Nature Posted March 17, 2011 Share #1 Posted March 17, 2011 How come kawasaki train sets ( R142A R62A R160 and R143) brakes sqweek more then the bombardier train sets like R142 and R62? . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 17, 2011 Share #2 Posted March 17, 2011 Kawasaki was forced by the Squeaking Mice Union to install squeaking mice into the cars that are activated along with the brakes. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dman1455 Posted March 17, 2011 Share #3 Posted March 17, 2011 Kawasaki was forced by the Squeaking Mice Union to install squeaking mice into the cars that are activated along with the brakes. LOL! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nature Posted March 17, 2011 Author Share #4 Posted March 17, 2011 Lols really -.- no wonder it's a shitty company. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
dman1455 Posted March 17, 2011 Share #5 Posted March 17, 2011 Lols really -.- no wonder it's a shitty company. Excuse me!! Kawasaki is NOT a shitty company.. They made the R142A's and M8's. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nature Posted March 17, 2011 Author Share #6 Posted March 17, 2011 Must be me then cause the R142A on the line where i live i can hear the screeching from a mile away. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Posted March 17, 2011 Share #7 Posted March 17, 2011 It's hard to definitively pinpoint the source of a noise without..."interesting" ways to observe the equipment in-service. A squeaking noise during brake application could be: brake shoes brake "rigging" bolster yaw dampers etc... Now, i'm sure there's a guy in CED that knows exactly what causes it, but this shit ain't easy to figure out all the time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Nature Posted March 17, 2011 Author Share #8 Posted March 17, 2011 I thought it was cause of a dead motor. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vistausss Posted March 17, 2011 Share #9 Posted March 17, 2011 It's hard to definitively pinpoint the source of a noise without..."interesting" ways to observe the equipment in-service. A squeaking noise during brake application could be: brake shoes brake "rigging" bolster yaw dampers etc... Now, i'm sure there's a guy in CED that knows exactly what causes it, but this shit ain't easy to figure out all the time. Don't forget the flat wheels. Some M7's have flat wheels and that's what's causing the squeaking on the M7's. Could be the same here. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted March 17, 2011 Share #10 Posted March 17, 2011 It's hard to definitively pinpoint the source of a noise without..."interesting" ways to observe the equipment in-service. A squeaking noise during brake application could be: brake shoes brake "rigging" bolster yaw dampers etc... Now, i'm sure there's a guy in CED that knows exactly what causes it, but this shit ain't easy to figure out all the time. fratostats and freebishes, obviously... LOL Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ MC Posted March 18, 2011 Share #11 Posted March 18, 2011 Please, watch the Nazi Banksters Crimes Ripple Effect at http://jforjustice.co.uk/banksters Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted March 18, 2011 Share #12 Posted March 18, 2011 Wow, that "freebish" guy is a very successful troll. Look at how long it took for people to realize he was lying. Oh, they didn't. Some people tried to make jokes with it, though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted March 18, 2011 Share #13 Posted March 18, 2011 I think it has something to do with Kawasaki being a Japanese company. As I have read from Second Avenue Sagas many New Yorkers, and Americans are literally pissed that we didn't pick an American company to build the subway cars, and thus consider the trains not American, and they literally call it not American. To just say this most Americans even though I am one are extremely paranoid these days. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted March 18, 2011 Share #14 Posted March 18, 2011 Wow, that "freebish" guy is a very successful troll. Look at how long it took for people to realize he was lying. Oh, they didn't. Some people tried to make jokes with it, though. Foamers will believe anything if it comes from an MTA employee, and most are too dumb to know when someone is quite obviously joking, that's the sad part. That person's not a troll, just having fun at someone else's expense...and pointing out a rather glaring flaw in so called "railfan logic" Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted March 18, 2011 Share #15 Posted March 18, 2011 Oh, there are a few trolls on that section of the site. Godawful stuff. Joe's "answer" can cheer you up if your knowledge of trains and track infrastructure is even basic. If that doesn't help, the squeaking mouse thought will.. "The mice aren't paid enough to squeak as loud as they do..." Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
rr4567 Posted March 18, 2011 Share #16 Posted March 18, 2011 "The mice aren't paid enough to squeak as loud as they do..." Yes they are. They're paid in fresh cat meat Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Julio Posted March 18, 2011 Share #17 Posted March 18, 2011 I think it has something to do with Kawasaki being a Japanese company. As I have read from Second Avenue Sagas many New Yorkers, and Americans are literally pissed that we didn't pick an American company to build the subway cars, and thus consider the trains not American, and they literally call it not American. To just say this most Americans even though I am one are extremely paranoid these days.lulz what? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted March 18, 2011 Share #18 Posted March 18, 2011 Don't ask me just look it up. LOL shocking isn't it. People are pissed that we allow the Japanese people to build our stuff lmfao. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fan Railer Posted March 19, 2011 Share #19 Posted March 19, 2011 Sigh guys, always forgetting that individual components don't come from the same supplier. FYI, all breaking systems on the NTT's come from WABCO, which is US based. So don't go blaming japanese companies for stuff that's not perfect on the cars. The only difference between braking systems on certain models of the NTT's are here: R142, R160 - WABCO RT-5 R142A, R143 WABCO RT-96 The SMEE cars don't tend to squeal as much since their primary brakes are the tread brakes, so they are of a somewhat higher grade to withstand the greater heat exchange and friction. Older SMEE's (R32-R42) squeal more often because their wheels are more worn and have been through more mileage than the new SMEE's (R62-R68). Don't quote me on that one though, as that is only a logical explanation on my part. I would assume that should the trucks and wheelsets be replaced on the R32's and R42's through SMS, the squealing would go away for the time being. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOB2RTO Posted March 21, 2011 Share #20 Posted March 21, 2011 Must be me then cause the R142A on the line where i live i can hear the screeching from a mile away. A Division it is the worst. Sad for new trains, but it isn't Kawasaki's fault, that is just a maintenance issue, and well.......... I thought it was cause of a dead motor. That is where the brakes come into play. You have a dead motor, the friction brakes takes the place of the dead motors, since you have no dynamic braking with dead motors. You need live motors to have working dynamic braking. The line is usually dead motors, as you feel the difference when the train operates. Usually the car with the most bucking, and banging, when going and stopping, is the car with the dead motors............ For the OP, it is the Kawasaki R62. The Bombardier is the R62A......... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
harpomarx42 Posted March 21, 2011 Share #21 Posted March 21, 2011 Kawasaki was forced by the Squeaking Mice Union to install squeaking mice into the cars that are activated along with the brakes. Rumour has it these guys have those unions under their paws. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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