S78 via Hylan Posted March 27, 2009 Share #26 Posted March 27, 2009 I'm pretty sure they can be four car linked sets, but they usually swap the single/double car sets often. I guess they swap them because they have to take cars in and out of service frequently. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted March 28, 2009 Share #27 Posted March 28, 2009 In the AM rush trains till about 8 30 start running express after new dorp to the ferry term. and theres about 4 express morning trains from the ferry term. now that there first stop is new dorp, at PM rush the trains from the ferry make there first stop at great kills. and for those who dont know at night after 10 30ish trains go into 2 car sets. and when trains r in 5 sets for sum reason the conducter postion is usually in tha third car idk why tho Ah, interesting. Isn't it common practice for the conductor to key a door open at the last car for certain stations? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostnyc123 Posted March 28, 2009 Share #28 Posted March 28, 2009 Ah, interesting. Isn't it common practice for the conductor to key a door open at the last car for certain stations? yeh at atlantic station, cause the station can only fit one car.the conducter comes out and opens tha last door, right by tha cab. At richmond valley this was done for awhile while they were wrking on tha platform, its been awhile since ive been there but im sure its al done by now. Another weird thing is on the st. george bound side at Clifton only the first 3 cars can open cause the last cars Gap is way to big. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted March 28, 2009 Share #29 Posted March 28, 2009 yeh at atlantic station, cause the station can only fit one car.the conducter comes out and opens tha last door, right by tha cab. At richmond valley this was done for awhile while they were wrking on tha platform, its been awhile since ive been there but im sure its al done by now. Another weird thing is on the st. george bound side at Clifton only the first 3 cars can open cause the last cars Gap is way to big. So if this is practised on the last car, how will that affect 5 car trains? Being that the C/R is in the middle? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted March 31, 2009 Share #30 Posted March 31, 2009 Most 5 car SIRTS are all A-cars, so the operator closes the last two then the three in front. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted March 31, 2009 Share #31 Posted March 31, 2009 Most 5 car SIRTS are all A-cars, so the operator closes the last two then the three in front. I see... Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostnyc123 Posted March 31, 2009 Share #32 Posted March 31, 2009 Wirelessly posted (Mozilla/5.0 (iPod; U; CPU iPhone OS 2_2_1 like Mac OS X; en-us) AppleWebKit/525.18.1 (KHTML, like Gecko) Version/3.1.1 Mobile/5H11a Safari/525.20) So if this is practised on the last car, how will that affect 5 car trains? Being that the C/R is in the middle? At Atlantic I'm not surre have yet to see that but 5 car sets Are only run for morning express. So Clifton would be skipped so they wouldent have a proble with that Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted March 31, 2009 Share #33 Posted March 31, 2009 Sometimes they do local service to Tottenville during the AM rush also. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlushingExpress Posted March 31, 2009 Share #34 Posted March 31, 2009 So if this is practised on the last car, how will that affect 5 car trains? Being that the C/R is in the middle? i thought conductors on the SIR were at the rear like the Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Brighton Local Posted March 31, 2009 Share #35 Posted March 31, 2009 i thought conductors on the SIR were at the rear like the Thats as far as I know. Im riding SIR for over 20 years now, and the C/R has always been in the last car, whether the train was 2,4 or 5 cars in length. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted March 31, 2009 Share #36 Posted March 31, 2009 i thought conductors on the SIR were at the rear like the Well Ghostnyc said it, not me. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted March 31, 2009 Share #37 Posted March 31, 2009 i thought conductors on the SIR were at the rear like the When the SIR uses 4 car which is pretty much all the time, then the conductor is at the rear. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
FlushingExpress Posted April 1, 2009 Share #38 Posted April 1, 2009 Thats as far as I know. Im riding SIR for over 20 years now, and the C/R has always been in the last car, whether the train was 2,4 or 5 cars in length. i do not think a conductor would be necessary in a two-car train. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostnyc123 Posted April 1, 2009 Share #39 Posted April 1, 2009 Thats as far as I know. Im riding SIR for over 20 years now, and the C/R has always been in the last car, whether the train was 2,4 or 5 cars in length. 95% of tha 5 car trains ive taken in tha morning tha c/r is in tha 3rd or 4th car depending how the train is linked up. reason i have no idea. will ask tho wen i can cause ive been curious for yrs why that is. but again i say 95% cause 2 weeks ago i saw a 5 car set that c/r was in the last Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted April 1, 2009 Share #40 Posted April 1, 2009 Well, when the 5-car SIRTs are all A-cars, I think the conductor can be in any car, I could be wrong though. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted April 4, 2009 Share #41 Posted April 4, 2009 I think all of the R44-SIRTs don't need to be single units. Here's how I think they can be placed (ABBA): 388-389-391-390 392-393-395-394 396-397-399-398 400-401-403-402 404-405-407-406 408-409-411-410 412-413-415-414 416-417-419-418 420-421-423-422 424-425-427-426 428-429-431-430 432-433-435-434 436-438-440-442 444-446-448-450 452-454-456-458 460-462-464-466 Please comment. Why spend the money to remove the couplers and replace then with draw bars? It's a waste of money that the says they don't have and not linking them means that maintaining the cars is easier since they can be cut. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostnyc123 Posted April 7, 2009 Share #42 Posted April 7, 2009 Why spend the money to remove the couplers and replace then with draw bars? It's a waste of money that the says they don't have and not linking them means that maintaining the cars is easier since they can be cut. i totally agree, THa SIR is one of the MTA biggest expense, single units not neccesary its fine the way it is, honestly it not like they have alot to wrk with here, how bout trash these crappy cars and give us sumthing else ill take a R68 or a R46 even but sumthing but for now we must deal with this FRA resrictions Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
INDman Posted April 7, 2009 Share #43 Posted April 7, 2009 I don't think SIR should get any NYCT subway cars. At present, giving them cars would take away cars from service. New cars should be ordered, maybe a stripped down R160 because there is no need for a FIND. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Y2Julio Posted April 7, 2009 Share #44 Posted April 7, 2009 Sure the MTA can add more cars once the rest of New York stops subsidizing the cost of running the SIRR. They need to start charging at all stations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted April 7, 2009 Share #45 Posted April 7, 2009 Sure the MTA can add more cars once the rest of New York stops subsidizing the cost of running the SIRR. They need to start charging at all stations. I agree. There is no point point having fare collection only at St. George and Tompkinsville. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted April 7, 2009 Share #46 Posted April 7, 2009 Sure the MTA can add more cars once the rest of New York stops subsidizing the cost of running the SIRR. They need to start charging at all stations. IMO, the SIR shouldn't be running more cars. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
S78 via Hylan Posted April 8, 2009 Share #47 Posted April 8, 2009 But my point is,that it would be nice if the (SIR) got someting new. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted April 8, 2009 Share #48 Posted April 8, 2009 But my point is,that it would be nice if the (SIR) got someting new. They should be. The SIR will get the R179s when they are built. SIR fleet history is fascinating itself. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ghostnyc123 Posted April 13, 2009 Share #49 Posted April 13, 2009 im sorry to say it tho but i dont think the SIR 44s are gunna make it to the 179s, there not in good shape, a mod 68, a 160 sumthing just to get it by i know it will never happen but dammit, lol cause giving a train blue seats and black floors doesent help the train get by another 5 yrs, considering its already been 100 yrs theve been in service lol, but like today the car #456 the right side door in the front by the Cab wouldent open, the train sounded like it was gunna blow up, it had to put put as i call it out of great kills,but the floors and seats looked very spiffy, these cars are done, u cant even hear urself think wen u ride that train, i LOVE SIR but we need sumthing to get us by. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
MTR Admiralty Posted April 13, 2009 Share #50 Posted April 13, 2009 im sorry to say it tho but i dont think the SIR 44s are gunna make it to the 179s, there not in good shape, a mod 68, a 160 sumthing just to get it by i know it will never happen but dammit, lol cause giving a train blue seats and black floors doesent help the train get by another 5 yrs, considering its already been 100 yrs theve been in service lol, but like today the car #456 the right side door in the front by the Cab wouldent open, the train sounded like it was gunna blow up, it had to put put as i call it out of great kills,but the floors and seats looked very spiffy, these cars are done, u cant even hear urself think wen u ride that train, i LOVE SIR but we need sumthing to get us by. Yeah but those cars that you are recommending must be converted for SIR use. For example it must be converted such that it follows FRA regulations. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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