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If you send both the and to 125 St, what's going to serve Astoria? If you're thinking the , it's pretty clear that the alone can't handle Astoria ridership.

Gorgor, no need to make attacks like that. But yes, Wallyhorse's idea was really stupid.

No, that's not NEARLY enough service!!! In addition: Special green trains run from Times Sq to Grand Central via the 42 St Shuttle tracks, go down to 33 St, turn around, go uptown via Lexington Av local to 59 St and terminate there Some trains run via the from Broadway Jct to Essex St, then via 6 Av Local/63 St and Queens Blvd Express to Jamaica-179 St switches directions at Queens Plaza and continues through the 60 St tube, down Broadway, and via 4 Av Express/Sea Beach to Coney Island Rockaway Shuttle extended to Forest Hills-71 Av via Fulton St Express/6 Av Local/QBL Local

Really? I'd prefer to just run the via 63 St.

Okay, well forget the express idea, and the restoration. And, if you want, the can run via Brighton Local to Coney Island, and the can go express to Brighton Beach.

Pretty simple: skips 34 St.

Here's another crazy "fantasy" proposal that I thought of: (Please don't use the term "foamer" even though you may feel so inclined. I don't have my heart set on this; I just want to have a civilized discussion) runs via Nassau St, Montague St tunnel, and Brighton Express to Brighton Beach runs via Chrystie St Cut, 6 Av express (new switches added; directly connects Essex St with 6 Av express tracks), CPW local to 145 St eliminated And, potentially: Brown runs via Nassau St returns and runs via Culver Local to Church Av runs express to Church Av Pretty crazy, eh?

Okay, sorry.

That's fine. It's perfectly okay to put it in the random thoughts thread, but since I created the speed thread, I decided to use it. Speaking of the 4 Av express, it's one of the fastest runs in the system when there are no trains ahead of you, but the and seem to bunch a lot, so it can get slowed down.

The won't be around for a LONG time, and there's no guarantee that the whole SAS (Hanover Sq-125 St) will ever get constructed. Therefore, we don't know ANYTHING about what cars it will use.

Check this thread: http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/35569-the-official-speed-thread/page__st__240?do=findComment&comment=562508

From the Subway Random Thoughts thread: Manhattan-bound R160s can reach up to 50 MPH in that section. Coney Island-bound is slower; it's 43 MPH. With R68s, 47 MPH is the maximum Manhattan-bound, and 40 MPH Coney Island-bound.

Well, please read the introduction to the thread before posting. This thread is about fictional scenarios and how people would solve them. Dude, you should listen to what people say...There's no rule against telling people not to post things that don't fit in the thread. Just because it doesn't come from a mod doesn't mean it isn't valid. You most certainly do, if he's right and you're wrong. No need to get so upset at him; he wasn't disrespecting you. There already is a thread for that:http://www.nyctransitforums.com/forums/topic/34484-unplanned-subway-service-changes-discussion/page__st__220 You weren't mean, and you didn't do ANYTHING wrong. RollOverMyHead didn't read the thread before he posted, so it's not your fault for telling him what not to post. He needs to calm down and stop taking this personally. Anyway, back to the thread... Three words for you: single-track shuttle.

I don't know if I agree with that. I don't think the purpose is to keep people from getting on the on Eastern Parkway; those riders have pretty good service and would likely keep riding the even when the SAS opens. Rather than trying to duplicate the in Brooklyn, I think it's more beneficial to reduce transfers to the at crowded places such as Atlantic Av and Fulton St. That's why I think the should run via the BMT. It's better to create new route patterns (2 Av - South Brooklyn) rather than trying to create an IND-style competitor to the (2 Av - Fulton St). The SAS needs to create a new and unique route to draw people away from the . If it doesn't, few riders will switch over to it.

Same problem with switching at West 4 St, which would hold up the , , , and trains. And, switching at Jay St eliminates the switching at Canal St.

In that case, I don't think sending the down Culver is going to help much. I doubt that Culver riders are adding much crowding to the Lexington Line. Sending it onto the BMT would be better.

No, the would run via the to Jay St, and then via Fulton Local. Guys, I know it's a radical proposal. I'm not going to try to convince everyone that it's good... Why not?????

How would it clog 8 Av? The only problem I can think of is that having the Brighton Express run via the tunnel would cancel out the time savings of the express run. The benefit, though, is that fewer people will have to transfer to the IRT at Atlantic Av, which would save time.

125 St - Hanover Square hardly seems like a shuttle. Not every Manhattan rider is going to/from the outer boroughs, and there will (hopefully) be convenient transfers to other lines that go to them. Fine, call me a foamer...Here's my crazy proposal: to Brighton Beach via Nassau St and Brighton Express via Fulton Local to Euclid Av terminates at WTC

Gee, can't you just terminate the at 57 St/6 Av?

The train is starting to slow down during the video, but I got 47 MPH for the beginning .

NEXT: the Broadway Line tracks on the Manhattan Bridge are unusable, and ONLY the middle track at Whitehall St is usable.

That's an interesting idea. So, riders would transfer to the at Canal St if they wanted to go to Brooklyn?

I checked the map, and a train would have to dump and turn around FIVE times to relay at Lafayette Av. BAD IDEA.