MassTransitHonchkrow

I think the Triboro Rail Project would be a more feasible, better-serving and cost effective project.

@BreeddekalbL how about connecting the SAS to the tip of the Astoria line instead of tunneling even deeper under Lex Av - 125 St?

It would make for a fantastic view going into Manhattan and it wouldn't have to be tunneled under.

The Manhattan portion of SAS would still be underground.

But for EL material, fiberglass, faux quartz and stainless steel would make them the nicest looking ELs in the land. They get a bad rep, but the truth is, they really got bad maintenance.

The 62nd Street - New Utrecht Av station's connecting foyer will be shut down as elevator construction is slated to begin.

While it should be viewed as good news, it was planned in the last capital budget, and as such, is better late than never.

10 hours ago, B35 via Church said:

Anything that isn't the front door, function as back doors.... The b/o will either [open the front door only] or [open the front doors, along with the back door].... In your case, he/she only opened the front door - and under the condition you give (an obstruction), rightfully so.....

There is no "SBS mode" where every single door opens (regardless of any situation), if that's what you may have been thinking....
Artics (operating as SBS' or not) aren't any less prone to having someone yell BACK DOOR whenever the b/o doesn't open them....

That's for certain. After clarifying it on a B44 ride earlier this week, it seems every NYCT bus has doors that can be optionally driver-controlled. 'SBS mode' isn't really the term you use for that.

On 11/20/2017 at 4:45 PM, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

That's BS.  You shouldn't have to have extra on your card for your transfer if you have the exact amount. So in other words, I can only get my transfer if I have more than say $2.75 (e.g. $2.76 or $2.80) if that's what the fare is for that particular transaction.  The whole point of the Metrocard is to get your free transfer.  If they aren't giving it to you, then they're ripping you off, one by not giving you the transfer, and two by forcing you to keep odd amounts on your card that you likely will forget about or not be able to add to in order to get the exact amount off of it, so that goes back to the  and with so many people having odd amounts, it adds up to millions back in the  coffers.   I use the "Refill My Metrocard" app when I use Pay-Per-Rides since I normally get a weekly Express Bus Plus Metrocard and am not always sure of how much I should put on the card to make everything work for the week.  This is yet another reason why so many people opt for passes even when they don't need. Too much aggravation remembering all of these stupid rules.

The fareboxes are programmed differently between local and express buses only. Similar buses will never charge a differential because they cost the same between each other.

If you program a farebox to take $2.75, it will take $2.75. If you program a farebox to take $6.50, it will take $6.50. If the data from a cheaper farebox [example=S4494 NE] is imprinted and put against one that charges more [example=X17J NE], the math is done to make it add up.

It is, by no means whatsoever, a glitch. 

Another example:

Bee-Line buses don't have to increase the fare alongside the city, but they choose to do so so as not to create a situation like this, but between the local buses of different agencies. They could keep the fare at $2.25 if they chose to, but transfers between city and Bee-Line buses would cost 50 cents (between their own buses, it'd be free though).

That app is a calculator. Use the formula I mentioned. It works with any calculator. Bonuses are applied at two rides or higher at the rate of refill x 1.05 = total after bonus.

1 minute ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

No it is a glitch. I have the app on my phone that gives me the exact amount that I need when I use pay-per-rides, so that I don't have odd amounts left over, so that means that when I swipe my card through the turnstile and it takes off the last $2.75, my card should have a transfer on it, but it doesn't.  I suspect that if he had exactly $3.75 left for the express bus, it may not give him that transfer.  That's what I'm getting at.

If it takes the last $2.75, the callback balance can't exceed $2.75 or the transfer will fail. If you want the Xfer to work without a hitch, $6.50 must be on the card at the start of your trip.

Upon swiping $2.75 at a subway or local bus, you have the same two hours to board an express bus with that same MetroCard to get a transfer.

What app? Payment app or just an estimator? If you're not using EasyPay, the card is charged $2.75 at the turnstile, as opposed to the $2.62 (because EZP MC's pre-calculate bonuses before swipes).

Bonus calculation is fare X 1.05 (after minimum two ride refill). Use 1/x formula to calculate per ride cost with bonus prefactored in.

I touched up the default map on a subway map generator (which was made in 2016) and it says it costs $2.79 to operate it all.

So maybe we should consider nickeling and not quartering people (although personally I think that would cause ridership to fall)?

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On 9/26/2017 at 2:04 PM, CDTA said:

Since I'm not upstate anymore I really appreciate all the updates! Keep them up if you can!

@Autocar and I'll be happy to upvote you each time you do.

21 minutes ago, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

That's correct per Cait Sith.  Just make sure that you have more than $3.75 on the card because if you don't, the transfer may not go through.  I've had instances where I've taken the subway using a Pay-Per-Ride up to Metro-North and then went to dip my card after getting off of the train only to find out that my transfer was not on my card when using it on the Hudson Rail Link Shuttle Bus, even though it should be, so as long as there is say $0.05 cents on the card you should be fine.  Supposedly a "glitch" on the  's end. I call it BS.  Sometimes I'm not sure of my schedule until the following week so on occasion I'll use pay-per-rides.  You shouldn't have to leave odd amounts on the card to get a transfer that you're entitled to, but this is how the  has it set up.

No glitch. Mismatched math will cause any card to not pass. Tranferring from local to express with only $3.60 left over will elicit the same issue if it were a $2.75 ride but only $2.50 could be pulled.

If such a situation occurs, the user should add coins when prompted by the box to do so. The card will be emptied whether or not the fare is paid in full, so it's best you carry coins to complete it.

You can ask for a paper transfer in this instance.

On Express buses, gold dollars are a rider's best friend. Who would want to carry 28 quarters in their pocket anyway? :-/

31 minutes ago, IAlam said:

Does anyone remember that rule about Unlimited cards on express buses? Wasn't it something like if you swipe to a bus or subway first then get on the express bus they only charge you $3.75

Still in effect and only applies to Pay Per Ride.

When you swipe into the subway or local bus ($2.75) and then Xfer to an Express bus, the difference between local base fare and express bus fare ($6.50) is calculated into the Xfer.

Seniors can't use discounts during rush hour and their cards will indiscriminately be charged $6.50 as well. If you board the Express bus first, Xfers to the subway or local bus are free.

On 11/1/2017 at 11:11 PM, biGC323232 said:

I dont understand why the mta never built a subway to staten island...but yes good idea....gold mine

I still think a Hudson-Bergen collab would be more cost effective as it would allow PATH connections. The last stop on HBLR is less than seven miles from Pt Richmond.

17 hours ago, 01fatgar said:

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10 hours ago, checkmatechamp13 said:

Yeah, but what problem does your proposal solve? Who wants to get from 66th Street to 42nd Street via the West Side Highway or FDR Drive instead of a direct north-south route?

It was previously mentioned that the M50 and M66 serve a smaller population, and I made my suggestion with respect to that knowledge.

The latter is an underperformer, having made statistical headlines as the pokiest route in all the system, and the other caters to a specific population set better suited to utilizing AAR. ♿🍎

Just to clarify, the pairs I suggested were the M42 combining with the M50, and a separate combination of the M66 and M72, the bold being the dominant remnant of the merger.

The discarded routes would be limited stops and the superimposing routes would remain unchanged. Some crosstowns already coexist on the same and differing streets (M96/M106), so I don't see my suggestion as unusual.

The MTA is bleeding money by the billions. It's either drop underperforming buses or force riders to pay more for lackluster service. 🤗

On 11/14/2017 at 11:55 PM, Around the Horn said:

Sure, if you want to make OTP for those routes even worse...

As an occasional M42 and M66 rider, I sure as hell don't want my bus sitting in 49th or 72nd Street traffic on its way to me.

You partially quoted me.

Buses sit in traffic because they can't make the best use of the road. I specifically mentioned TSP, wraparound lanes and alternate side parking reduction.

By itself, my suggestion is regressive and god-awful. But so are the roads beneath some of the city's worst routes, and omitting solutions leaves only the problems, which will get worse on their own.

On 11/14/2017 at 9:15 PM, checkmatechamp13 said:

At least they get some overtime out of it.

There's no S99. The S89 is considered the limited-stop version of the S59, and as somebody who lives near both the S59/89 and S62/92, I can tell you that SBS on either corridor is completely unnecessary.

I wonder why it sounded weird at first.

I'll take your  word for it.

@Via Garibaldi 8 or better yet, they should cut their losses.

I know bus cuts aren't viewed as cool, but if they had to happen, I would support three conditions:

Manhattan first.

Western Queen's second.

Hands off Richmond.

I find it pitiful they are only slated for one more SBS (glorified LTD).

I would nominate the S59/99 and S62/92 for SBS 

On 11/12/2017 at 9:15 PM, Lawrence St said:

PLEASE, DON'T ENCOURAGE IT I MEAN HIM!

Referring to me as a thing is a compliment to me 😄

If you were trying to insult me, try not to state the obvious 😏

On 11/12/2017 at 11:43 AM, Via Garibaldi 8 said:

The M50 becomes more useless every year... Crane operations, street fairs... Then basically from late Novrmber until next year they'll be one detour because of the amount of tourists in the West Midtown area.

Is this designation also fair for the M66?

Is it possible to make XTowns wraparound a wider section of block so they can serve another east-west road? 

Like having the M72 loop around both 72nd and 68th Streets, and the M42 cover both 42nd and 49th Streets, rendering the M50 and M66 pointless.

This suggestion would work best with alternate side parking removed on one side of each mentioned block, wraparound bus lanes and TSP.

Otherwise, my suggestion would overlook the issues on those roads that plague existing bus service on those blocks.

The very busy nature of Manhattan makes bus service non viable, especially for XTowns.

54 minutes ago, Lance said:

You know, you can just ignore each other. It's not that serious. In that same vein, @MassTransitHonchkrow, don't take everything as a personal attack. Sometimes, you just have to laugh it off because it's not that big of a deal.

I already am.

13 hours ago, Fresh Pond said:

You never specified

Did I have to?

Good night. I will parse further replies tomorrow.

5 hours ago, Around the Horn said:

What part of "The dispatcher probably told them to hold the train there" do you not get?

 

In any event, you yelling at a transit employee is an incredibly stupid thing to do...

I'd do it again. It's not against the law to hurt people's egos. The MTA has done dumber things at the expense of human life, so I'm not concerned about the impact of my behavior.

Many passengers actually agreed with my actions 

In my eyes NYCT personnel are as docile as they are senile.

49 minutes ago, trainfan22 said:

I rode an R42  train about a decade ago that lost indication while moving and the T/O slowed down right away, crew took the train OOS the very next stop. I been on a R142 which rolled at President street S/B and someone pulled the cord a few seconds later, T/O didn't take power though probably released the brakes and the train rolled, T/O eventually recharged the train made the rest of its trip to Flatbush without issue.

 

 

In all fairness I'm sure its against the rules for the T/O to move the train in revenue service with the doors open for obvious reasons, I assume that's what @MassTransitHonchkrow was implying.

That was my intent, thanks. ^-^

I only hope that kind of logic isn't applied in a real world situation with the expectation of job security.

2 hours ago, Fresh Pond said:

Except you can actually move a train with the doors open.

 

...10 years of this site and still oozing of new information left and right, isn' it amazing?

Not with passengers on board.

Where is your sense of logic in that reply? 

You were willing to craft a reply void of logic just to parry my sarcasm?

Unbelievable XD

5 hours ago, Around the Horn said:

What part of "The dispatcher probably told them to hold the train there" do you not get?

 

In any event, you yelling at a transit employee is an incredibly stupid thing to do...

You'd have to be there to understand why I said something.

I'm not reacting to any more comments for now regarding this. I stand by my actions and would do it again if the situation repeated itself.

I (and other pax) waited ten minutes. Who gets held at the station for ten minutes with no explanation or PA briefing? Please tell me how that's fair to riders?

You can vent your frustration at my position as loud as you'd like but the riders I sat next to appreciated my effort.

Defending a failure in communication is a failure in communication.

I can weaponize sarcasm too, and with muting, can create my own safe space while I think of better replies.

Easy now...