KeystoneRegional Posted May 3, 2012 Share #1 Posted May 3, 2012 NBC 4 New York - " Vogue magazine, perhaps the world's top arbiter of style, is making a statement about its own models: too thin is no longer in. The 19 editors of Vogue magazines around the world made a pact to project the image of healthy models, according to a Conde Nast International announcement. They agreed to "not knowingly work with models under the age of 16 or who appear to have an eating disorder," and said they will ask casting directors to check IDs at photo shoots and fashion shows and for ad campaigns. American, French, Chinese and British editions of the fashion glossies are among those that will start following the new guidelines with their June issues; the Japanese edition will begin with its July book. "Vogue believes that good health is beautiful. Vogue Editors around the world want the magazines to reflect their commitment to the health of the models who appear on the pages and the well-being of their readers," said Conde Nast International Chairman Jonathan Newhouse in a statement. Models' health — and especially their weight — has been a lightning rod the past few years, especially after the death of two models from apparent complications from eating disorders in 2006-07, but the focus, until now, has been on runway fashion shows. The Council of Fashion Designers of America adopted a voluntary initiative in 2007, which emphasizes age minimums and healthy working environments during New York Fashion Week, and London Fashion Week designers sign a contract with the British Fashion Council to use models who are at least 16. The primary fashion organizations in Italy and Spain banned catwalk models who fall below a certain Body Mass Index level, and earlier this year, Israel's government passed an anti-skinny-model law. Still, there is persistent criticism that the fashion world creates a largely unattainable and unhealthy standard that particularly affects impressionable young girls. Source Link: http://www.nbcnewyor...-150077795.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted May 5, 2012 Share #2 Posted May 5, 2012 I'll try to give life to this thread: 1) Well, Too much veggies & not enough protein (on top of emesis) will do that to ya...... ...and I don't care what anyone says, the criteria the Europeans set as far as standard of beauty goes, is to eliminate as many black (and hispanic also) women as possible..... White women will damn near starve themselves to become "models", small in part, because many white women know that being fat is the ultimate kiss of death... especially when it comes to dating/mating.... that's the one thing I'll give props to a lot of white guys on; they don't play that "ooh baby, you thick" BS...... You aint gettin too many black women willing to damn near starve themselves to become models b/c it would have the exact opposite affect.... being too skinny & having no curves will eliminate that broad for most black men.... It is noooo accident that the phenomenon of urban whoring modeling has flourished & plus size modeling slowly on the come up...... 2) This (the supposed ban) is going to open the floodgates for even more women to want to become models.... bad enough you have so many phuck-ups out here that wanna become "models" enough as it is..... To me, in 2012, "modeling" has become the gateway to softcore porn.... which is the gateway to hardcore porn.... I'm not name dropping since there are kids on this forum...... "Modeling" has lost all respectability AFAIC.... from the sad saps on QVC that end up becoming hand models showcasing cheap jewelry, to the smuts you see ending up baring it all (and on film gettin it in) as their "career" progresses.... pfft.... "modeling".... it's all survival of the fittest.... Women aint goin wanna hear this, but..... Gotta keep the men satisfied, right..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share #3 Posted May 6, 2012 I'll try to give life to this thread: 1) Well, Too much veggies & not enough protein (on top of emesis) will do that to ya...... ...and I don't care what anyone says, the criteria the Europeans set as far as standard of beauty goes, is to eliminate as many black (and hispanic also) women as possible..... White women will damn near starve themselves to become "models", small in part, because many white women know that being fat is the ultimate kiss of death... especially when it comes to dating/mating.... that's the one thing I'll give props to a lot of white guys on; they don't play that "ooh baby, you thick" BS...... You aint gettin too many black women willing to damn near starve themselves to become models b/c it would have the exact opposite affect.... being too skinny & having no curves will eliminate that broad for most black men.... It is noooo accident that the phenomenon of urban whoring modeling has flourished & plus size modeling slowly on the come up...... 2) This (the supposed ban) is going to open the floodgates for even more women to want to become models.... bad enough you have so many phuck-ups out here that wanna become "models" enough as it is..... To me, in 2012, "modeling" has become the gateway to softcore porn.... which is the gateway to hardcore porn.... I'm not name dropping since there are kids on this forum...... "Modeling" has lost all respectability AFAIC.... from the sad saps on QVC that end up becoming hand models showcasing cheap jewelry, to the smuts you see ending up baring it all (and on film gettin it in) as their "career" progresses.... pfft.... "modeling".... it's all survival of the fittest.... Women aint goin wanna hear this, but..... Gotta keep the men satisfied, right..... Well, either way, despite what the people overseas do in said Country and Continent, and the satisfaction men get watching these models showing excessive skin. I still think this move by Vogue a Conde-Nast Company, is a great move. Because Veggies won't cause you to be so skinny [i know several friends who eat only Vegetables, and they are not skinny like these models]. Eating-Disorder is the cause and it's not okay to tell ladies to starve themselves to attract men, it's simply not okay. Keeping this thing going is not okay and good for the Youth too. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted May 6, 2012 Share #4 Posted May 6, 2012 Well, either way, despite what the people overseas do in said Country and Continent, and the satisfaction men get watching these models showing excessive skin. I still think this move by Vogue a Conde-Nast Company, is a great move. Because Veggies won't cause you to be so skinny [i know several friends who eat only Vegetables, and they are not skinny like these models]. Eating-Disorder is the cause and it's not okay to tell ladies to starve themselves to attract men, it's simply not okay. Keeping this thing going is not okay and good for the Youth too. Good for you, but I didn't say a damn thing about it being "okay" or keeping it going.... Yeah, eating disorders are the main cause.... but there are a myriad of these anoxrexic, malnourished, skeleton-resembling women out here that resort to veggie based diets (for one) in aid of gettin as skinny as possible..... You can come to the defense of said folks if you want; these aren't people that are exactly in a rush to ingest the necessary amt. of protein..... The idea is is eliminate as much body fat as possible so that these sticks can maneuver what flesh & blood is left on their bones down a runway..... Nevermind the clothing they're "modeling"..... I mentioned emesis, which comes with eating disorders....... Didn't think I had to spell that out. Average person isn't intentionally & forcibly inducing vomiting to maintain a ridiculous "modeling" standard..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Shortline Bus Posted May 6, 2012 Share #5 Posted May 6, 2012 Not trying to change the subject lol but here a controversial(also great spoof of the profession of "Modeling" biz)and smash #1 hit from the early 1990's "Baby Got Back." Even 20 years later, many of the same issues and sterotypes exists in the modeling world that been discussed in recent article Keystone posted. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kY84MRnxVzo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted May 6, 2012 Share #6 Posted May 6, 2012 This is already law in Europe. In Europe if you are too skinny or fat you can't be a model. If you are too skinny you give a bad impression on woman, and if you are too fat I will let you connect the dots. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted May 6, 2012 Share #7 Posted May 6, 2012 Even 20 years later, many of the same issues and sterotypes exists in the modeling world that been discussed in recent article Keystone posted. Exactly what I was referring to when I mentioned the euro standard of beauty..... It all indirectly tells women that if your body fat is noticable & you have pronounced curves, forget about making it in the "modeling" world..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted May 6, 2012 Author Share #8 Posted May 6, 2012 Good for you, but I didn't say a damn thing about it being "okay" or keeping it going.... Yeah, eating disorders are the main cause.... but there are a myriad of these anoxrexic, malnourished, skeleton-resembling women out here that resort to veggie based diets (for one) in aid of gettin as skinny as possible..... You can come to the defense of said folks if you want; these aren't people that are exactly in a rush to ingest the necessary amt. of protein..... The idea is is eliminate as much body fat as possible so that these sticks can maneuver what flesh & blood is left on their bones down a runway..... Nevermind the clothing they're "modeling"..... I mentioned emesis, which comes with eating disorders....... Didn't think I had to spell that out. Average person isn't intentionally & forcibly inducing vomiting to maintain a ridiculous "modeling" standard..... Whatever self-caused practices you mentioned to trim down fat intentionally for modeling is not okay. If it is a disability or some kinda DNA related issue, I wouldn't blame on the person modeling. However purposely malnourishing oneself and being so thin like basically size 1 or below is not okay, and body fat is actually good for a body, but you have to let it be at a perfect medium, that's what most models lack and I am not liking it. Also, critics who criticizes the models being a bit fat is ridiculous, these critics doesn't know a sh!t about health and wellness. And what they are causing is more stress, anxiety and depression for those who have curves even though they are actually fit. This is already law in Europe. In Europe if you are too skinny or fat you can't be a model. If you are too skinny you give a bad impression on woman, and if you are too fat I will let you connect the dots. Exactly what I was referring to when I mentioned the euro standard of beauty..... It all indirectly tells women that if your body fat is noticable & you have pronounced curves, forget about making it in the "modeling" world..... If your body fat is too excessive, obviously no clothing company will want you on the runway, however if you're too skinny and they allow you on, it's simply promoting bad health and lifestyle. Having some curves is fine and actually are more accepted now-days. I think Europe did the right thing, barring the too thin because it is simply wrong and bad for the tween and teen girls to follow, I can't stress it no more. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
B35 via Church Posted May 6, 2012 Share #9 Posted May 6, 2012 Why are you stressing anything @ me to begin with; we're basically saying the same shit about these women.... No one here is advocating for women to damn near kill themselves to get to the level of skinny it takes to be accepted to become a "model" these days...... these critics doesn't know a sh!t about health and wellness. Yeah, they don't give a shit about the "models" well being either.... Critics definitely don't, and suppliers of a product seldom do.... For all I care, these clothing designers can used perfectly carved/shaped mannequins in their "modeling" shows... But of course, that aint goin draw outsiders to want to attend such shows; as they're there to see the women just as much as they're to view whatever line of clothing or whatever...... Personally I don't see how anyone can go to those shows, as they're a complete & utter bore IMO; attractive women present or not...... Vogue can do what it wants; yes it's obviously a step in the right direction.... However, I'm not gonna go all apeshit & sing kumbaya b/c they are banning overly skinny women from their mags.... Fact of the matter is, you're still gonna have women taking extreme measures to get a leg up on their perceived and/or real competition...... If Vogue could only control that reality..... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
lilbluefoxie Posted May 6, 2012 Share #10 Posted May 6, 2012 it don't bother me, I like the plus sizes *giggles* Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted May 7, 2012 Share #11 Posted May 7, 2012 This is already law in Europe. In Europe if you are too skinny or fat you can't be a model. You know what, I really doubt that's the law. In fact if there is actually a written law in Europe about weight restrictions on being a model, go on and send that one to me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted May 7, 2012 Share #12 Posted May 7, 2012 Spain: http://articles.cnn.com/2006-09-13/world/spain.models_1_association-of-fashion-designers-skinny-models-pasarela-cibeles?_s=PM:WORLD Israel: http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-17450275 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
KeystoneRegional Posted May 7, 2012 Author Share #13 Posted May 7, 2012 Why are you stressing anything @ me to begin with; we're basically saying the same shit about these women.... No one here is advocating for women to damn near kill themselves to get to the level of skinny it takes to be accepted to become a "model" these days...... Yeah, they don't give a shit about the "models" well being either.... Critics definitely don't, and suppliers of a product seldom do.... For all I care, these clothing designers can used perfectly carved/shaped mannequins in their "modeling" shows... But of course, that aint goin draw outsiders to want to attend such shows; as they're there to see the women just as much as they're to view whatever line of clothing or whatever...... Personally I don't see how anyone can go to those shows, as they're a complete & utter bore IMO; attractive women present or not...... Vogue can do what it wants; yes it's obviously a step in the right direction.... However, I'm not gonna go all apeshit & sing kumbaya b/c they are banning overly skinny women from their mags.... Fact of the matter is, you're still gonna have women taking extreme measures to get a leg up on their perceived and/or real competition...... If Vogue could only control that reality..... Oh got it, [mental note: need to sleep], =P... But the thing is, Vogue doing this will set a milestone for people not killing their health and wellness in order to look "slim and sexy" to a point where they are too skinny to some eyes. It's kinda like also telling people to feel natural and keep your body healthy and nourished. In a different sense, Vogue is basically starting a trend perhaps, because look, if Vogue is New York State, and the legislation is to ban too skinnyness, same for the allowance of gay marriage. Perhaps Glamour, Esquire or GQ could be Washington State. it don't bother me, I like the plus sizes *giggles* LOL, cool! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MHV9218 Posted May 7, 2012 Share #14 Posted May 7, 2012 Spain: http://articles.cnn....les?_s=PM:WORLD Israel: http://www.bbc.co.uk...e-east-17450275 Okay, those are policies about keeping models with eating disorders off runways. I really wanna see this code about being legally "too fat to be a model" though... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Roadcruiser1 Posted May 8, 2012 Share #15 Posted May 8, 2012 Okay, those are policies about keeping models with eating disorders off runways. I really wanna see this code about being legally "too fat to be a model" though... There is no law against fat people being models sorry for the confusion, but what I meant was magazine companies might not hire fat people... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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