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Bx5 could be extended to Bay Plaza on Fridays if a separate schedule is done.

8 minutes ago, Cait Sith said:

Then that would be the Q70 SBS. The Bx23 ends at both Co-Op City & Pelham Bay.

Bx23 starts/ends at Pelham Bay only, there are two route patterns, 1-2-3-4-5, 5-4-3-2-1, but only one terminal.

Should other stations on Metro North be re-opened, like 183rd Street? In that case there is no nearby subway station at all since the Third Avenue Elevated (8) train was demolished. 

This doesn't make any sense, Why run a Dyre shuttle (in mostly one direction at a time) for a few hours anyway, just keep the  running completely on Friday evening. 

TRACK MAINTENANCE
Service ends early between E 180 St and Bowling Green 
  trains provide alternate service  

Evenings, 8:45 PM to 11:59 PM, Friday, Jan 19  •  Jan 26  •  Feb 2

service operates between Dyre Av and E 180 St. 
 

Travel Alternatives

• Transfer between and trains at E 180 St.  
• Transfer between  and   trains at 149 St-Grand Concourse.

Trains run local in both directions between 125 St and Brooklyn Bridge 

Weekend, 10 PM Fri to 5 AM Mon, Feb 2 - 5

• Please allow additional travel time.

Trains run local in both directions between 125 St and Grand Central-42 St 

Weekend, 12:01 AM Sat to 5 AM Mon, Feb 3 - 5

• Please allow additional travel time.

8 hours ago, Jchambers2120 said:

The 5 is running to/from Wakefield-Flatbush while the 2 is running to/from Dyre-SF. People living on the Dyre branch would've had to transfer regardless if they wanted access to Brooklyn on weekends. Also, the amount of people traveling to/from Brooklyn to the Bronx via subway is more than likely miniscule compared to the amount of people who need acess to Manhattan. 

The needs of the many > the needs of the few. The work must be done.

This affects people going to Manhattan as well,  more crowded  to an even more crowded  making ALL stops, even worse if you are going to lower Manhattan.  

1 hour ago, Jemorie said:

How?

Brooklyn only has the  and  instead of the ,, and  .   MTA saves money during the day, only during the night would MTA  ( and  crews are running extended services) would the MTA lose a bit, but it is still overall weekend savings for MTA.

47 minutes ago, Bill from Maspeth said:

Passengers are used to this service plan (#5 White Plains to Flatbush via Lex, 4 to New Lots, 2 to South Ferry, 3 to 14/7) with weekend schedules.

No sense confusing them for a few days when no Clark St. work done.  I approve.

It also saves MTA money to keep the Clark Street Tunnels closed

3 hours ago, Calvin said:

Bowling Green trains start at 7:52PM at Eastchester till 10:02PM, yes, it's always there. 

The last to Flatbush Av leaves at 7:05PM

On Friday evenings (and weekdays before major holidays) Bowling Green  trains run out of Dyre from 7:52PM to 10:48PM

1 hour ago, Daniel The Cool said:

I don't think that was an error. I remember seeing a sign at Fulton Street saying the closure ended at 1 AM Friday when I was transferring to the Train the day before Thanksgiving.

MTA saved even more money doing that, cutting the  and  back

Subway Time showed the Clark Street tunnels open after 1am for some reason with the  to Brooklyn and the  as a Dyre shuttle.  The  was shown to be ending at 42 St, MTA needs to fix those errors, as the Sunday (2)/(3)/(5) schedules should have been in effect until 5am, not 12-1am.

7 minutes ago, paulrivera said:

I mean I could understand for a Monday holiday (Christmas and New Years come to mind) but a Thursday holiday where people specifically need to go to the West Side for the parade? That’s not fair for Brooklyn riders.

Speaking of New Years tho... New Years Eve is on a Sunday; are they still going to close the Clark tube on that day as well?

Yes, MTA made the  /  swap regular weekend service until Summer 2018 so the Clark Street Tunnels will be closed that day. 

The tunnels will also be closed on President's Day and Memorial Day as well. The tunnels were also closed on 4th of July (Tuesday).

Good news is for those in Manhattan and the Bronx extended  service. The   would normally start late and end early on a 'normal' weekend schedule.  runs better on the weekends than weekday (Monday-Thursday) evenings. MTA also saves money as long as these changes are in effect. The is also extended late night  and early morning to 14 St (instead of 42 St), so there is another positive.

2 hours ago, JubaionBx12+SBS said:

I hope whoever the idiots are that decided to start tomorrow's Yankees game at 4 pm let the MTA in on this. There's NO way service on the  and  during the 3-4 pm hour will handle all those stadium travelers plus the after-school crowd. 

The game starts at 5pm, the Lo-V's will run around 4pm.  service between 4-5pm is better equipped to handle the crowds than service 7-8pm. Also  service ending at 145 adding crowds to the long platform of people waiting for the  to show up doesn't help.

Overnight train bunching, also provides a rare transfer from  shuttle to another  at E 180 St

https://screenshots.firefox.com/nqH1DCqMeTFFe5sI/subwaytime.mta.info

The  extension to/from Bowling Green on Friday evenings (10:13/11:26, 10:26/11:40, 10:38/11:55, 10:48/12:05) should be made permanent. It helps get people off the  train, which is still crowded after 11pm.

MTA should also extend the 4:02, 4:22, and 4:42 to/from Bowling Green on Monday mornings instead of running those trains to E 180 St, keeps the  running  continuously (no more than 20-22 minute gap in service) and plugs the gap in service between E 180 St and Bowling Green. There is currently a gap in service  at E 180 St towards Manhattan (last '5' at 4:10am, first  at 5:12am). There is also gap at Bowling Green towards the Bronx (last '5' at 4:57am, first  at 6:18am). The extended service would leave Bowling Green at 5:17, 5:37, and 5:59 (there is a  train scheduled to leave Bowling Green at 5:57)

They already do this on Friday nights, why not Monday mornings, they did it in 2011. When the Dyre line is shut down, they already run extra '2' trains from E 180 St to South Ferry at 4:19 and 4:39 on Monday mornings so  crews are running as the '2' from South Ferry on some Mondays until around 5:44am.  This is after the begins going to/from Brooklyn. 

Normally the last '2' to reach E 180 St toward South Ferry on Monday is at 3:57am and the last '2' to leave South Ferry back towards Dyre Avenue is at 5:02am. Seems like MTA would rather run both the  and '2' on the 7th Avenue Local together between 4:30am and 6:30am instead of running the  on the Lexington Avenue Express after the '5' stops running.

Some SBS machines can damage metrocards causing read error messages, hard to use SBS if you can't get a ticket because your Metrocard no longer works after trying to get a receipt.

Those are trains going to and from 241 St. It's likely a glitch that shows them as the .

No, both routes are running on 7 Av after 4:30am S/B, 5:00am N/B, they are both running as trains with no Lexington or service. The crews are still operating as '2' trains even after the Clark Street Tunnel has re-opened. Those trains should be running as trains to Bowling Green like Friday nights.

'2' trains were leaving South Ferry until 5:44am, the first leaving Flatbush going to 7 Av was 4:40am

Looks like MTA now rather double service than keep the running until AM rush service starts....

trains will soon be going to BOTH South Ferry AND Flatbush Avenue at the same time. Soon they will also be going to BOTH 241 St AND Dyre Av at the same time....

The already has a transfer to the and trains at Canal Street. Besides, late night trains only run in Brooklyn as a shuttle. Trains make stops in that segment. Also, the can't realistically end at Chambers unless you're talking about the WTC stop.

Late night trains run to Whitehall from Brooklyn, he wants the late night to run up the Nassau line from Brooklyn to Chambers.

Seems like the Clark Street tunnel shutdown helps the Lexington line on late Friday evenings and early Saturday mornings by relieving the crowded train with the extra service from Bowling Green. Maybe the Friday shuttle service extensions from Dyre Avenue/Bowling Green (10:13/11:26, 10:26/11:40 10:38/11:55, 10:48/12:05) should be made permanent.

If the went to Lefferts, wouldn't they need several more trains to maintain service levels? Or, would every other train turn at Howard Beach?

The would be eliminated(except late nights) so those cars would be free to be used to extend half of the service to Rockaway Park

Then how hard would it be for them to put "Dyre Av-bound trains..." or something like that?

 

 

The routes are run as they are to keep the train crews on the appropriate routes. The from 241 Street to Flatbush Av is a similar length to its 7th Avenue counterpart and thus will run with line crews. Similarly, the route from Dyre Av to South Ferry is close enough to the normal route to Bowling Green that it will use the normal line crews. It's more beneficial for the train crews than it is for the riders. With that said, Dyre Ave riders are making out like bandits with almost 24/7 Bronx - Manhattan service through either the weekday or weekend .

The is extended to Bowling Green late Friday evenings(10:13, 10:26, 10:38, 10:48) but not early Monday mornings(4:02, 4:22, 4:42) for some reason. Might as well plug the gap in service at Bowling Green from 4:57 to 6:18 and keep the running instead of having extra trains running to both 241 and Dyre at the same time. Also having Dyre shuttles running with trains to Dyre is a waste.

SBS machines can also damage metrocards as well, and unlike the other bus routes, or even the subway, there is no one that can give you a courtesy ride while your card has a read error.

New subway schedules are up and show all changes from July until spring:

http://web.mta.info/nyct/service/pdf/t2cur.pdf

http://web.mta.info/nyct/service/pdf/t3cur.pdf

http://web.mta.info/nyct/service/pdf/t4cur.pdf

http://web.mta.info/nyct/service/pdf/t5cur.pdf

http://web.mta.info/nyct/service/pdf/tmcur.pdf

The schedules don't show the late Friday night early Saturday morning (extended service to Bowling Green) nor the early Monday morning service( to both 241 St and Dyre Av at the same time) Looks like MTA will have to run supplements each week then, unless MTA will cut back on the extended Dyre shuttles to Bowling Green on Friday nights.

Really? The local Bx12 B/O's kick people off the bus when you try to use an SBS ticket...

 

You can farebeat thru the back (and even the front) and they won't say anything, but if you flash the ol' SBS receipt, that's when they'll tell you to pay or get off. Go figure.

How about when the SBS stops running and the machines still give out tickets?