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Q44 losing weekend service after 9:30pm makes no sense

8 minutes ago, T to Dyre Avenue said:

I almost feel like either the  model or (8) skip-stop are the only real options. Maybe it would be possible to have the  trains stop at 161st before going express, so that all  service stops there. 

Woodlawn -> Mosholu -> Burnside -> 167 - > 161 -> 149 is possible with track switching

8 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

One if the things that makes me scratch my head, is why the W21 is a reverse-peak direction route. The W20 is one of the longest locals in the entire network, and a lot of people who live along Central Park Av want to get to the or . The W21 instead does the reverse, by going TO White Plains in the AM and FROM Bedford Park in the PM.

Reverse commuters going from The Bronx / Yonkers to White Plains, just like the 41 is reverse commute route with The Bronx / Mt Vernon to White Plains

On 11/12/2019 at 9:38 PM, Schecter said:

I hate being on board especially if you're on board at Grand Central.

Why is Grand Central different?

52 minutes ago, Italianstallion said:

If I read the chart above right, each of the 4 and 5 is losing ONE interval a day.

The  is going to be a Dyre shuttle one hour earlier in the evening. Also, the two reverse peak  trips to 241 St in the morning are also cut back to Gun Hill Rd and will be running express to Gun Hill Rd instead of local north of E 180 St to 241 St

Bus bunching on the Bx36 and Bx39, can happen anytime of day, middays, rush hours, even weekends. The lack of late night service on the Bx5 is another issue that should be brought up. MTA even proposed it in 2007. Bx39 service to/from Clason Point should be extended to at least 1am 7 days a week.

They should give 24 hour service to the Bx5 and full Bx39 so people wouldn't be stranded late nights

On 9/20/2019 at 10:12 PM, Jemorie said:

You're not even listening/reading though. How is capacity limited? Are you aware that service on both branches is much less frequent at all hours of the day including rush hour? And yes my comment was in response to yours and the two posters above.

You can check the northbound weekday  schedule or the Trip Planner itself, including Saturday and Sunday. After 9 p.m., trains leave both Lefferts Blvd and Far Rockaway respectively at 25+ minute headways. Then from 10 p.m. until midnight, trains are leaving their respective terminals at roughly half-hour headways, resulting in 15-minute headways west of Rockaway Blvd onwards. I'm saying that headways should be 20 minutes on the entire line in both directions (Far Rockaway-Inwood) after the  stops running.

Running the  to/from Lefferts Blvd is more expensive than just simply rescheduling the  properly to mesh with the 10-minute headways on the  and  lines and the 20-minute headways on the  Rockaway Park Shuttle.

That's a service cut on the rest of the  to go to 20 minutes between 10-11pm, just run 12-15 minutes to Far Rockaway and start the Lefferts shuttle after the  stops running.

10 hours ago, Lawrence St said:

Even during the night?

Yes just like the the past two weekends when it ran overnight, no need for three locals

6 minutes ago, Gotham Bus Co. said:

 

So... If they don't want the MTA to cut some service on Bronx routes to pay for added service on other Bronx routes, then which other borough(s) should the "additional funds" for the Bronx come from?

The Outer Borough Transportation Fund

https://qns.com/story/2018/04/03/cuomo-announces-50m-annual-funding-transit-improvements-queens-outer-boros/

13 hours ago, Jemorie said:

4. The  between 125th Street in Manhattan and Utica Avenue in Brooklyn.

 

 

Should be the  between 149th Street-Grand Concourse (or Burnside Avenue N/B only)) in the Bronx and Utica Avenue in Brooklyn

2 hours ago, Union Tpke said:

@RR503 Something just occurred to me. Now, when  service ends at Times Square,  service runs local. With  service ending at Times Square an hour earlier, wouldn't that bottle up  service, screwing things up more?

They already do this now from 11:47pm (first  shuttle) to 12:17am (last express). They will just be doing this a bit longer now.

5 hours ago, R68OnBroadway said:

The argument that you would need to kill a ton of other G.Os to run regular service is tiring... cut the  past 149th, end CPW/6th exp G.Os and then run the  on the weekends (or have  short turns to 2nd). It shouldn’t be difficult to choose fixing infrastructure which affects many on a daily basis over servicing a bunch of people who show up for a few hours for recreational entertainment...

Another thing: Why don’t they install a crossover at Broadway-Lafayette between the southbound local and express to end that annoying and confusing  swap G.O?

MTA would likely cut the weekend  all together and just extend the weekend  to Utica / New Lots Avenue, good for weekend late night  / riders, bad for weekend daytime  /  / riders. 

50 minutes ago, Around the Horn said:

I was just about to edit my comment but I'll add it here as a new one since RR503 quoted me already...

Targeted week/month/however long outages on the to replace track on the el with the and as alternatives is a good idea, and would most likely increase worker productivity. However the best time for this kind of work would be during the baseball off season.

Even then work would have to be restricted on a few days for College Football games (including the Pinstripe Bowl) and some NYC FC soccer games.

28 minutes ago, Lex said:

Because the  doesn't exist at all...

The  doesn't directly connect to the W20 bus and it is a longer trip for those coming from the Bx10, Bx16, Bx34, and W20 to get to the  than the .  Also the  is also more frequent than the  (which now runs 12 minutes on some weekends because of trackwork).

12 hours ago, Calvin said:

Is there a reason to how come the S79 is a SBS route but doesn't do machines with receipts and all-doors to open?

To secure Federal funding and to make sure SI doesn't get left out of the SBS program.

1 hour ago, paulrivera said:

 trains are running regular service and the  is running this weekend due to the pride parade, according to the countdown clocks.

https://gothamist.com/2019/06/17/mta_subway_pride_weekend.php

 The  will have to handle almost all of the Bronx riders between Bowling Green and 125th Street weekday evenings as the only express.

15 minutes ago, Lex said:

Aside from confusing passengers more, the  reductions have a bad tendency to come up alongside  reductions stemming from work in Manhattan (which, incidentally, comes up far more often than similar work in Brooklyn).

MTA  already does this sometimes on Monday mornings after a Clark Street Tunnel shutdown.  service runs Flatbush - 241, but there are still  trains running South Ferry - Dyre after 5am, so from about 5-7am there may be two different services running N/B from Chambers St to E 180 St. Also the  is running N/B as a Dyre shuttle while trains are still running to Dyre. Guess people are used to this happening during the "transitional service period". MTA would rather run two different  trains than run the  to/from Bowling Green after 4am (like they used to do in 2011)

Another option would be to run half of the  trains as  trains to South Ferry to maintain the service between E 180 St and 149 St - Grand Concourse, this way the  can be reduced on Lexington Avenue and there would still be the same amount of service in the Bronx.  MTA did this on a Friday evening once by suspending all  service from 8:30pm to 10:30pm S/B and from 10:00pm to 12:00am N/B and ran the  to both 241 St - Flatbush Ave and Dyre Av - South Ferry at the same time.  The  resumed service when the  and  swapped terminals though, the just went to/from Dyre early.

1 hour ago, RR503 said:

This is very much a NYCT problem. Weekend service reduction is a direct result of the agency’s lack of attention to GO productivity and of flagging rules developed largely by the agency. The agency may not have control over some of the more arcane work rules, but it absolutely can do a better job coordinating projects, properly scheduling work trains and flagging crews, etc. It also could either invest in track barriers to eliminate adjacent flagging, or review flagging rules to understand what in them is working and what is not while comparing to other systems’ practices. And of course there’s always the option of changing the predominant GO format — emphasizing less frequent full shutdowns over the endless dribble of one-direction reroutes. 

With the , the issue is the  and Brooklyn. You can’t run the  at 5tph, nor can you run Lex-Brooklyn or Jerome that low. So you run 7.5/3/7.5, which itself is really pushing it in terms of flagging capacities. I just wish they’d run 3tph of overlay service as far as 149-GC to complement the 3 of Manhattan service. 

The  has to run at 5 tph when the  is replacing the as 241 St and Flatbush Av can't have 20 minute headways. The has to run local when this happens though

It is either: 

7.5 /  3  /  7.5  

or

7.5  / 5  / 5 

Maybe now MTA can finally run a consistent 20 minute headway late night on the Bx15 since there can be up to 60 minute gaps after 4am some days

9 minutes ago, Gotham Bus Co. said:

 

 The old Bx7 used Bronx Park East south of Allerton.

 Bee-Line will have to close its doors (i.e. stop carrying passengers locally) along Boston Road. 

 

The Bx30 would also have to run on Fordham Road (and would have to swap with the Bx16 past Conner Street) for the 60/61/62 to be completely closed door

The alternative is to cut the to 12 minute headways and run the  local to keep the  running normally during GOs. They did this when the Clark Street Tunnels were closed. One weekend the was cut back to a Pelham shuttle at 125th and the  and  went local to Brooklyn.

1 hour ago, Deucey said:

It’s only called the Lex subway now. If you look at where it runs south of 42nd St, it was rightly called the Park Ave South-Lafayette St-Centre St-Broadway line.

It was once called the Lexington-4th Avenue line