pelhamlocal Posted January 8, 2012 Share #1 Posted January 8, 2012 In '88 the went to jamaica, i know, but for how long?thanks:) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sam Posted January 8, 2012 Share #2 Posted January 8, 2012 If memory serves me right, it was around 1994. My home station was Union Tpke. and I remember waiting for the one day during rush hours and finding out after a long wait that service had been discontinued. At about the same time, the® stop running late nights. I was waiting for one at Court Street at about 11pm and was told that late night service was discontinued. It's been awhile, but that's what I remember. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kacie Jane Posted January 8, 2012 Share #3 Posted January 8, 2012 The Wikipedia article on the R train says Jamaica service stopped October of 1992. It also gives September 30, 1990, as the date late night shuttle service started. This I can confirm is true, since I have that map in my collection. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted January 9, 2012 Share #4 Posted January 9, 2012 According to the Wikipedia article, when the went to 179th street, the didn't. So where did the terminate? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
checkmatechamp13 Posted January 9, 2012 Share #5 Posted January 9, 2012 According to the Wikipedia article, when the R went to 179th street, the F didn't. So where did the F terminate? They're wrong. The served the local stops between Forest Hills and 179th Street, and the only stopped at the express stations (Union Turnpike, Parsons Blvd, and 179th Street). I have (or had because I can't seem to find it) a map that shows it. It's either from 1990 or 1993. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted January 9, 2012 Share #6 Posted January 9, 2012 They're wrong. The served the local stops between Forest Hills and 179th Street, and the only stopped at the express stations (Union Turnpike, Parsons Blvd, and 179th Street). I have (or had because I can't seem to find it) a map that shows it. It's either from 1990 or 1993. Kind of on wright track checkmate(no fun intended lol) The ®ran 24/7 to/from 179/Hillside after the switch with the with it's Queens terminals between May 1987-September 1990. Then between Sept. '90-October 1992 the full time 24/7 terminal was Forest Hills. It was extended to 179th, rush hours only. After Oct. 1992, we had the current routing for nearly 20 years now. Hope everyone understands.:eek: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jimbob60 Posted January 9, 2012 Share #7 Posted January 9, 2012 When did Jamaica Center open as Queens terminus for the E? I cannot recall. Did the opening of that terminus prompt R service to 179th St. Back when both the E and F terminated at 179th St, the F ran express (Parsons, Union Tpke and Continental) while the E stopped at 169th, Van Wyck, 75th Ave in addition to the express stops. F express was daytime only, I am not sure about weekend service. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted January 9, 2012 Share #8 Posted January 9, 2012 When 169th street was the terminal was still 4 tracks and 2 side platforms? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted January 9, 2012 Share #9 Posted January 9, 2012 When 196th street was the terminal was still 4 tracks and 2 side platforms? No trains ever went to 196th. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest lance25 Posted January 9, 2012 Share #10 Posted January 9, 2012 When 196th street was the terminal was still 4 tracks and 2 side platforms? No trains ever went to 196th. He probably meant 169 St. And I believe the answer to your question N6 is yes. The station layout was the same when 169 St was the terminal for those 13 years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
N6 Limited Posted January 9, 2012 Share #11 Posted January 9, 2012 No trains ever went to 196th. He probably meant 169 St. And I believe the answer to your question N6 is yes. The station layout was the same when 169 St was the terminal for those 13 years. Yes I meant 169th street. Thanks! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe From Greenpernt Posted January 10, 2012 Share #12 Posted January 10, 2012 They're wrong. The served the local stops between Forest Hills and 179th Street, and the only stopped at the express stations (Union Turnpike, Parsons Blvd, and 179th Street). I have (or had because I can't seem to find it) a map that shows it. It's either from 1990 or 1993. From the Wikipedia article on the Train late night service: On May 24, 1987, the N and R services switched terminals in Queens. As part of the reroute plan, F trains terminated at 57th Street / Sixth Avenue during late nights. On September 30, 1990, the R train was cut back from 179th Street to 71st Avenue, and replaced by the F train. Later that year, late-night service was moved to 21st Street – Queensbridge to replace the Q shuttle. I hated to get out at 21st-Queensbridge at 2 A.M. :tdown: and have to walk back to Jackson Ave./QP in order to catch the B61 to Greenpoint. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
TriboroughBridge Posted January 10, 2012 Share #13 Posted January 10, 2012 When did Jamaica Center open as Queens terminus for the E? I cannot recall. Did the opening of that terminus prompt R service to 179th St. Back when both the E and F terminated at 179th St, the F ran express (Parsons, Union Tpke and Continental) while the E stopped at 169th, Van Wyck, 75th Ave in addition to the express stops. F express was daytime only, I am not sure about weekend service. Jamaica Center opened in 1988, not sure date & month. In those days, (before Jamaica Center), if I'm correct, the ran express from Queens Plaza, till 71 Ave, 24/7. The ran full express from 21 St, till 71 ave, all times except nights. & express from 71 Ave till 179 St, weekdays only. Correct me if I'm wrong. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted January 10, 2012 Share #14 Posted January 10, 2012 Jamaica Center opened in 1988, not sure date & month. In those days, (before Jamaica Center), if I'm correct, the ran express from Queens Plaza, till 71 Ave, 24/7. The ran full express from 21 St, till 71 ave, all times except nights. & express from 71 Ave till 179 St, weekdays only. Correct me if I'm wrong. The 63 Street tunnel wasn't connected to Queens Boulevard before 2001. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted January 10, 2012 Share #15 Posted January 10, 2012 Jamaica Center opened in 1988, not sure date & month. In those days, (before Jamaica Center), if I'm correct, the ran express from Queens Plaza, till 71 Ave, 24/7. The ran full express from 21 St, till 71 ave, all times except nights. & express from 71 Ave till 179 St, weekdays only. Correct me if I'm wrong. Man kiddies LOL please ask me some of the stuff on NYC subway events lol. I may not know everything but most of the major subway events since 1980 I remember well.(smile) The did not serve the 63rd st tunnel until Dec. 2001. It was December 11, 1988 that the and the served the Archer Ave stations. The Queens Blvd service patterns Dec. 12, 1988-Fall 1990.. Weekdays ran as QB Local to/from 179. (F)ran as QB/Hillside express 179-Queens Plaza. (E)ran as QB express Jamaica/Van Wyck-Queens Plaza. Weekday evenings(8pm-12 Midnight) and Weekends ®same. (E)Express Jamaica/Van Wyck-Queens Plaza. (F)Hillside Local 179-Forest Hills Express Forest Hills-Queens Plaza. The Queens Blvd service patterns Fall 1990-Oct 1992 Weekday Rush Hours extended to 179th. Express Jamaica/Van Wyck-Queens Plaza. (F)Hillside/QB express 179th-Queens Plaza. Weekdays middays and evenings(until 9pm) ®to/from Forest Hills (E)express Jamaica/Van Wyck-Queens Plaza (F)Local 179th-Hillside-Forest Hills. Weekends and 9pm-Midnight Weekdays express Queens Plaza-Forest Hills. Hope it clears it up. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted January 10, 2012 Share #16 Posted January 10, 2012 Man kiddies LOL please ask me some of the stuff on NYC subway events lol. I may not know everything but most of the major subway events since 1980 I remember well.(smile) The did not serve the 63rd st tunnel until Dec. 2001. It was December 11, 1988 that the and the served the Archer Ave stations. The Queens Blvd service patterns Dec. 12, 1988-Fall 1990.. Weekdays ran as QB Local to/from 179. (F)ran as QB/Hillside express 179-Queens Plaza. (E)ran as QB express Jamaica/Van Wyck-Queens Plaza. Weekday evenings(8pm-12 Midnight) and Weekends ®same. (E)Express Jamaica/Van Wyck-Queens Plaza. (F)Hillside Local 179-Forest Hills Express Forest Hills-Queens Plaza. The Queens Blvd service patterns Fall 1990-Oct 1992 Weekday Rush Hours extended to 179th. Express Jamaica/Van Wyck-Queens Plaza. (F)Hillside/QB express 179th-Queens Plaza. Weekdays middays and evenings(until 9pm) ®to/from Forest Hills (E)express Jamaica/Van Wyck-Queens Plaza (F)Local 179th-Hillside-Forest Hills. Weekends and 9pm-Midnight Weekdays express Queens Plaza-Forest Hills. Hope it clears it up. More than clear enough… Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe From Greenpernt Posted January 11, 2012 Share #17 Posted January 11, 2012 Man kiddies LOL please ask me some of the stuff on NYC subway events lol. I may not know everything but most of the major subway events since 1980 I remember well.(smile) The did not serve the 63rd st tunnel until Dec. 2001. It was December 11, 1988 that the and the served the Archer Ave stations. The Queens Blvd service patterns Dec. 12, 1988-Fall 1990.. Weekdays ran as QB Local to/from 179. (F)ran as QB/Hillside express 179-Queens Plaza. (E)ran as QB express Jamaica/Van Wyck-Queens Plaza. Weekday evenings(8pm-12 Midnight) and Weekends ®same. (E)Express Jamaica/Van Wyck-Queens Plaza. (F)Hillside Local 179-Forest Hills Express Forest Hills-Queens Plaza. The Queens Blvd service patterns Fall 1990-Oct 1992 Weekday Rush Hours extended to 179th. Express Jamaica/Van Wyck-Queens Plaza. (F)Hillside/QB express 179th-Queens Plaza. Weekdays middays and evenings(until 9pm) ®to/from Forest Hills (E)express Jamaica/Van Wyck-Queens Plaza (F)Local 179th-Hillside-Forest Hills. Weekends and 9pm-Midnight Weekdays express Queens Plaza-Forest Hills. Hope it clears it up. Actually, not at all. You must've been busy doing something else when this service change was effected. The 63rd St. tunnel went operational on 10/29/1989, along with the 63rd St.-Lexington Ave., Roosevelt Island and 21st St-Queensbridge stations. 21st St.-Queensbridge was originally a terminal stop for B/Q and late night service. I know that the stopped at 21st-Queensbridge because I had to take that train every night, M-F, when that service change was in effect. What the didn't serve was the 63rd St. Connector, which bypassed Queens Plaza and connected with the express tracks to Roosevelt Avenue. That final section, from 21st St.-Queensbridge, opened for service on 12/16/2001. For further reading, go HERE, HERE, HERE and HERE (fourth paragraph down, in the right hand column). Your listed service patterns were good only through the fall of 1990. The to 21st ST.-Queensbridge service change went into effect December 1990. You can wipe that grin off your face now. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted January 11, 2012 Share #18 Posted January 11, 2012 Actually, not at all. You must've been busy doing something else when this service change was effected. The 63rd St. tunnel went operational on 10/29/1989, along with the 63rd St.-Lexington Ave., Roosevelt Island and 21st St-Queensbridge stations. 21st St.-Queensbridge was originally a terminal stop for B/Q and late night service. I know that the stopped at 21st-Queensbridge because I had to take that train every night, M-F, when that service change was in effect. What the didn't serve was the 63rd St. Connector, which bypassed Queens Plaza and connected with the express tracks to Roosevelt Avenue. That final section, from 21st St.-Queensbridge, opened for service on 12/16/2001. "]HERE[/url] (fourth paragraph down, in the right hand column). Your listed service patterns were good only through the fall of 1990. The to 21st ST.-Queensbridge service change went into effect December 1990. You can wipe that grin off your face now. Actually I was talking about full time daily 6am-Midnight service my friend. I never mentioned about the overnight service to avoid confusion. And the did not go full time 24/7 on 63rd until 2001. That a fact.:tup: Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe From Greenpernt Posted January 11, 2012 Share #19 Posted January 11, 2012 Actually I was talking about full time daily 6am-Midnight service my friend. I never mentioned about the overnight service to avoid confusion. And the did not go full time 24/7 on 63rd until 2001. That a fact.:tup: Never said it did. I only pointed out that the did, in fact, terminate at 21st St.-Queensbridge and when the ability to use the completed connector occured. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted January 11, 2012 Share #20 Posted January 11, 2012 Never said it did. I only pointed out that the did, in fact, terminate at 21st St.-Queensbridge and when the ability to use the completed connector occured. Oh well. I do miss the White Castle at 170th/Hillside(it was closed last time i was in area summer of 2010)but maybe reopened).:cool: And the along QB. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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