EastFlatbushLarry

sarcastically speaking, I'm speechless

@Cait Sith wow, talk about bad memories 🤦🏾‍♂️🤣😂 i remember when the 54xx's and the Gun Hill 10xx's were sent down to 100 street. yes, they were notorious for roach infestation. i remember hanging out with my ex, and she didn't give a f**k... she for sure didn't turn those artics off, especially at Fort George (layovers were always longer up there) when i finally did start at 100, the roaches slipped my mind, and i had a 5420-something (5423 iinm) and i laid over. i walked around to stretch my legs and hit up a corner store. when i came back, and hit the lights (i didn't even turn the bus fully on) i easily saw over 10 roaches scurrying around the back. my skin was crawling all the way down to the village. I really thought about reporting a dirty bus, but I wanted to get that run over with tbh. to @Future ENY OP this is why i brought up history beforehand, because of the point you made. OA did split lines for that exact reason. and to that end, even before KB had (and subsequently lost) the 39, i honestly thought WF & KB/GH could/should/would split the 39 (also considered the 36 doing a KB/WF split.. but I digress) btw... am i tripping or not: didn't the Bx8 and 31 run out of Gun Hill once upon a time? also, i brought up EC only because it doesn't seem (at least from my point of view) that Yonkers will be in the long-term plans going forward with whatever will become of Bus Company, any so-called merger, absorption or dissolution. to @Via Garibaldi 8 i remember hearing (and eventually seeing) that Yonkers depot used the 2-6 satellite yard on 128th for midday layovers as opposed to making the trip back to YO, just to come back downtown... made sense when i heard it. i could be wrong, but i believe some Queens Bus Company yards used the lot as well. as far as I know (from what I heard some time ago) operators & SLD's from Hale & OH still utilize the restrooms in 2-6 depot. they used to assign a caretaker fron Hale to maintain the restrooms, but i heard (specifically from OH female b/o's) that the bathrooms weren't being maintained at all, which is a damn shame imo... it really is atrocious to have to head back downtown with a full bladder, male or female.. Unless you take a personal and head to Lexington with your bus, which is asking alot.

being at ENY in 09, myself and other classmates were concerned about being bumped out during the upcoming school/fall pick (and for the system pick), because of the way 126 and brooklyn was set up. if you were in a brooklyn yard, depending on your seniority, you were allowed to pick 2-6 for the summer, then go back to your original depot in September. my girlfriend at the time (now ex wife) was one of several b/o's who verified those rumors outta two-six (most of the people who picked the 66/72 for the summer told us about the burial ground shit) in regards to 2010, I'll keep it a hunnit, i do NOT miss that period of my life, from a personal standpoint being laid off, and from a landscape point of view. i ended up in KB when we were recalled, and that system pick going into 2011? as you accurately described it, Quill had work, you just needed time on the books. forget just 126 b/o's, ask any OA (or TA for that matter... excluding Quill, of course) employee how they felt about Quill back then... pissed isn't even the word. it was beyond aggravating. people were saying "yo, i gotta go to a division yard like QUILL to TRY for a decent run or stay (insert depot name here) and try to get the leftovers?", because former Amsterdam/Hale people were gobbling up everything uptown (meaning OF/MV/KB) and brooklyn specifically became "bump city" once seniors caught on to low seniority b/o's getting paid (and good rdo's) at Grand Avenue... plus the rumor vulture circling overhead about 126 made everybody uneasy. my ex wife and i "miraculously" ended up at 100 street because of the brooklyn zoo and the quill shit. i just remembered that 2-6 found a way to hold onto the 116 as well, before that suspect split with MV occured (with 2-6 getting Saturday/Sunday rdo's out of the deal, hence why 126 only had it Mon-Fri)

iinm, originally the 39 was GH work, which is kinda hard to say, because through my research, OA yards have historically split lines/runs and swapped lines incessantly, significantly more that TA. for example, between Hale, Amsterdam & MV (even the prior rendition of that yard as 132nd Street Depot) all split (at various times) the M1/2/3/4 and so on. whatever's gonna happen going forward (as far as the redesign) will be a zoo. i will say this: I've often thought that if Eastchester was to be absorbed into the Bronx Division as a OA yard, even that wouldn't help things. all that'll do is provoke the closure of Yonkers and they'll absolutely try to "College Point" the f**k outta EC. but that'll be a headache for years down the road

Here's the thing with me: the asthma/community concerns are valid. HOWEVER, they keep 100 street open, push more runs than necessary out of Manhattanville (especially considering how "concerned" they are for the community) close two-six & AMS (which historically, Amsterdam has always been necessary for Uptown... the 60, bx15, m104, bx6 among other lines have run out of there.. it's far from being the red headed stepchild on the west side) and force the Bronx take on work it can barely manage (borderline Staten Island syndrome) all the juggling of lines/runs, all the depots that are consistently short on buses (looking at you 100 street & Hale, with MV having to make up the difference)... it's not a mystery as to why MaBSTOA services are terrible. I'm not saying that AMS or two-six should reopen immediately, but the way they do shit is moronic. have comprable replacements in place, which they never do. you can't rely on Quill, WF, MV & GH to do ALL the heavy lifting... it's NOT working. on a good day, if OH, OF & WF are short, it's a slight catastrophe, because during the shoulder am rush, MAYBE MV & GH can loan out buses. on a bad day, good luck.

yes, but over those years they repeatedly hinted at closure and gave that half assed reasoning. it was well-known that the depot was built on an African cemetery and to the unions credit (for what it's worth these days) they vigorously opposed. they gradually took away sat/sun rdo's and robust run pay out of 126 (on the 66/72) which sent alot of people running to (or back to) Brooklyn to tie up big money in Grand Avenue, Flatbush (B2/31/49) or ENY (B12/25 Q24/56) or they took the hit by working in OA by the time they were done making two six unappealing, they had a skeleton crew up there. btw, guess where everyone who had S/S rdo's or a money run on the 15 went? right to 100 street to work a pm or late run or Hale. i was somewhat surprised to find quite a few hale ppl went back (even though they lost the 2, the 19 and the 33)

they absolutely closed two-six because of politics. they didn't want TA Brooklyn having 7 depots. the justification being that Grand Avenue in effect replaced 126. the unions' VALID argument was that Grand Avenue's opening should have no bearing on TA employees (mechanics, cleaners & B/O's) being staffed at 126, seeing as another brooklyn yard has been needed going back to the closing of Crosstown. THAT should've been the replacement: Grand Avenue for Crosstown. btw, the ultimate reason why this was/is a big deal is because TA/OA B/O's can work in any TA/OA yard. mechanics & cleaners cannot. so they lost significant work because of two-six being closed. management used the burial ground excuse to weasel their way out of doing right by TA employees... not saying that the burial grounds shouldn't be preserved or acknowledged. it's just the way they went about things and the timing... like majority of things they do when it comes to the workforce. even though 126 was a TA yard, it's closure has been disastrous for OA. the m60 running out of quill (and all the pullout & pullin payouts from that f***ry) the Bx15 split between WF & KB, eventually all being housed at KB, the Bx39 can't find a friggin' home to save it's life, the Bx19/33 being at God forsaken WF, KB losing the Bx41, the 5 runs (iinm) on the m35 being "split" between Hale & 100 street... among other issues in OA, always leads to the question of "how much easier would life be if two-six was available?" i mean, they could've built a depot across the street on 126 between 2nd & 3rd, you know... the plot of land they own(ed) that D60HF artics were stored in? I'm not saying that's the best idea, but God forbid anyone questions the authority's problem solving skills.

geez, I hope they will be retired. I've always wondered what model year those units were... from any pix i see of 'em, they look a tad on the tired side

no. it's supposed to be the main command center for NYCTA/MaBSTOA & MTA Bus when both radio systems (which are currently separate) become fully integrated. this has absolutely no bearing on TA/OA & BC "merging" or OA "absorbing" Bus Company. THAT will not happen for quite awhile. it took approx. 40+ years from the creation of MaBSTOA (1962) to fully "merge" with TA (the creation of the true consolidated seniority list, effective dec. 2, 2004)

THIS. they griped for years about losing Sat/Sun RDO's to Flatbush for those B6 runs between either Rock Station or Ralph Avenue/Glenwood Houses to Nostrand. those were split runs (am & pm pieces) with 5-6 hour swings (and upward of 10-11 hour runs in general). i remember them vividly.

is it too early to suggest that artics on the Q70 is a f**king waste? that's why those 60xx's are still at LG imo. really... is the Q70 top 10 in Queens, letalone in LaGuardia Depot itself to warrant artics?

at this point, that's far from an opinion. the way the union heads on Montague talked about artics showing up at UP is the EXACT same way it was described at FB. people "dropped the ball" and failed to inform TAS reps, and then never made efforts to reverse course. i only assume that ATU1056 fought artics at CS.. I can't speak from a place of knowledge re: them. but their reasoning behind fighting would've been legit because of what ended up happening to the Q44

don't forget artics for LGA so they can FINALLY give the 60xx's back to NYCTA/MaBSTOA... i mean really: is anybody really thinking that'll happen at this point 🤦🏾‍♂️ remind you? inform ME when SLD's set foot in there, because the way i hear it, TWU (the SSSA & Local 106) told them to f**k off with that bullshit😂

I'm so glad you mentioned Charleston. yeah, they were storing upwards of 300 bus at Yukon & Castleton for DECADES. so even if the common number at Castleton specifically is 250+ buses, they're STILL overcrowded TODAY 😂 Castleton looks like it wasn't even meant for 220 back in the Staten Island Depot days. and the same thing they did to Charleston (and Grand Avenue) is what happened when Yukon opened... shove every possible unit in the building. so even if there's a plan for artics on the s79 or the 40/90 (and I've heard victory blvd mentioned for artics as well, don't know if there's any truth to that) where are these buses being stored exactly? will transit finally get off their asses and build a legit 4th yard? will they redesign Meredith to actually be a functional depot, as opposed to a knock off school bus company? tune in for the next episode of transit f**k'ry

whether there have been artics at FB or not, shifters have always parked buses on utica & flatbush by walgreens, flatbush by the jeep dealership or fillmore in the b100 bus stops. idk what the current situation is, especially with the avenue N lot, but regardless, that lot won't help much even if it's jam packed at night. someone who currently works at FB would know better. I'm in the Bx currently.

😂😂😂 see? THAT would be along the common lines of LOGIC. i mean, how do build a whole new facility from scratch and STILL find a way for it to be botched? imo however, even if they reallocated those resources for a needed SI yard or JA's reconstruction... theyd find a way to eff that up too. you can't make this shit up.

highly unlikely. i mean, people thought artics at casey stengel & ulmer park wouldn't work either, but imo i cannot see this. Yukon? possibly. in all honesty, i don't see ATU726 being even remotely receptive to artics in general.

examples include the B41's slow, yet rapid decline & the M101/2/3

not for nothing, and I'm not calling myself or the author of the tweet an expert, but if anyone has ever owned a vehicle of any kind, you know for a fact that all it takes is driving thru a couple of inches of water to completely destroy an engine or transmission. so, if these 30 Castleton units (letalone ANY MTA buses) were in fact driven thru any amount of rain water (flooding), it would be safe to assume that the units in question are finished... as in totally destroyed. it's not worth any time or money to repair flooded vehicles.

iinm that's a NovaLFS

not to be an a**hole, but c'mon man. they have absolutely no 24/7 service. they could've updated their local units between 9pm - 5am

uh, can someone inform transit to remove the B98v/Q98v promo off Spring Creek units? unit #577 is still promoting both lines on the digital display... months after they were killed off 🙄😒

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absolutely true... and it showed rather quickly. when the 15 was out of Grand, on time performance went into the shitter, because of the interline with the 47, and because of the lateness of pull-outs/ins from Grand to woodhull... the JFK pull-ins/outs didn't exist (iirc) hence, why EN got it back ASAP.

never a myth. you WILL be pulled out of service by a SLD for conducting personal drama/beef on the clock, especially in passenger service. hell, my ex wife & a bf she had in 100 street (some dumb ass cleaner) were BOTH sent home for drama BEFORE they could even report for duty. this (among other reasons) is why I'd NEVER work in the same depot with my significant other. for the most part, males on this job get caught up by picking up females off the street or dating co-workers, then the bullshit happens and now you have full fledged Maury show drama that management and the union now HAVE to mediate/intervene. females never pick up strays/civilian customers. they'll date other B/O's, AGM's, SLD's, etc. OR come on to the job already married. that's not to say females don't get caught up. there was a SLD that was stalking a female B/O some years back, making crazy threats /threatening to kill himself after she gave him some. at some point, she refused to leave Sheepshead Bay on the 44 because homeboy was "waiting" for her at the Bridge and she was terrified to make the northbound trip. i forget the rest of what happened, but yeah, Transit can be a bit messy.