Now, I've always said that the BK Division is the most complicated division. There are routes that totally make sense and belong in said depots. However, there are others that are toss ups and lastly, there are others that completely have no place in said depots. With that said, I'm going to slightly echo what @B35 via Church said yesterday. We need to be careful what we ask for. Don't be surprised if DOB pulls a fast one on all of us here and start to loosen control between East New York and Ulmer Park and both crew rooms will suffer with a possible split or actual swap of the lines. Similar to what happen with the current Fresh Pond and Grand Avenue fiasco with the B38 and Q58 with GA getting full control of both routes. I get it and understand Fresh Pond is not artic ready and that's why both routes had to leave. Slightly off topic: It feels so weird to see a Fresh Pond bus in Canarsie where as the 60 belongs home at East New York. I wonder how that Q54/B60 interline is doing?

Don't like the idea at all. We don't need the TA to pull a MaBSOTA for FB to have all the SBS routes than the Brooklyn Division will be a total mess times 10. Leave ENY with the B82 SBS and Local and besides ENY has more pull than FB (political wise in Brooklyn Division)

That is a copy good sir. To my guess and assumption that the XDE order is a no-go right now. Yikes, that's a shocker right there. So were talking at least 24 mos from now EN could be artic ready?

What you just said @B35 via Church has a valid point. Trust and believe whatever we want and say can have a major effect especially the good folks at 2 Broadway.

First off. No 46 local is leaving Flatbush for Grand Avenue. No need to split the 46. Flatbush could handle its own between the local and SBS and let’s stop with the splitting of the work between depots. Grand Avenue doesn’t need to be on the other side of Brooklyn doing work. That’s already done by the B47. The 82 belongs in East New York and it needs to stay that way. FB doesn’t need to be like Quill to have all of the SBS routes (and this is why the Brooklyn Division is a mess all this spitting of work between depots). Right now the TA is not in the business of building new depots and this is why we are in the mess of splitting work to different depots. When you split work among other depots that causes delays (IMO) where as when the work is already being done by the home depot

I've noticed that too. Especially during the rush hours. All pickups are on the main road. The swing bus is on the service road. Late nights- 10PM-5AM service is on the service road. (From my observations as of late)

Yikes. I goofed off on this one. I totally forgetting the congestion around Utica/Eastern Parkway. However, I wanted to see if there was a direct route. Throwing the 15 on St. Johns would of been OK. However, that faces the other congestion problem on Utica.

You beat me to this. However, this was about the same thing I was thinking. However, I see a slight issue with highlighted portion.. I would have that run up Albany to Eastern Parkway to Ralph heading towards the airport. I'm in full agreement with the rest of the route.

Copy.. (I think you meant MJQ) Also, I'm no spelling error police. However, you got too many errors going on here. (made some corrections)

Yes, I do agree with that. Hopefully with this round of deliveries that could happen. Cannot for see 7615-7662 be the only deliveries for FB. Also do remember we have FP, JA, UP, GA, MJQ all on the board for additional buses too. However, TA is splitting these buses between West Farms which have little to no CNG buses. TA needs to tap into another option order for more XN40's for WF only.

Everything with the is subject to change. 12-18 months from now those buses 6109-6125 may end up staying in Manhattan and East New York receiving a new batch of XD60's or hopefully XDE60's. MCH and FB artics are on the way since the shuttle is a no-go.