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The was going to go full length 14 years ago but the R44 retirement nixed those plans and spare factor is important to some degree. The R32s had a very high spare factor on the due to their age. CI R46's run like garbage because they have a very low spare factor on top of losing their R160s. So now they have the majority of the oldest fleet which needs a higher spare factor. Once congestion pricing kicks in, We are going to see some serious changes as the ridership shifts and changes overtime, This is why Option Order II is important. It wouldn't surprise me if a set or a group of cars have micro LEDs which are better and would really make those signs look like actual roll signs.

The Yankee specials use equipment and half of them run to WTC via 8th ave. In most cases the does get suspended but there are times during special events and Baseball season where they run special service using mostly equipment from the and half of those services use 8th ave. It's best they both get techs anyway and there are times where there are GOs where the goes via 8th ave so it's not just Culver.

With the way transit is, The will get techs, The re-routes on 8th ave is the main factor of the and getting techs. Yes they can still use older non cbtc equipment in CBTC areas but they don't want the road to get screwed up. So it makes sense just to give the and techs and get it over with plus 6th ave is going to have CBTC as well so it's killing 2 birds with one stone.

They are starting congestion pricing soon, They will cherry pick cars in the worse shape to go which would be a small amount. You guys want these gone while wants to start congestion pricing in June. It makes sense to keep the fleet going until spare factor is met and which ever extra service they can add on on the fly. You'll start seeing cars get stored if they don't need them but they need to keep cars instead of scrapping them until there's enough R211s to then start to scrap process. The Spare factor at CI is still low. Remember, CI doesn't have tech trains so spare factor has to be higher. Once Concourse gets tech trains, CIY will have a higher spare factor plus having techs for the and leftover techs for the and while all 3 of those lines will be dominated by R68s.

Pitkin cars are just dirty, That doesn't mean they are in bad shape. The R211s allow them to see more shop time while CI don't have that much since they need spares in which they are getting now. Overall, The pitkin ones are better maintained and were only terrible when they retired the R32s and had their spare factor reduced. This is nothing new, They do this when anything old. They did this with the R32s, Now with the R46s and then in the future it's going to be with the R68s.

Nah If that were the case, Jamaica or concourse would have gotten them before the and . The R211s on the and makes sense anyway esp the due to the bigger doors. The doesn't need R211s. It got the R160s brand new and is possibly getting them back ( when CI gets techs for the ) Anyway. They want these cars on lines that have or going to get CBTC. The Only broadway lines the R211s would make sense to be on is the and the .

It depends, Probably 24 more cars or more to increase the spare factor.

When they made the go via 63rd, It allowed them to add more and service. This is why you had the 4-5 trains out of 179th. They couldn't do this when both lines went via 53rd and back then the was all R32s while the was all R46s creating dwell times at lex and 53rd. Now with the and being all 60 tech trains, It could be possible with improvements with CBTC but as of right now it's best for them to leave as it is until they can fix the CBTC glitches.

I wouldn't jump the gun on that, They might be stripped some parts while awaiting new parts so i wouldn't list it as retired.

The could run to 21st queens bridge on nights and weekends meaning the is 24/7 in Manhattan. But the only drawback is less TPH on the / . The Drawback of the going via 53rd is the merge at Queens Plaza. Both have pros and Cons.

I told people this was going to happen as CI and concourse need spares before retirement starts.

They are going to need those extra cars since TA wants to add more service on the . This is why they are building or have built new substations on the carnarsie line to add capacity

No The R179s were intended to always be a separate order to replace R44s in which they did 7 years after the latter half that didn't get retired by the R160s. The supposed 3rd Option order of R160s Was to pretty much wipe out the remaining R44's and the R42s While The R179's Would have just been R32 replacements instead of R44 replacements. They Didn't want to pay out of pocket for More R160s since they needed like 300 More cars in order to replace the remaining R44 and R42 fleets. The going to 6th ave helped them deal with the shortage as more R46s that were on the along the 2 sets of R32s (these were swapped a month prior) went to the . CI also gained back their R160 sets as well as The lowest R160B Jamaica had was 9123. Those R160s replaced that 1 R32 set that was on the . Mods Please merge post with my previous one.

The R179's were never intended for the . The Majority of the R179's were always planned for the and . The 40 10 car units were for addtional service to push out cars to the . CI was never getting a oddball fleet of 40 R179 cars. The Plan was the get the 40 cars, The get the majority of the 8 car sets and the and get a small chunk. That all changed when they decided to give the the R179s first instead of the with ENY/207th splitting the 8 car units and them adding 16 more B cars to the last 18 4 car units that were turned into 18 5 car units.

The only thing I see moving out of pitkin first are some R46s to coney to increase their spares.