Silver Script Posted March 5, 2014 Share #1476 Posted March 5, 2014 Are they plain white with the red, blue C on the side ? Or do they have the solid blue bottom ? It's pretty plain compared to how their few 5600's were that's for sure, but it still has the Coach USA logo on the sides. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busdude2 Posted March 5, 2014 Share #1477 Posted March 5, 2014 It's pretty plain compared to how their few 5600's were that's for sure, but it still has the Coach USA logo on the sides. Thanks 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busdude2 Posted March 5, 2014 Share #1478 Posted March 5, 2014 It's pretty plain compared to how their few 5600's were that's for sure, but it still has the Coach USA logo on the sides. Now I'm hearing the order is going higher to about 6614. That should replace all the RTS's. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
timo123 Posted March 6, 2014 Share #1479 Posted March 6, 2014 Now I'm hearing the order is going higher to about 6614. That should replace all the RTS's. Umm i don't think wee are getting 6600. I only see the 6500's coming. Well if there are 6600's, LET ME KNOW ASAP!!!!!!! 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busdude2 Posted March 6, 2014 Share #1480 Posted March 6, 2014 Umm i don't think wee are getting 6600. I only see the 6500's coming. Well if there are 6600's, LET ME KNOW ASAP!!!!!!! They have to go higher these RTS's wont last much longer. Orange still has quite a few rts buses running. Don't be surprised when they go higher than 6538 the original end of order. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted March 6, 2014 Share #1481 Posted March 6, 2014 (edited) They have to go higher these RTS's wont last much longer. Orange still has quite a few rts buses running. Don't be surprised when they go higher than 6538 the original end of order. Well for that to happen, they'd have to open up bids for (and award a contract to NABI or another builder for) new buses to go from 6538-6614 or whatever. The options on the current NABI order have run out, and they have to by law go through a new bid process to get however many new buses they need. The bid and the results of it have to be posted on the NJT procurement site, and AFAIK there's nothing there about any extra buses coming in. Basically, they can't just go to NABI and pay them for more buses without going through a bid process and especially not without telling the public about the contract on the NJT procurement site. Everything Transit orders from new buses to cleaning contracts has to get put up on that site. Edited March 6, 2014 by Orion VII 4 Life 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busdude2 Posted March 6, 2014 Share #1482 Posted March 6, 2014 (edited) Well for that to happen, they'd have to open up bids for (and award a contract to NABI or another builder for) new buses to go from 6538-6614 or whatever. The options on the current NABI order have run out, and they have to by law go through a new bid process to get however many new buses they need. The bid and the results of it have to be posted on the NJT procurement site, and AFAIK there's nothing there about any extra buses coming in. Basically, they can't just go to NABI and pay them for more buses without going through a bid process and especially not without telling the public about the contract on the NJT procurement site. Everything Transit orders from new buses to cleaning contracts has to get put up on that site. But nobody else makes a standard floor bus so bids are not needed. Nabi is it. We will see soon if they go higher than 6538 which i think they will. 6531 is already in service for Coach usa. Edited March 6, 2014 by busdude2 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted March 6, 2014 Share #1483 Posted March 6, 2014 But nobody else makes a standard floor bus so bids are not needed. Nabi is it. We will see soon if they go higher than 6538 which i think they will. 6531 is already in service for Coach usa. Doesn't matter. Still needs to go through the process, if any additional buses were are being bought it's a separate order since the options on this order have run out. NJT is obligated to put out an RFP for that and post everything on their procurement site. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busdude2 Posted March 6, 2014 Share #1484 Posted March 6, 2014 Ok we will see by the end of this month if they go beyond 6538. If not those rts's at Orange will be around much longer. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Silver Script Posted March 10, 2014 Share #1485 Posted March 10, 2014 Well Coach USA has 6499 since I saw it this morning on the 31. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busdude2 Posted March 10, 2014 Share #1486 Posted March 10, 2014 (edited) Well for that to happen, they'd have to open up bids for (and award a contract to NABI or another builder for) new buses to go from 6538-6614 or whatever. The options on the current NABI order have run out, and they have to by law go through a new bid process to get however many new buses they need. The bid and the results of it have to be posted on the NJT procurement site, and AFAIK there's nothing there about any extra buses coming in. Basically, they can't just go to NABI and pay them for more buses without going through a bid process and especially not without telling the public about the contract on the NJT procurement site. Everything Transit orders from new buses to cleaning contracts has to get put up on that site. Did some research the option did happen on June 9th 2011 the order was extended by 158 buses to cover all the remaining RTS buses and approved that day. I forgot all about that happening back then. The original order ended much earlier than 6538 so we will see how high they go. Edited March 10, 2014 by busdude2 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted March 10, 2014 Share #1487 Posted March 10, 2014 Did some research the option did happen on June 9th 2011 the order was extended by 158 buses to cover all the remaining RTS buses and approved that day. I forgot all about that happening back then. The original order ended much earlier than 6538 so we will see how high they go.Up to 6538 was the option. It was going to end even earlier. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted March 10, 2014 Share #1488 Posted March 10, 2014 This might be of some interest for the people doing the updates: Oradell is assisting Meadowlands with the 320 Meadowlands is assisting Ironbound with the 111 and 115 if needed Yours truly came to visit the old Meadowlands garage while I was on vacation from the hound. These changes were verified by my fellow bus operators at Meadowlands. Howell too, last week at the gardens, I saw a Howell MCI on the 111. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busdude2 Posted March 10, 2014 Share #1489 Posted March 10, 2014 Up to 6538 was the option. It was going to end even earlier. Well then what are they going to do with the remaining rts's with no replacements on order ? Orange still has a bunch some IBOA'S still have some too. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted March 11, 2014 Share #1490 Posted March 11, 2014 Well then what are they going to do with the remaining rts's with no replacements on order ? Orange still has a bunch some IBOA'S still have some too. I don't think they care about the PBLs... they don't need the Clever Devices or nothing like that. I still think eventually they'll shift the remaining RTSes to the PBLs for some of their NABIs. Or they could put Clever Devices in them and keep them for a couple years at NJT Bus Ops. Or they could make a separate new order to finish them off... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveragejoe Posted March 12, 2014 Share #1491 Posted March 12, 2014 I don't think they care about the PBLs... they don't need the Clever Devices or nothing like that. I still think eventually they'll shift the remaining RTSes to the PBLs for some of their NABIs. Or they could put Clever Devices in them and keep them for a couple years at NJT Bus Ops. Or they could make a separate new order to finish them off... You can not order any more 416's New Flyer already said its discontinued after this order is finished. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted March 12, 2014 Share #1492 Posted March 12, 2014 You can not order any more 416's New Flyer already said its discontinued after this order is finished. A separate order for another model that is... 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveragejoe Posted March 13, 2014 Share #1493 Posted March 13, 2014 Only high floor transit model still offered would be from El Dorado 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted March 13, 2014 Share #1494 Posted March 13, 2014 Only high floor transit model still offered would be from El DoradoDoesn't have to be high floor and really shouldn't. If there's another order I'm sure i'll be LFs unless NABI is willing to build the 416 one more time. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DaTransitMan4608 Posted March 13, 2014 Share #1495 Posted March 13, 2014 Only high floor transit model still offered would be from El Dorado Doesn't have to be high floor and really shouldn't. If there's another order I'm sure i'll be LFs unless NABI is willing to build the 416 one more time. Or god forbid they go with Gillig. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted March 13, 2014 Share #1496 Posted March 13, 2014 Or god forbid they go with Gillig. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Nah, you'd think it would probably be LFWs. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
theaveragejoe Posted March 13, 2014 Share #1497 Posted March 13, 2014 416 is out for 100% sure unless they went to NFI/NABI with a 1000 bus order 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cait Sith Posted March 18, 2014 Share #1498 Posted March 18, 2014 (edited) Well for that to happen, they'd have to open up bids for (and award a contract to NABI or another builder for) new buses to go from 6538-6614 or whatever. The options on the current NABI order have run out, and they have to by law go through a new bid process to get however many new buses they need. The bid and the results of it have to be posted on the NJT procurement site, and AFAIK there's nothing there about any extra buses coming in. Basically, they can't just go to NABI and pay them for more buses without going through a bid process and especially not without telling the public about the contract on the NJT procurement site. Everything Transit orders from new buses to cleaning contracts has to get put up on that site. If you really believe that, you might want to take a look at this then....photo credit goes to fellow member Nyctrman1278 Units seen here are ONE Bus bound. Ironbound is currently receiving another set as well. Order WILL end at 6614. A whole bunch of RTSs have been sent to the scrap lot with some at/some more heading to Olympia for NWK Airport Service. Edited March 18, 2014 by Cait Sith 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
busdude2 Posted March 18, 2014 Share #1499 Posted March 18, 2014 If you really believe that, you might want to take a look at this then....photo credit goes to fellow member Nyctrman1278 Units seen here are ONE Bus bound. Ironbound is currently receiving another set as well. Order WILL end at 6614. A whole bunch of RTSs have been sent to the scrap lot with some at/some more heading to Olympia for NWK Airport Service. I took a lot of heat for saying the order was going to 6614 nobody believed me. Proof positive thanks. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Orion VII 4 Life Posted March 18, 2014 Share #1500 Posted March 18, 2014 If you really believe that, you might want to take a look at this then....photo credit goes to fellow member Nyctrman1278 Units seen here are ONE Bus bound. Ironbound is currently receiving another set as well. Order WILL end at 6614. A whole bunch of RTSs have been sent to the scrap lot with some at/some more heading to Olympia for NWK Airport Service. Something's definitely been done wrong then... nothing about it on procurement at all. 0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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