Maserati7200 Posted March 5, 2009 Share #1 Posted March 5, 2009 The R142A's from Westchester Yard and R142's from East 180th street yard are in very bad condition, its horrible. At this point, I believe the R62's/R62A's are in better condition than the R142/A's. Everytime I ride an IRT NTT, its extremely dirty -- both inside and out, the bucking is horrible, the brakes are getting worse as we speak. Now if you're one of those anti-NTT people you might say "oh its because the NTT's don' last long and now they are breaking". Well the R143's, which have been here the same amount of time, are doing great last time I checked. Now the uses a yard in the Bronx and its cars are good, so the culprits are Westchester and East 180th. Now the question is.. why? Does anyone high up in the MTA realize what is going on? The R142/A's lives are being shortened because of this. Why aren't they yards doing their job? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted March 5, 2009 Share #2 Posted March 5, 2009 Well it's not because they can't maintain the cars, it's because they can't keep up with the vandals who are messing up everything. That's my opinion. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
trainfan22 Posted March 5, 2009 Share #3 Posted March 5, 2009 I think the E180th ST yard has the best maintnence in the IRT. They keep thier cars in like new condidtion, the and lines yards don't come far behind. As for the worst I'd say Livonia yard, nearly every R62 trainset on the has an dead motor. As for the line yard I'd think there OK some of their cars are really clean (Well on the outside at least). Btw E180 st 142's have an higher MDBF than the line's R62A's so actually E180th st barn is better. Also NYCT doesn't clean the cars during the winter months because ice can build up and cause unsafe condidtions for T/O's who have to do put-ins. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MattTrain Posted March 5, 2009 Share #4 Posted March 5, 2009 Generally speaking, the East 180 Street Yard does a good job cleaning the R142 cars, as well as the R142 and R142A cars in the Jerome Avenue Yard. The yard the is stored, not so much, people tell me those cars from the Westchester Yard are really not that good of a condition. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kngmn Posted March 5, 2009 Share #5 Posted March 5, 2009 so what do you think about 239 street yrd of doing. are they taking caring of their of R142. i spotted r142A sometimes: Unionport yard East 180 street yrd 207 street overhaulshop 239 street yard i believe R142A are good in condition R142A on line go to many train storage yrd that what you talking about Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kngmn Posted March 5, 2009 Share #6 Posted March 5, 2009 in 1998 - 2003 i use to see; R62's that use to run on line. i think get car inspection form westchester yard last month i saw R142 of , get car inpesction from westchester yard. isnt R142 , of , get car washed at Westchetser yrd. i usually see R142A of stored at unionport yard. get car washed at unionport yard/ east 180 street yrd or 207 street overhaul shop Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
7LineFan Posted March 5, 2009 Share #7 Posted March 5, 2009 Generally speaking, the East 180 Street Yard does a good job cleaning the R142 cars, as well as the R142 and R142A cars in the Jerome Avenue Yard. The yard the is stored, not so much, people tell me those cars from the Westchester Yard are really not that good of a condition. Heh, yeah. I was at 86th on the Lex express today, and several R142As upstairs on the were screeching into the station as loudly as R32s. The R142As on the were fine. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOB2RTO Posted March 5, 2009 Share #8 Posted March 5, 2009 Operators don't worry about dirt, etc..., unless it's in our cab. With operating trains, for me the yard (240yd), does the best job. Livonia/New Lots , is the worst....... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
SubwayGuy Posted March 5, 2009 Share #9 Posted March 5, 2009 Generally speaking, the East 180 Street Yard does a good job cleaning the R142 cars, as well as the R142 and R142A cars in the Jerome Avenue Yard. The yard the is stored, not so much, people tell me those cars from the Westchester Yard are really not that good of a condition. I've actually met the supt up there at E180 once (he probably wouldn't remember though), but trust me he really does care about those cars...they do a good job with them Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RokuSix Posted March 5, 2009 Share #10 Posted March 5, 2009 The R142A's from Westchester do tend to make odd breaking noises, but from what I've seen, they get fixed quickly. Also, winter is a bad time to judge car cleanliness---they can't scrub them down at the moment. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
metsfan Posted March 6, 2009 Share #11 Posted March 6, 2009 I gotta say something in defense of those folks that you claim are doing a poor job. Have you ever been to hoboken terminal in NJ? If not, perhaps the next time there's a snow storm you could head over there and see what the trains look like. They are FILTHY in winter. They don't risk ice forming in bad places from the car washer. Most they will do is take a mop to the windows. Even amtrak does this, and you can tell the difference. On the inside, same deal, just not worth cleaning a car 100% squeaky clean. The salt and muck builds up too much to do a very very thorough cleaning of all surfaces, however they don't get too bad. In summer, i often get trains fresh from the car washer with water still dripping off them and totally grime-free floors. I am not sure how many car washers (NJT) has, but you can't expect a trenton turned train to be totally clean when the car washer & cleaning crew is up at the MMC. I belive cleaning crews ARE located at morisville yard however, so trains that go there before being turned are obviously going to have a cleaner interior than ones turned right at trenton. :cool: - A Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kngmn Posted March 6, 2009 Share #12 Posted March 6, 2009 what is most problem with subway maintence yard on westchester yrd.? there is no problem with westchester yard. they are taking care of R142A properly. 1. do you miss R62A use to run on line. If so. that mean you want to see R62A come back to line. because westchester yrd take care of r62A properly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
kngmn Posted March 6, 2009 Share #13 Posted March 6, 2009 it will better ( i saying for nor reason) that R142 bench seat be put on R62A #2020 , #2154 , #1939 , #2101 R142 bench that or if be put on R62A. will remind of R142 cars. 7 line could use some R142 bench seat on #2020 , #2154 , #1939 , #2101 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted March 6, 2009 Share #14 Posted March 6, 2009 it will better ( i saying for nor reason)that R142 bench seat be put on R62A #2020 , #2154 , #1939 , #2101 R142 bench that or if be put on R62A. will remind of R142 cars. 7 line could use some R142 bench seat on #2020 , #2154 , #1939 , #2101 Severely off-topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DOB2RTO Posted March 7, 2009 Share #15 Posted March 7, 2009 what is most problem with subway maintence yard on westchester yrd.?there is no problem with westchester yard. they are taking care of R142A properly. 1. do you miss R62A use to run on line. If so. that mean you want to see R62A come back to line. because westchester yrd take care of r62A properly. They are coming baaaaack........ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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