LRG Posted February 18, 2012 Share #826 Posted February 18, 2012 I do agree with you, though. The Prevosts do seem cheaply made. Ummm no they don't.... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted February 18, 2012 Share #827 Posted February 18, 2012 Cheaply made, maybe, but not being able to fit in the seats is not a reason for you to be mad. Why can't you be happy that your bus even showed up? 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted February 18, 2012 Share #828 Posted February 18, 2012 Cheaply made, maybe, but not being able to fit in the seats is not a reason for you to be mad. Why can't you be happy that your bus even showed up? Young man?? What in the world are you talking about?? The lines I ride usually don't have Prevosts, so I don't have that leg room issue, so long as I avoid the X1, X2 and X9, which has them. :cool: In any event, you're telling me you wouldn't be cranky if you got on a bus and had to smashed up in a seat for an hour with no legroom? Come on now!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted February 18, 2012 Share #829 Posted February 18, 2012 seen 262 on the B63 yesterday afternoon...after the fact that I rode that same bus home 10 hours prior on the B35 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted February 19, 2012 Share #830 Posted February 19, 2012 Ummm no they don't.... They do, they are really loud! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted February 19, 2012 Share #831 Posted February 19, 2012 They do, they are really loud! What does their loudness have to do with then being "cheaply" made? That's just the engine that makes it loud, not its build quality. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted February 19, 2012 Share #832 Posted February 19, 2012 Exactly. C40 lfs, the old one, are pretty loud, yet those runs just fine. Sounds don't indicate much. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted February 20, 2012 Share #833 Posted February 20, 2012 Seen my stalker again on the B35 today (go figure smh) I swear, one of these days I'll get a restraining order against that bus Exactly. C40 lfs, the old one, are pretty loud, yet those runs just fine. Sounds don't indicate much. Detroit Diesel engines are generally louder than their Cummins counterparts...and thats why I love them :cool: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Grand Concourse Posted February 20, 2012 Share #834 Posted February 20, 2012 I'm gonna miss them when the newer one starts pushing them out. I so would've preferred the O7 cngs to be bumped out instead 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted February 20, 2012 Share #835 Posted February 20, 2012 What does their loudness have to do with then being "cheaply" made? That's just the engine that makes it loud, not its build quality. Well the engine is just the icing on the cake. I agree that they are loud and it's not a pleasant loud either. Those Prevosts were a waste of money, and you know it's bad when I'm against new express buses. The would be much better off w/MCIs. I just feel for the folks that have to ride them because overall they don't like them and I've heard various comments about folks trying to avoid getting them. The seats are cramped even for average sized folks and everything looks cheap on that bus. A total ripoff for $5.50. :tdown: 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Acela Express Posted February 20, 2012 Share #836 Posted February 20, 2012 A total ripoff for $5.50. :tdown: Be happy it's $5.50 and not $10-15. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted February 20, 2012 Share #837 Posted February 20, 2012 Be happy it's $5.50 and not $10-15. How foolish of me... That's the motto at the ... Going your way - Things could always be worse... LOL We should never expect things to be as they should be. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Threxx Posted February 20, 2012 Share #838 Posted February 20, 2012 Well the engine is just the icing on the cake. I agree that they are loud and it's not a pleasant loud either. Those Prevosts were a waste of money, and you know it's bad when I'm against new express buses. The would be much better off w/MCIs. I just feel for the folks that have to ride them because overall they don't like them and I've heard various comments about folks trying to avoid getting them. The seats are cramped even for average sized folks and everything looks cheap on that bus. A total ripoff for $5.50. :tdown: Yeah, we know it's bad when you complain about express buses... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joel Up Front Posted February 20, 2012 Share #839 Posted February 20, 2012 On the other hand, if the panels on the buses you ride yield to your touch like they do on the NG CNGs, then you can comment on the craftsmanship... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted February 20, 2012 Share #840 Posted February 20, 2012 How foolish of me... That's the motto at the ... Going your way - Things could always be worse... LOL We should never expect things to be as they should be. If things were going the way they should be, the express bus system would have the same farebox recovery ratio as the local bus system, and the fare probably would be $10. (I'm not advocating for a fare hike, but I'm just sayin') 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted February 20, 2012 Share #841 Posted February 20, 2012 If things were going the way they should be, the express bus system would have the same farebox recovery ratio as the local bus system, and the fare probably would be $10. (I'm not advocating for a fare hike, but I'm just sayin') Yeah, stating the obvious... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted February 20, 2012 Share #842 Posted February 20, 2012 Well the engine is just the icing on the cake. I agree that they are loud and it's not a pleasant loud either. Those Prevosts were a waste of money, and you know it's bad when I'm against new express buses. The would be much better off w/MCIs. I just feel for the folks that have to ride them because overall they don't like them and I've heard various comments about folks trying to avoid getting them. The seats are cramped even for average sized folks and everything looks cheap on that bus. A total ripoff for $5.50. :tdown: Oh please...the MTA would be better off getting whatever they pleased other than catering to your whim because you like MCIs so much...as for me a Prevost blows the MCIs out the water. I hope we get more of them and push more MCIs out the door. Prevost leads the way! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted February 20, 2012 Share #843 Posted February 20, 2012 Oh please...the MTA would be better off getting whatever they pleased other than catering to your whim because you like MCIs so much...as for me a Prevost blows the MCIs out the water. I hope we get more of them and push more MCIs out the door. Prevost leads the way! I'm confused... I thought you said express buses were so expensive... Prevosts certainly aren't cheap in terms of price, but these were built like crap in terms of quality. I'm not worried... The will start ordering MCIs again once they come back to reality. God knows what they were thinking. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LRG Posted February 20, 2012 Share #844 Posted February 20, 2012 Yes they may be expensive but that doesn't mean I don't support ordering them for the areas that demands for it, unlike certain parts of the city where buses run every hour off peak and is carrying more air than passengers. Since Riverdale is your new home don't be shocked if the MTA ever orders suburban-styled local buses cuz if it were up to me the Bronx would have nothing but and I'd keep all the Prevosts to myself in SI. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted February 20, 2012 Share #845 Posted February 20, 2012 Yeah, stating the obvious... Well then stop complaining. If everything is running "as it should be", then you'd be worse off because the fares would be higher and there'd be less service on a bunch of routes (*cough**cough* BM4). 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted February 20, 2012 Share #846 Posted February 20, 2012 Well then stop complaining. If everything is running "as it should be", then you'd be worse off because the fares would be higher and there'd be less service on a bunch of routes (*cough**cough* BM4). What are you talking about??? I was talking about Prevosts, NOT about service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted February 20, 2012 Share #847 Posted February 20, 2012 What are you talking about??? I was talking about Prevosts, NOT about service. The comment was in reference to the price. He said "Be glad it's not $10-$15" and you said "The MTA's motto is that it could always be worse". But whatever, the overall discussion is about the Prevosts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted February 20, 2012 Share #848 Posted February 20, 2012 The comment was in reference to the price. He said "Be glad it's not $10-$15" and you said "The MTA's motto is that it could always be worse". But whatever, the overall discussion is about the Prevosts. Yes, please stop creating arguments about things that aren't being discussed. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted February 20, 2012 Share #849 Posted February 20, 2012 Yes, please stop creating arguments about things that aren't being discussed. Except that it was being discussed for those couple of posts. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Via Garibaldi 8 Posted February 20, 2012 Share #850 Posted February 20, 2012 Except that it was being discussed for those couple of posts. Yes, it was, just not by me. I was talking about specifically about the Prevosts, not about service. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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