MassTransitHonchkrow Posted August 27, 2017 Share #26 Posted August 27, 2017 I'll be 41 then. More depressing than turning 37 this past Tuesday. Happy belated birthday Eric Shields | MassTransitHonchkrow Proud EasyPay Express Unlimited Customer - PPR mode Level 5 Google Local Guide for Southern NY State Check out my photography, DeskThemePacks and more - https://masstransithonchkrow.deviantart.com/gallery Sent from my HP ENVY m6 Notebook PC using Tapatalk using Remix OS Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted August 27, 2017 Author Share #27 Posted August 27, 2017 You mean to serve Red Hook?The could return as a skip stop and at 137 or 145 Sts, it could run peak express (downtown during AM hours and uptown during PM hours) Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Union Tpke Posted August 27, 2017 Share #28 Posted August 27, 2017 I'll be 20 years old by that time. Here's what I think would happen in 2021. -Subway expansion is being seriously considered to meet up with capacity. -Last of the old IND/BMT train cars (R32, R42, and R46) retiring from service by the R211s. SIR R44 are also being retired by the R211 version for the railroad. -R179's dominate most of B division. I don't 300 cars out of 3500 is dominating. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share #29 Posted August 28, 2017 How I think the fleet will become by 2021 R62/R62A R142 R62 R142/R142A R142 R62A/R142A R62A/R188 R68A/R179/R211A R68A/R211T R160/R179 R68 R160 R160/R211T R68/R68A R143/R160/R179 R143/R160 R160 R68/R160 R160 R211A / R62A/R68/R211A Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConcourseExp Posted August 28, 2017 Share #30 Posted August 28, 2017 Didn't know this was still active but....hey. Here goes nothing. With the speed the MTA is running at, repairing signals and tracks will still be a viable issue. You can't just expect a plan to be thrown at contractors and board members and everything will be fine. The subway system will still be more or less breaking down at a steady rate, but hopefully it won't cause major issues. Second, the express!!! Don't get me wrong....I love taking the Burnside Ave-bound trains from school everyday but knowing that I go to school in East Harlem, it would be nice to have a service for not just me, but people who live on or close to the express station stops. That's just my take on it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
quadcorder Posted August 28, 2017 Share #31 Posted August 28, 2017 How I think the fleet will become by 2021 R62/R62A R142 R62 R142/R142A R142 R62A/R142A R62A/R188 R68A/R179/R211A R68A/R211T R160/R179 R68 R160 R160/R211T R68/R68A R143/R160/R179 R143/R160 R160 R68/R160 R160 R211A / R62A/R68/R211A Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk I agree except, 7 will be only R188 for CBTC reasons, so 6 may only be R62A. A currently only runs one R68A, so I'd assume it won't be running there. B doesn't get packed enough to warrant R211T trials, so I expect they'll be used on the E and F trains. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share #32 Posted August 28, 2017 I agree except, 7 will be only R188 for CBTC reasons, so 6 may only be R62A. A currently only runs one R68A, so I'd assume it won't be running there. B doesn't get packed enough to warrant R211T trials, so I expect they'll be used on the E and F trains.Ok, so the could get normal R211A's then Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share #33 Posted August 28, 2017 Didn't know this was still active but....hey. Here goes nothing. With the speed the MTA is running at, repairing signals and tracks will still be a viable issue. You can't just expect a plan to be thrown at contractors and board members and everything will be fine. The subway system will still be more or less breaking down at a steady rate, but hopefully it won't cause major issues. Second, the express!!! Don't get me wrong....I love taking the Burnside Ave-bound trains from school everyday but knowing that I go to school in East Harlem, it would be nice to have a service for not just me, but people who live on or close to the express station stops. That's just my take on it.Keep in mind, this Thread is only a prediction towards how the subway will be like in 2021, if you have any ideas, suggestions, or even questions then feel free to type Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConcourseExp Posted August 28, 2017 Share #34 Posted August 28, 2017 Keep in mind, this Thread is only a prediction towards how the subway will be like in 2021, if you have any ideas, suggestions, or even questions then feel free to type Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk Okay....let me rephrase that for a second. I PREDICT that more express services will be made possible for people living in populated areas in the city but reoccurring track issues will put that on hold. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share #35 Posted August 28, 2017 Okay....let me rephrase that for a second. I PREDICT that more express services will be made possible for people living in populated areas in the city but reoccurring track issues will put that on hold.Okay, give an example then Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConcourseExp Posted August 28, 2017 Share #36 Posted August 28, 2017 Okay, give an example then Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk You're joking, right? I gave an example in my first response. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share #37 Posted August 28, 2017 You're joking, right? I gave an example in my first response.Oh, sorry then. I do agree with that statement. But since I BARELY go to the Bronx (especially by train), I wouldn't know entirely besides, more express service in heavily populated areas is needed, if the line has only 2 tracks/or only uses 2 tracks then skip stop would be the answer for that line Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConcourseExp Posted August 28, 2017 Share #38 Posted August 28, 2017 Oh, sorry then. I do agree with that statement. But since I BARELY go to the Bronx (especially by train), I wouldn't know entirely besides, more express service in heavily populated areas is needed, if the line has only 2 tracks/or only uses 2 tracks then skip stop would be the answer for that line Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk It has three tracks. That's why the idea isn't as complicated as it seems. Besides, even if the Jerome Avenue Line ONLY had two tracks, I wouldn't advocate for a skip-stop service to be placed. More local stations + three express stations + 8 minute frequency = express service. Simple. You should look up the pilot program that the went through about eight years ago. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share #39 Posted August 28, 2017 It has three tracks. That's why the idea isn't as complicated as it seems. Besides, even if the Jerome Avenue Line ONLY had two tracks, I wouldn't advocate for a skip-stop service to be placed. More local stations + three express stations + 8 minute frequency = express service. Simple. You should look up the pilot program that the went through about eight years ago.I know about it, I know that the IRT Jerome Avenue line has 3 tracks. I'm saying that whatever line has only 2 tracks with heavy ridership could gain skip tstop similar to the Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
ConcourseExp Posted August 28, 2017 Share #40 Posted August 28, 2017 I know about it, I know that the IRT Jerome Avenue line has 3 tracks. I'm saying that whatever line has only 2 tracks with heavy ridership could gain skip t stop similar to the Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk Okay...but what's your point? Let's just leave it that the fact that different parts of the subway system have either two or three tracks to operate with (the ones without express service). Given those numbers, different tactics would be used to lower commute times. I'm just pointing out the line could be the one to consider those options during rush hours. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted August 28, 2017 Author Share #41 Posted August 28, 2017 Ok Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RR503 Posted August 28, 2017 Share #42 Posted August 28, 2017 I know about it, I know that the IRT Jerome Avenue line has 3 tracks. I'm saying that whatever line has only 2 tracks with heavy ridership could gain skip t stop similar to the Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk Skip stop is better for low ridership sections. If you were trying to give good service to those at skip stop stations, you'd give them full service because halving wait times does much more for commutes than slowly bypassing stations. Skip stop exists on the J solely because the MTA vainly hopes that they can use it to lure people from Jamaica off the E. You'll see when they eliminated skip stop on the Chicago L ridership climbed through the roof. People want frequency. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted September 1, 2017 Author Share #43 Posted September 1, 2017 I see this thread hasn't been active for about a few day so might as well do a revized fleet assignment R62A R142 R62 R142/R142A R142 R62A/R142A R188 R179/R211A R68A/R211A R160A -1/ R179 R68 R160A-2/R211T R160A-2/R211T R68/R68A R160A-1/R179 R143/R160A-1 R160A-1 R160A-2/R160B R160A-2/R160B R211A R62A/R68/R211A Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
CenSin Posted September 12, 2017 Share #44 Posted September 12, 2017 This whole thread could be subsumed by the official proposals thread. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
LGA Link N Train Posted September 12, 2017 Author Share #45 Posted September 12, 2017 This whole thread could be subsumed by the official proposals thread.The whole point of this thread is or predict the future of the subway system explain what it will be like in 2021. Proposals can be made here but must be realistic or must be leaked by the MTA. The proposals/Ideas thread is in on its own. I want this thread to be its own separate entity Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Fresh Pond Posted September 12, 2017 Share #46 Posted September 12, 2017 The whole point of this thread is or predict the future of the subway system explain what it will be like in 2021. Proposals can be made here but must be realistic or must be leaked by the MTA. The proposals/Ideas thread is in on its own. I want this thread to be its own separate entity Sent from my SM-G386T using Tapatalk That's not how it works here. CenSin is right, this could've easily went into the proposals thread. It's only 4 years away, that's quite arbitrary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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